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The Ravens and the Bengals play this week, who do you want to lose an why??

The Bengals win leaves both teams only 1 game ahead of us in the Division, but puts us in either third or tied for last.

The Ravens win leaves us tied with Cincy, possibly Pittsburgh, but puts Ravens two games ahead of us.

Interested in deeper analytics too!

From the standpoint of "just make the playoffs and go from there" standpoint, a Ravens win would serve the Browns better.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2021-nfl-predictions/

I really hate the Bengals, especially living in Bengals country, but it pales in comparison to my utter abhorrence of the Ravens, for obvious reasons. I'm not rooting - but hoping - the Bengals win against the Ravens. The Bengals have that same stigmatic drop-the-ball factor that we have when it comes to the rest of the season. The Ravens don't. I want the Ravens to lose and I want them to lose at almost any opportunity.

If we get healthy, I feel like we should beat the Bengals twice, while I think a split with the Ravens is more likely. For that reason, I'd rather Cinci win this game with Balt, because it would clear a path to the AFCN title for the Browns. If we don't get healthy (Mayfield, Chubb, Hunt, Landry, et al), it doesn't matter either way.

Bengals, no brainer. Puts us closer to the top and ANYTHING that hurts the rats helps us. We can beat the bengals.

I’d like Cincy to win. But I understand how it would help us more if they lose

I don't see it . Bengals winning keeps both teams one game above us so how do you think Ravens winning is better?

Because if the goal is trying to make the playoffs not just the division, percentage-wise knocking Cincy down a peg helps us more in that regard

I'm not sure of your logic because the goal is to be as close to the top as possible.. one game out of first is better than 2.
At the end of season when you can't win the division your logic would hold water but today it doesn't

Go Bengals!

It keeps us within one game of the division lead if the Ravens lose. Yeah, Cinci will be a game up on us if they win on Sunday, but we’ll take care of the Bengals when we play ‘em.

I hope they both lose…
Take care of your own business and you don’t have to worry.

As of today, a bengals win is the more beneficial. And that is based on, the games which already have outcomes that create,
the Ravens are 3-1 vs. the afc west.
the Browns are 1-2 vs. the afc west.
the bengals are 0-0 vs. the afc west.
the steelers are 1-1 vs. the afc west. and all 4 play 4 games total vs the afc west, this year.

If one thinks the afc west is full of good teams that will continue to play well, you want to give losses to the ravens. and the Ravens 3-1 afc west record can no longer be beaten or matched by the browns, but the bengals could still lose all 4.

It also matters if you want to seed the playoffs this week, or at the end of the year, since it's at the end of the year, it's better to push that loss on the ravens. We want to push a bunch of losses onto the ravens.

I'd be satisfied with a tie!

It's in Baltimore, I just found out, reminded its in Baltimore. So!
you have to
really really
honestly, truly!!! consider,

That if the road team is attempting a kick, like a field goal,
and you can watch this, I guaran-dang-te it.

The kick will be up, it will reach height, and when it reaches height, it will be pushed left to right, from the line of scrmmages perspective,
as if hit by a 40 mph cross wind,
which I'm pretty sure they form in that stadium, though not sure how,

But it happened last year against the Browns twice, it happened against the Chargers I think this year.

look for it! It will happen again, believe your own dang eyes. Missed field goal? watch for that 40mph cross wind.

No other ball can change trajectory, so massively, after it's left a kickers foot or even the height where any player could tip it
and be headed right toward the center of the field goal,
and then shift so far off course.

True story, but, don't take my word for it, watch for yourself, believe your own eyes, because I'm pretty sure it will happen again.

Maybe it’s the 5G towers causing it.

Going to need a tin foil hat to watch football around here soon. smh

The key to beating the ravens is almost 100% stop Lamar.

Leveon Bell looks like he's running in mud. Nice sack by old friend Larry Ogunjobi. Jackson taking some hits today.

Like watching Lamar take hits. Would make it my screen saver if I used one.

Burrow taking some shots too. He might not last the season with this o-line.

Bengals up 3-0

So far, we are better than both teams in this game. I though Lamar would roll the Bengals from jump. They are keeping him in check and leading by 3 at the beginning of the second. Why does Lamar play so much better against us?

You have Joe Mixon and you give it to Samaje Perine on 3rd and short?

I wonder if Coach Stef is watching and making a note that Cinci can't cover the TE?

The Bengals were very quick to call the rollout pass to the tight end which became a td. it was immediatedly after the ravens were penalized for roughing the passer. it was a very very quick playcall.

such a quick call, I suspect, that the plan all along was to call that rollout pass to the tight end, no matter anywhere on the field, after the first, (or any) roughing the passer call would give them the 15 yards and auto 1st down, I'd watch to see if it happens again.

Lamar is so amazing

Much of that was boring. Now they are at halftime.

How did the titans hold the chiefs scoreless for an entire half! Unless/Because their defensive coordinator is NOT a super genius.

Is Washington, Wr Terry McLaurin better than any Wr in the AFC North, or is he just being used better?

To see what it means to have a WR that can get open in space, (on that play to bateman) in spite of a ho hum 40 yard dash time.
Next play was a touchdown, but the previous play tells the story.

Times in the 40 don't mean jack. Can you get open, and can you catch a ball. That's what matters.

Joe Burrow is so amazing

I wonder if Coach Stef is watching and making a note that Cinci neither of these teams can cover the TE?

Jamarr Chase is unbelievable

Nothing makes me happier seeing a RatBird beat except a Browns win

I miss kickoff returns.

Bengals look better than the Browns

Bengals are probably the division winners. They are quite a bit farther ahead than us. More proof you have to have a decent passing game and able to push the ball downfield.

It's funny that the Bengals are playing the Ravens and spanking them and the take away is the Bengals are better than the Browns!

Translate for me, what does "they are quite" mean?

Despite any run by burrow for a td.
The bengals aren't in that position without the dumb qb to wr combo. The ability to get deep quick pass scores in less than 4 plays from the start of a drive.

The only, part of the bengals better than the browns is the conglomerate of cornerbacks,
their top 5.5-6 corners, are better than the browns top 5.5-6, if you include only corners and not safeties.

Playcalling matters, and that includes defensive playcalling.