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He was doing that for Chubb quite a bit the year prior. Obviously not a fan of the actions that got him here, but I love on-field Kareem. He's got so much skill but runs so violently.


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Nick Chubb Contract Breakdown:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/nick-chubb-25134/

2023 might be an interesting year for the contract, IMO. Cap hit will increase from $5.2M in 2022 to a whopping $14.8M with zero dead cap money if released. That's pretty high for an RB. Then, $16.2M in 2024, again with a zero dead cap hit if released.

Perhaps a possible restructure based on anyone we extend and their cap hit that given year.


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If the Browns draft a stud runningback, perhaps out of South Carolina, named Kevin Harris, who showed abilities to take over, how would that effect the 2023 year, and chances of keeping Chubb.

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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Nick Chubb Contract Breakdown:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/nick-chubb-25134/

2023 might be an interesting year for the contract, IMO. Cap hit will increase from $5.2M in 2022 to a whopping $14.8M with zero dead cap money if released. That's pretty high for an RB. Then, $16.2M in 2024, again with a zero dead cap hit if released.

Perhaps a possible restructure based on anyone we extend and their cap hit that given year.


Side note: Myles Garrett cap hit in 2023.....$29M. Up from $13M the previous year.


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Nick Chubb Contract Breakdown:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/nick-chubb-25134/

2023 might be an interesting year for the contract, IMO. Cap hit will increase from $5.2M in 2022 to a whopping $14.8M with zero dead cap money if released. That's pretty high for an RB. Then, $16.2M in 2024, again with a zero dead cap hit if released.

Perhaps a possible restructure based on anyone we extend and their cap hit that given year.


Side note: Myles Garrett cap hit in 2023.....$29M. Up from $13M the previous year.


Oh dang... good catch.

I think this could emphasize the FO's approach to RBs about to hit a certain age?


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Nick Chubb Contract Breakdown:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/nick-chubb-25134/

2023 might be an interesting year for the contract, IMO. Cap hit will increase from $5.2M in 2022 to a whopping $14.8M with zero dead cap money if released. That's pretty high for an RB. Then, $16.2M in 2024, again with a zero dead cap hit if released.

Perhaps a possible restructure based on anyone we extend and their cap hit that given year.


Side note: Myles Garrett cap hit in 2023.....$29M. Up from $13M the previous year.


Oh dang... good catch.

I think this could emphasize the FO's approach to RBs about to hit a certain age?


And it would be curious to see what the 2023 year would look like for the potential contracts of Mayfield, Ward, Teller, in addition to any FA contracts as well.

Of course the cap ceiling will be higher than what it is now, but these are guys that will be expensive if we extend them. We already know Myles will be at the current structure.


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It could also be them banking on the cap going bananas in coming years. If that's the assumption, then giving some of these guys big money might actually look really shrewd in a year or two.


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So with Chubb & Garrett going way up in 2023, and that will be the first year of Baker's new contract, as well...yikes! By 2023, the middle of our OL is also probably gone, too. Teller unlikely to stay in 2022, Both Tretter and Bitonio are FA in 2023 at the age of 32...at that age, and with other $ committments, they're gone.

I hadn't realized until now, but 2023 is shaping up to be a rebuild year.

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That's why you draft at least 1 OL per draft; Forbes, Harris, Hudson could be the replacements you're talking about.


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That's why you draft at least 1 OL per draft; Forbes, Harris, Hudson could be the replacements you're talking about.


Or any lineman we might decide to draft early in 2022 and 2023.


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I doubt they would move Hudson to RG, but I take your point. That's how teams stay competitive. But even if you get these guys right, replacing the entire interior of the line in 2 seasons is not going to be a seamless transition.

And honestly, the last time we saw Nick Harris play, he looked too easily bullied by DTs. Has Forbes ever played a snap? Drafting a C or G in the 20's next spring would be unsurprising.

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Why wouldn’t Teller just be franchised after this season?

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Why pay franchise money for a RG in a system where we should be able to train up a new RG and at least be good? Remember, until Teller surprised everyone, we had Drew Forbes slated to own that spot, and Forbes is back.

Yes, Teller is exceptional, and what this FO saw in him is why they traded for him, but they saw the traits they coveted in him at a time when they weren't realized and the Bills were fine with trading him and a 7th for a 5th.

