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How did all of those poor Haitians get to the Mexican/US border?



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THANKS Y’All

It’s really sad in every area … and everyone of them are self inflicted wounds …

- lets start with the dead heroes cause of the dumbest military move ever …
- hundreds of Americans left behind …
- we hosed all our allies with that withdrawal
- we hosed all the afghans that helped us …

- the border … and its going to get worse …

That POC red head Psaki lies almost as much as joKe … she said a few days ago the illegals don’t get tested and don’t need shots cause there not going to be here for to long … how does she say that with a straight face … she has no conscience what so ever just like the intellectually dishonest on here …

She said today that if the illegal women say their pregnant thats good enough for them, no test needed, come on in … cause u know no women has ever lied about that ..

I’m tired … i gotta go to bed … I’ll be back this weekend to cover more of the blatant lies ans self inflicted crisis the senile one’s admin has created …

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How did all of those poor Haitians get to the Mexican/US border?



Soros or some other communist operative for the Dems probably shipped them over on boats.


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Soros or some other communist operative for the Dems probably shipped them over on boats.


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How did all of those poor Haitians get to the Mexican/US border?



Soros or some other communist operative for the Dems probably shipped them over on boats.



Sounding like you’ve got inside info. Using boats and stuff. I think you might be a communist insider…


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Portland, mg, pit: How DID the Haitians get to mexico, to illegally enter our country?

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The communists think it was Soros.

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I don't care about the communists.

How did this terribly poor Haitians make it to Mexico to walk across the border?

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Well the only speculation I've seen is a communist claiming it was soros.

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Cool.

How did these terribly poor Haitians get to Mexico? That's the question that apparently no one can answer.

It's 1974 miles by sea.

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Think I saw an article that said mostly they migrated country to country since the 2010 earthquake and some from recent events on the island. They struggled to get work visas in Mexico and other countries.

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Correct.
Most lived in South and Central America before heading through Mexico.

A good number of those being sent to Haiti haven't lived there in a decade.


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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
Correct.
Most lived in South and Central America before heading through Mexico.

A good number of those being sent to Haiti haven't lived there in a decade.



Yep. The Haitians have been in South America and Mexico for quite some time, as you noted, a decade or more.

https://apnews.com/article/technology-me...5b786d2d800f3ce

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...der/8419170002/

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Cool.

How did these terribly poor Haitians get to Mexico? That's the question that apparently no one can answer.

It's 1974 miles by sea.


Here is a good read that might answer some of your questions.

What makes the story compelling for me, is that it describes the archetypal migrant/refugee situation. It's not just Haitians. Almost everyone trying to get here have fled life-threatening circumstances: Narco-terrorism, corrupt governments, ethnic oppression, natural disasters, etc. All are desperate, all are desperately poor, all are fleeing toward 'something better.' Think of it this way:

When you remember stories about 'coyotes' leading folks through Mexico, you get the idea. 'Coyotes' are everywhere, not just in the Mexico desert. They exist wherever there is a need for desperate people to flee their circumstances. Supply and demand. Capitalism in its most raw form.

The US is not unique, in the way we struggle with immigration/refugee issues. Every corner of the globe is experiencing refugee migration all the time. All Humans flee when they can no longer safely stay where they are... and all governments wring their hands, regarding what to do about it.

But I digress.
My answer you your question of how desperately poor people find their ways off an island:

Cargo planes, most likely.
Shady money exchanges.
Maxed-out money resources.
Some families have to leave some fam behind.
Risk at every stage of the process.

If you're an overland migrant, we might be talking semi trailers/freight train containers.

But Their Family is safer on the run than the s# they are running from.

Simple math.
Human survival.

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your guy:

traitor
trump fraud university
draft dodger
tax cheat
insurrectionest leader
*ussy grabber
porn star lover


An American president who took the word of Putin over his own intelligence agencies.

And let's not forget:

The leader who lied to Americans about a deadly virus.
Failed his "oath of office to protect the citizens of America. He chose to lie rather than telling them how to protect themselves. The result 400k of your fellow Americans dead.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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You wouldn't be if he had gotten away with pulling off overturning the election like he tried to do.


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Biden with half his sense is better than trump with what little sense he has.

The difference is intent and dignity.

DIGNITY. Something that trump has none of.

INTENT. trump's intent is to gain power and feed his greed through corruption.

Biden at least has good intent for the country. Right or wrong he is better than trump could ever be.

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Biden with half his sense is better than trump with what little sense he has.

The difference is intent and dignity.

DIGNITY. Something that trump has none of.

INTENT. trump's intent is to gain power and feed his greed through corruption.

Biden at least has good intent for the country. Right or wrong he is better than trump could ever be.


Biden admin just admitted letting loose all those Illegals into America.This after lying that they were sent back.But it looks good under the bridge now. Thanks y'all

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Your are welcome.

