Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 4 of 4 1 2 3 4
SuperBrown #1908826 12/08/21 12:19 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 3,568
Likes: 27
H
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
H
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 3,568
Likes: 27
The Bills were a big favorite to go to the Super Bowl this year. They still might but if they don't, and right now it doesn't look good, there could be changes in Buffalo. Right now there's a chance they could miss the playoffs. That could cost McDermott his job.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 51,581
Likes: 185
P
Legend
Offline
Legend
P
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 51,581
Likes: 185
Many posters on this board think they're more qualified to game plan in the NFL than actual NFL HC's. It's become quite the fad.


Help Wanted: Stalker expert needed to rid Dawgtlkers of serial stalker with obsession issues. Apply via PM.

#gmstrong
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,043
Likes: 194
M
Legend
Online
Legend
M
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,043
Likes: 194
Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
The Bills were a big favorite to go to the Super Bowl this year. They still might but if they don't, and right now it doesn't look good, there could be changes in Buffalo. Right now there's a chance they could miss the playoffs. That could cost McDermott his job.

More likely Daboll.

Milk Man #1908926 12/08/21 09:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,043
Likes: 194
M
Legend
Online
Legend
M
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,043
Likes: 194
Belichick might beat Tom Terrific in the Super Bowl this year.


Milk Man #1908967 12/09/21 10:30 AM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 26,424
Likes: 144
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 26,424
Likes: 144
The thing that stands out to me most in that video: Culture.
You can SEE the degree to which the players have bought in and take ownership. Even in the group rah-rah huddle at the end, all of the guys are in the moment and participating, but not in a detached going-through-the-motions sorta way because it's the eleven billionth time you've done it; like it kinda feels when we see so many other teams' players in their "speech huddles". It isn't just a thing you do to these guys, it means something to them.

Last edited by PrplPplEater; 12/09/21 10:31 AM.

Fear us, for we have Hughlett

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 26,424
Likes: 144
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 26,424
Likes: 144
You know what WAS missing?

Screens to the RB.
A screen to the RB is often called a "long hand-off". It's a quick way of getting the ball out on the perimeter in the hands of a RB.

Guess who didn't catch a single ball? Hunt.
I get that they may have had him on a pitch count, or whatever, but still: he caught none. He may have been targeted once as he does show up on the stat sheet as a receiver, but it is all zeroes.

Eh, in short, nothing was working and when things aren't working you aren't getting 1st Downs and when that's happening, your number of opportunities to try things get really limited really quickly, which severely hampers your chances of figuring anything out.

Hopefully, two weeks of film study has taught our offensive staff a thing or two.


Fear us, for we have Hughlett

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,673
Likes: 60
P
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
P
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,673
Likes: 60
Baker’s fumble was on a screen to Hunt. One that would have netted huge yards. Potentially a TD.


[Linked Image]
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 26,424
Likes: 144
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 26,424
Likes: 144
ahhh, I completely forgot about that one (and actually am unable to recall it even now), but that explains the stat line.


Fear us, for we have Hughlett

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

PitDAWG #1909061 12/09/21 03:43 PM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,889
Likes: 143
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,889
Likes: 143
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Many posters on this board think they're more qualified to game plan in the NFL than actual NFL HC's. It's become quite the fad.
That's not true. Most of folks on here give very elementary ideas to "game planning" like, we should run the ball more, or we need to catch passes, or we need to throw deeper to relax their run defense... those aren't game plans, those are general high-level opinions. The coach develops the concepts, identifies the weaknesses, and sets out the lists of plays they will use in specific situations, that's a game plan.

I'm certainly not qualified to do that, but I do feel qualified, as a fan, to have an opinion on whether it was successful or not... and if it wasn't successful to make some determination on how much of that was the plan and how much was the execution... As for Belichick, there aren't many, in fact I can't think of a single one, coaches who would have the stones to run the ball 50 times and throw it 3 times in a game that was never more than a 1 score game. That is serious conviction to the game plan.

DCDAWGFAN #1909066 12/09/21 03:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,836
Likes: 26
T
Legend
OP Offline
Legend
T
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,836
Likes: 26
Didn't the Browns run it almost exclusively a few years back in a 6-3 or 9-6 win in a game against, (might have been the bills) when Phil Dawson wass the kicker, and one of the 3 RB's had an L in his first or last name, and it was a year before they added Peyton Hillis, or the year before Hillis was put on the Madden cover. Ok, so the Browns threw more than 3 passes, but they threw less than 10 passes iirc, and who did they have, Thaddeus lewis? and Cribbs in the wildcat? Something. The Browns won the game, iirc. It ought to be easier to look up if it was a Browns win, there were fewer of those.