If Teller leaves in Free Agency, he will net us a 3rd as a Compensatory. If he stays at an affordable and reasonable price, we win. If he leaves, this FO already knows exactly the traits they are looking for in a player to replace him.

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Cleveland Browns running back Nick Chubb has spent his first three seasons showing everyone that running backs can still matter in the NFL.

His fellow players have clearly been paying attention as Chubb came in at No. 26 on the NFL’s list of the game’s Top 100 players heading into the 2021 season.

According to the rankings at NFL.com:

Chubb turned in consecutive 1,000-yard seasons for the first time in Cleveland since Jamal Lewis (2007-08), and the 25-year-old did it in only 12 games (1,067 rushing yards) while logging a career-high 12 rushing TDs. An ideal mixture of speed and power, Chubb’s knack for breaking tackles wears down defenses and opens up passing attacks. In Year 3, he contributed greatly to a franchise-cleansing season for the Browns, who scratched and clawed their way to their first playoff berth in 18 years and went on to their first playoff victory in 26 years by virtue of Chubb’s 40-yard TD reception versus the Steelers.

A second-round selection in the 2018 NFL Draft out of Georgia, Chubb has earned two trips to the Pro Bowl while rushing for 3,557 yards and 28 touchdowns in three seasons. His 1,494 rushing yards in 2019 were the most in franchise history for a running back not named Jim Brown, and his 12 rushing touchdowns last season have only been exceeded by Brown and Leroy Kelly in franchise history.

According to clevelandbrowns.com, Chubb’s average of 5.23 yards per carry is tops among running backs with a minimum of 300 carries in the past three seasons. He also leads the league during that time with 34 runs of more than 20 yards, is second with 17 100-yard rushing games, tied for second with 101 runs of more than 10 yards, tied for second with seven runs of more than 50 yards, is third in rushing yards and sixth with 28 rushing touchdowns.

Chubb is the third member of the Browns to be named to this year’s list, joining wide receiver Jarvis Landry (No. 94) and quarterback Baker Mayfield (No. 71).

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2021/8/22/...fl-top-100-list

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I believe that part of why Chubb is consistently underrated is that he doesn't draw attention to himself. Year after year, he is among the best RB in the business and there is nobody who gets more yards after contact.

I don't mind. I like that he doesn't get the attention, just like I like that Baker has so many detractors. They are each motivated by the lack of respect.


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I don’t know if he’s all that under-rated - he does get a lot of props from the local and national media, but I get your point.

That said, he doesn’t seem to want a lot of attention, he doesn’t showboat after a TD.

But I believe that most paid pundits, fans and those ‘in the know’, see him as a Top 3 back.

Maybe top one.


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Hilarious thing is when NFL micd up put a mic on him...

All all they got was silence. Dude just doesn't say much. Just runs people over

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Lots of grunting and other people congratulating him.


I occasionally watch those because I think they're great. There was one that would've been right around the time that Hunt was making his debut for us and he was talking about Chubb like "this dude just doesn't say anything". Someone else explained it kinda like "he's just like that, don't worry". I'm paraphrasing but it was hilarious to hear.


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Chubb may not say much but he has a fire burning in him never doubt that and when guys disrespect him on the field he does respond but he does it quietly watch him closely he is very intense.

In the KC game last year in the second half of that game he came out and was NOT going to be denied and guess what? He wasn't ! Oh there is a fire in that man and it is explosive. I love the guy more so then any player I can remember he takes out his desire on the other team and then walks back lines up and does it all over again.


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The proof is in the pudding. Chubb's got lotsa pudding.


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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg


When God designed a running back, He designed Nick Chubb.


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I suppose the big difference is that Lamar takes a lot less punishment than Chubb in terms of the running styles. He did start to get a little bolder against the Chiefs, though, in terms of contact.

I guess we'll see. All it really takes is one hit to go the wrong way.


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6.8 ypc....unreal. Anyone know if Nick is averaging over 10 ypc in the 4th quarter like he did for all of last year?

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6.8 ypc....unreal. Anyone know if Nick is averaging over 10 ypc in the 4th quarter like he did for all of last year?

KC: 2, 6, 7, 6, 2, -2
HOU: 14, 26

8 for 61 = 7.62


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