I would take an amoeba over trump.

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Your are welcome.

I would take an amoeba over trump.



You did.

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Yes and I am happy.

See I am not a democrat or republican. They are both corrupt.

I vote for the person who is better than the others. I don't care what party they are. It is more like who is the best of the bad usually.

trump is bad. Period. On any level you want to look at.

He has zero qualities. None.

I have seen presidents come and go. None were perfect.

trump is worse than anyone who has ever run for the office at least from those I know.

So, really I don't care what you say about Biden. Rolls off my back like water off a duck.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Portland, mg, pit: How DID the Haitians get to mexico, to illegally enter our country?


Arch/Peen - almost all of them came from Chile/Brazil and other South American countries … some left Haiti 10 years ago …

Witch actually makes it worse …. They were all ready refugees and had lives in other countries witch means they had no right by law to come here according to International refugee laws … they tore there docs up in Mexico before crossing the border, that actually came back to bite the few who were deported in the ass …

The few they have sent back to Haiti were sent to a country that some of them hadn’t been in for 10 years and almost all of them hadn’t been there for the last 3 or 4 years … its comical what this admin is doing but it don’t matter one little bit to the INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST MOB … not one iota of concern to them cause it doesn’t affect them …

Let it affect there lives, let the INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST MOB lose a son or daughter or spouse to a drunk driving illegal and there irreverence for the rest of us would change in a NY second …. But as long as there lives aren’t affected and there’s no more mean tweets … they could care less …

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rofl

The same guy who never said a word about illegals the entire time Trump was president.

And BTW- Nobody "turned them loose". Those who managed to qualify have been given dates to appear for hearings concerning asylum. You know, the law?

But then since Trump was elected the law never concerned any of you.

And before the faux outrage crowd goes into another false rant.....

FACT CHECK: Asylum Seekers Regularly Attend Immigration Court Hearings

https://www.humanrightsfirst.org/resourc...-court-hearings


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We are talking about your guy.


They can’t talk about THIER GUY … he’s literally done nothing right … and the ironic part … he lies way more than Trump ever did and it’s not even close …

Every word out of his mouth about Afghanistan, the border and the vaccines has been a lie … almost EVERY WORD!

What are the INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST going to hang there hats on …

- the 13 heroes that sacrificed there lives cause of a 100% unforced error by THEIR GUY …

- the hundred + Americans left behind by THEIR GUY …

- over 200k a month crossing illegals cause of THEIR GUY tossing out everything the mean tweeter did and invitin illegals here during his campaign …

- ALL THE LIES on every issue …

THANKS Y’All

We haven’t even got to:

- Hunter … that’s like a 5 sided coin with the worst one being what’s going on with China … this is actually real and they own joKe as opposed to RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA witch was a crock of crap on it’s best day …

- Inflation

- the fact were no longer energy independent and joKe is begging the OPEC countries to increase oil production …

- one of the 5 sided coins Hunter is, his art … they say it belongs on refrigerators yet they say some of it will sell for 500 - 750k … gee i wonder why … but the INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST MOB will be defendIng it and crapping all over me for STATING FACTS that are 100% true!!!!

We’ve only just begun with Biden’s complete and utter incompetence …

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Oh please save us.

The immigrants are coming. Oh the pain.

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[quote=PitDAWG] rofl [/quot

Pit, I can't tell you how sick I'm of you and that stupid emoji. I wish somebody would shove that emoji up your....nose.

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[quote=PitDAWG] rofl [/quot

Pit, I can't tell you how sick I'm of you and that stupid emoji. I wish somebody would shove that emoji up your....nose.


rofl

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Anything Hunter is just laughable.

It reminds me of Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.

If the shoe was on the other foot with Eric or Don Jr.

I am a business person, it is what I do.


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Thanks. haven't been ignoring this, just, no time to post, really.

Went to bed friday early so we could go to the Michigan game, got home late enough, then had to prepare (food wise, etc) for the Browns game today. Got up at 5, left at 6, got home about 8:45 or so.

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Cool.

How did these terribly poor Haitians get to Mexico? That's the question that apparently no one can answer.

It's 1974 miles by sea.


Here is a good read that might answer some of your questions.

What makes the story compelling for me, is that it describes the archetypal migrant/refugee situation. It's not just Haitians. Almost everyone trying to get here have fled life-threatening circumstances: Narco-terrorism, corrupt governments, ethnic oppression, natural disasters, etc. All are desperate, all are desperately poor, all are fleeing toward 'something better.' Think of it this way:

When you remember stories about 'coyotes' leading folks through Mexico, you get the idea. 'Coyotes' are everywhere, not just in the Mexico desert. They exist wherever there is a need for desperate people to flee their circumstances. Supply and demand. Capitalism in its most raw form.

