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Americans are Getting played... They stripped away money to pay for community college and are planning to do this.


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Democrats are preparing to reverse a Trump-era tax move - and it could cut taxes for America's wealthiest residents


Democrats are ready to repeal a Trump-era policy that cut tax breaks for residents of wealthy states.
Democrats have previously argued that capping the deduction for local taxes impacts wealthier blue states more.
However, one budget expert calls it a "gigantic expensive tax cut for the rich."
Democrats are about to include a tax break in their $1.75 trillion social spending plan that will overwhelmingly benefit higher-earning Americans.

On Tuesday, Rep. Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey wrote on Twitter that the provision had been added into the plan. A Democratic aide familiar with negotiations told Insider that Democrats were eyeing a five-year tax break that runs through 2025, a development first reported by Punchbowl News.

The break would also be retroactive to this year.


The SALT deduction allows taxpayers to deduct their state and local tax totals from their federal obligation. Under Trump's 2017 tax plan, the previously unlimited deduction was capped at $10,000. That primarily impacts taxpayers in areas with high local taxes, which tend to be in wealthier blue states like New Jersey.


Trump's tax plan especially hit people with properties in multiple states, who were able to deduct their state property-tax totals in, for instance, New York City, if they had a property there as well as a nearby state like New Jersey, Pennsylvania, or Connecticut.

Revenge of the SALT Caucus
A repeal does have bipartisan support: 32 legislators from both sides of the aisle formed a "SALT Caucus" in April. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has said that the Trump cap was "mean-spirited" and "politically targeted" by taking aim at wealthy residents of blue states. It also had support from Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York.

Marc Goldwein, a budget expert at the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, projects that the five-year SALT deduction would amount to a $500 billion tax cut - with $400 billion flowing to the top 5% of households.

"It's a very good question about priorities when they're willing to put two and a half times as much into tax cuts for the rich as they are into child tax credit and the EITC expansion that mainly go to the poor and middle class," Goldwein said.

Jason Furman, a former top economist to President Barack Obama, wrote on Twitter that he guesses most Americans with a net worth of $50 to $300 million would actually get a tax cut.

"The bill would do more for the super-rich than it does for climate change, childcare or preschool," Furman wrote. "That's obscene."

Some Democrats defended the effort to repeal the cap. "This is about punishing blue state voters," Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon, chair of the Senate Finance Committee, told Insider.

When asked about the SALT deduction as a tax for the wealthy, Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey told Insider, "You clearly have not come to New Jersey."

"I live in a low income neighborhood," Booker added. "People are paying more than $10,000 in taxes. So what are you talking about?"

"This is a middle-class issue and it's something that's really a concern for people," he told Insider.

Not all Democrats are onboard with a repeal. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont came out against it, saying it would effectively provide a tax cut to the very rich.

"At a time of massive income and wealth inequality, the last thing we should be doing is giving more tax breaks to the very rich," he wrote on Twitter. "Democrats campaigned and won on an agenda that demands that the very wealthy finally pay their fair share, not one that gives them more tax breaks."

Sanders added he was open to a compromise approach on the issue, but "won't support more tax breaks for billionaires."

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has said that she thinks "it's just a giveaway to the rich," breaking from some of her fellow New York representatives. She wrote on Twitter that Congress shouldn't endorse a "100% repeal."

Democrats are using the party-line reconciliation process to approve the plan over united Republican opposition. Its afforded them very little room to maneuver given they can only spare three votes in the House and zero in the Senate to mold President Joe Biden's economic plans into law.


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Guarantee it was a demand of one of the centrists holding Biden's agenda hostage for the donor class. Progressives want to tax the rich more, centrists don't.

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Democrats helping Billionaires. Democrats giving Money to Billionaires. Hood-Robin! not Robin-Hood.


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Originally Posted by THROW LONG
Democrats helping Billionaires. Democrats giving Money to Billionaires. Hood-Robin! not Robin-Hood.

That's why it's misleading...


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Worshipping wealthy
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All these hypocrites

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"could cut taxes". Let me know if it does.


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It's reversing a move that Trump made that kinda threw everyone for a loop when he did it. It benefited people who pay high state taxes. Honestly, not really sure how I feel about it.

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So in other words... same as it ever was. Politicians are controlled by the wealthiest Americans and behemoth corporations. Doesn't matter if your red or blue, your vote or allegiance will never change this until we burn the whole thing down.


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Challenging engrained allegiances is the very first step that needs to happen, across the board, for sure.


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We could challenge them by getting these lifelong puppets out of office with term limits and campaign finance reform, but somehow these talking points wither and die during every cycle while we argue over basic nothingness. They've discovered the key and control the narrative through all forms of media, especially social: "Keep them divided and nobody sees the slight of hand; when and if they do, they'll just shout each other down".


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No truer words have been spoken.

I mean, why challenge the career, self-interested politician who's been in office for 20-40 years when we can just scream at clouds, amirite?


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This makes me think of George Carlin's routine on "Why I don't vote" and his "Dumb Americans" routine from his 'Life Is Worth Losing' HBO special.

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I actually do not think term limits would help at all. Sounds good in theory, but all I think all it would do is expedite the stuffing of their pockets with lobbyist money and pushing corporate agendas in an effort to position themselves for a lucrative career for life after politics. The next line of corruptible people would then be elected. Maybe I just think like that because that's what I'd do! tongue

Also, with term limits, could you just take a one year or two year hiatus and re-run for office?

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lol, you can see where the GOPer-lite centrist dems got their way...

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Originally Posted by Milk Man
This makes me think of George Carlin's routine on "Why I don't vote" and his "Dumb Americans" routine from his 'Life Is Worth Losing' HBO special.

Yep. George Carlin always nailed his political and social comedy routines. He was such a masterful wordsmith, a man born before his time. We could use more like him in this country.

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What can I say, I'm a sucker for posh hotels, lavish retreats and a little insider trading mixed in! tongue

Icing on the cake would be a ribbon cutting ceremony with giant scissors. Seems like mayors get to have the most fun with this one.

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Originally Posted by Milk Man
I actually do not think term limits would help at all. Sounds good in theory, but all I think all it would do is expedite the stuffing of their pockets with lobbyist money and pushing corporate agendas in an effort to position themselves for a lucrative career for life after politics. The next line of corruptible people would then be elected. Maybe I just think like that because that's what I'd do! tongue

Also, with term limits, could you just take a one year or two year hiatus and re-run for office?
Agree. Which is exactly why eliminating lobbyist money and campaign finance reform have to take place at the same time.


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Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Milk Man
I actually do not think term limits would help at all. Sounds good in theory, but all I think all it would do is expedite the stuffing of their pockets with lobbyist money and pushing corporate agendas in an effort to position themselves for a lucrative career for life after politics. The next line of corruptible people would then be elected. Maybe I just think like that because that's what I'd do! tongue

Also, with term limits, could you just take a one year or two year hiatus and re-run for office?
Agree. Which is exactly why eliminating lobbyist money and campaign finance reform have to take place at the same time.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Citizens United vs. Federal Elections Commission effectively ruined any chance of that happening.

Not only that, but good luck getting the House and Senate to ever vote a bill that would go against their own financially interests. I know I wouldn't!

When congress was voting on raising the debt ceiling, one of the amendments that was voted on on the floor was that if the debt ceiling was not raised, and the government was shutdown, congress would not receive their pay as well. That was resoundingly rejected. Lol.

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I and many others in California would benefit from a SALT repeal. It is not hard to accrue 10 k in mortgage interest charges on a house in CA.

It is a Blue state tax that hurts typical homeowners here.

That said, the cap should be moved up to a reasonable amount.


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