" You have to be able to throw the ball and throw the ball effectively in this league to keep up with the better football teams" Warren Moon. 1,8,12. Yes We Can Yes We Can!
THROW LONG #1909067 12/09/21 04:03 PM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,889
Likes: 143
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,889
Likes: 143
Originally Posted by THROW LONG
Didn't the Browns run it almost exclusively a few years back in a 6-3 or 9-6 win in a game against, (might have been the bills) when Phil Dawson wass the kicker, and one of the 3 RB's had an L in his first or last name, and it was a year before they added Peyton Hillis, or the year before Hillis was put on the Madden cover. Ok, so the Browns threw more than 3 passes, but they threw less than 10 passes iirc, and who did they have, Thaddeus lewis? and Cribbs in the wildcat? Something. The Browns won the game, iirc. It ought to be easier to look up if it was a Browns win, there were fewer of those.
You talking about the Browns vs Bills 2007 blizzard game that we won 8-0? Derek Anderson threw the ball 24 times (9 completions).. Jamal Lewis ran it 33 times for 168... which kind of proves my point, Jamal Lewis is running in a blizzard at a 5 ypc clip, DA is completing less than 40% of his passes.. but did we fully, and I do mean FULLY, commit to the run? No, still felt the need to throw it more than we should have.

SuperBrown #1909071 12/09/21 04:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,836
Likes: 26
T
Legend
OP Offline
Legend
T
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,836
Likes: 26
Originally Posted by SuperBrown
Cheatriots did nothing special. They simply ran the ball down the Bills throats.

Can the Browns simply run the ball down the ravions throats this week then. Please!
And I think no better guy to run right at them, than D'Ernest Johnson!


" You have to be able to throw the ball and throw the ball effectively in this league to keep up with the better football teams" Warren Moon. 1,8,12. Yes We Can Yes We Can!
DCDAWGFAN #1909073 12/09/21 04:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 12,864
Likes: 128
D
Legend
Online
Legend
D
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 12,864
Likes: 128
Its from 1950, which kind of proves your point, but the Browns beat the Eagles 13-7 on 12/3/50 without throwing a single pass. What makes it a good story was this was Paul Brown making a point because Eagles coach Greasy Neale had denigrated the Browns after losing to them in the opener by complaining that it was an "aerial circus" more akin tp basketball than football. I posted a game story above in the thread.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/195012030cle.htm

THROW LONG #1909080 12/09/21 04:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,836
Likes: 26
T
Legend
OP Offline
Legend
T
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,836
Likes: 26
Can I butt my Head where it doesn't belong into this argument between DC, and Prpl. about the attributes of the Running Qb that Lamar is, and Bakers' greatness.
Point#2. ... Lamar! Is a Freak of elusiveness, with 4' 4 speed, and a jukeing ability, (Barry Sanders meets Micheal Vick) And he's not a bad passer but he gets help because the league helps the ravens.

Point#1. The Browns' because of league bias's against them, would have lessened the effectiveness of any Qb they took #1 overall, and in Baker, they took the best one, but, they would have ruined, Maommes, Wentz, Guy who is not in Chicago anymore, Lamar,, (Browns would have ruined Lamar) ...
Lamar would not have done as well on the Browns because the league wouldn't have allowed it, -- Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, Mac Jones, Bengals idiot... anybody you can name, the Browns would have ruined him, not because the Browns did anything, but because the league freaking sinks the Browns,,, like wolf pack subs in the north atlantic in 1939 sank merchant vessels.

Point #3. There is some merit to a point that the Running Qbs of the past, Micheal Vick, RG3, and Randall Cunningham, and maybe even Cam Newton, had a tendency to get injured moreso because they ran more than some other pocket passers.

Point #4. Even Freaking Josh Allen, and, Green Bay forget his name, early in his career, and Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, all newer younger quarterbacks ...(better said), Even Pocket Passers are Running the Ball More in recent years, so that the Entire NFL is trending toward qBs who can Score Touchdowns running the ball in.

But Point #1 AGAIN! The Browns would have ruined any QB they could add,
and when they got Baker, they got the Best One,
But the league said, We hate Cleveland and will make all refs calls make sure they lose every year. (and few things overtrump that, exept bad coaching, "nothing overtrumps bad coaching" remember that, learned that lesson in 2006, 2005, one of em.)

So that if Lamar Jakson had come to the Browns instead of Mayfield, Lamar Jackson would have been ruined like, well like Mason Rudolph probably.
We're doomed.


" You have to be able to throw the ball and throw the ball effectively in this league to keep up with the better football teams" Warren Moon. 1,8,12. Yes We Can Yes We Can!
THROW LONG #1909292 12/10/21 01:22 PM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,889
Likes: 143
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,889
Likes: 143
If I genuinely believed that there was this deep of a conspiracy against one team like you suggest the league has against the Browns, the last place you would find me on Sunday, or during the week, is watching or discussing that league...

Page 4 of 4 1 2 3 4
DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2021 NFL Season Looking Back: Bye Week Other Games

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5