The US is not unique, in the way we struggle with immigration/refugee issues. Every corner of the globe is experiencing refugee migration all the time. All Humans flee when they can no longer safely stay where they are... and all governments wring their hands, regarding what to do about it.

But I digress.
My answer you your question of how desperately poor people find their ways off an island:

Cargo planes, most likely.
Shady money exchanges.
Maxed-out money resources.
Some families have to leave some fam behind.
Risk at every stage of the process.

If you're an overland migrant, we might be talking semi trailers/freight train containers.

But Their Family is safer on the run than the s# they are running from.

Simple math.
Human survival.

________________


I don't have answers to the border crisis or immigration policy at all. What I do know is this: the story you are about to read describes the lion's share of the people wanting in. Most of them just want a way out. "US is best, but I'll also settle for better..."





Thanks for that. Now, for me that opens up the question as to why this large, non Hispanic group suddenly gathered at the US/Mexico border points of entry at the same time? Something must have happened to make them think that this is their best chance to get into the US. Do they think the current administration is more sensitive to their plight and will provide easy entry? or is there another explanation?


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Pit, I can't tell you how sick I'm of you and that stupid emoji. I wish somebody would shove that emoji up your....nose.


Posting something of substance would get an actual response. Until then this is what you'll get. You certainly lack the ability to shove anything anywhere so you will just have to deal with it.


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Your are welcome.

I would take an amoeba over trump.


Congrats, you were successful.


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Cool.

How did these terribly poor Haitians get to Mexico? That's the question that apparently no one can answer.

It's 1974 miles by sea.


Here is a good read that might answer some of your questions.

What makes the story compelling for me, is that it describes the archetypal migrant/refugee situation. It's not just Haitians. Almost everyone trying to get here have fled life-threatening circumstances: Narco-terrorism, corrupt governments, ethnic oppression, natural disasters, etc. All are desperate, all are desperately poor, all are fleeing toward 'something better.' Think of it this way:

When you remember stories about 'coyotes' leading folks through Mexico, you get the idea. 'Coyotes' are everywhere, not just in the Mexico desert. They exist wherever there is a need for desperate people to flee their circumstances. Supply and demand. Capitalism in its most raw form.

The US is not unique, in the way we struggle with immigration/refugee issues. Every corner of the globe is experiencing refugee migration all the time. All Humans flee when they can no longer safely stay where they are... and all governments wring their hands, regarding what to do about it.

But I digress.
My answer you your question of how desperately poor people find their ways off an island:

Cargo planes, most likely.
Shady money exchanges.
Maxed-out money resources.
Some families have to leave some fam behind.
Risk at every stage of the process.

If you're an overland migrant, we might be talking semi trailers/freight train containers.

But Their Family is safer on the run than the s# they are running from.

Simple math.
Human survival.

________________


I don't have answers to the border crisis or immigration policy at all. What I do know is this: the story you are about to read describes the lion's share of the people wanting in. Most of them just want a way out. "US is best, but I'll also settle for better..."





Thanks for that. Now, for me that opens up the question as to why this large, non Hispanic group suddenly gathered at the US/Mexico border points of entry at the same time? Something must have happened to make them think that this is their best chance to get into the US. Do they think the current administration is more sensitive to their plight and will provide easy entry? or is there another explanation?


Here's an article on the issue...

A confluence of factors caused the sudden sharp increase at the Texas town of about 35,000 residents. Interviews with dozens of Haitian migrants, immigration attorneys and advocates reveal a phenomenon produced partly by confusion over the Biden administration’s policies after authorities recently extended protections for the more than 100,000 Haitians living in the United States.

It also reflects the power of Facebook, YouTube and platforms like WhatsApp, which migrants use to share information that can get distorted as it speeds through immigrant communities, directing migration flows. That’s especially true for tight-knit groups like the Creole-and-French-speaking Haitians, many of whom left their homeland after its devastating 2010 earthquake and have been living in Latin America, drawn by Brazil and Chile’s once-booming economies.


In extending protections for Haitians this spring, the Biden administration cited security concerns and social unrest in the Western Hemisphere’s poorest country.

Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said the temporary protections were limited to those residing in the U.S. before July 29 — but that condition was often missing in posts, leading Haitians outside the United States to believe they, too, were eligible.

Mayorkas acknowledged that this week, saying “we are very concerned that Haitians who are taking the irregular migration path are receiving misinformation that the border is open,” or that they qualify for protected status despite the expired deadline.


“I want to make sure it is known that this is not the way to come to the United States,” he said.

Here's the full article:

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-t...3b32704aa961021

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It helps to be appreciated.

trump versus amoeba. the best won


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I think it was triggered by a temporary condition in Haitian immigration policy allowing them to stay due to ? something there. It was in an article when this first started to happen last week. Just can't recall the details.

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