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There is no non-idiot person in this country that would run for President and expose themself to the vitriol that exists in this county. Only an idiot would want to run this insane asylum.

But comparing Trump presidency to Biden is a reach. Trump is in need of that long white jacket with the sleeves that tie together.

If there are 100 million of you that means over 25 million of you didn't show up to vote.

You may be right on that 100 million. I'm guessing there are probably over 25 million real republicans that couldn't stomach your extremism enough to come out and support it on election day. It gives at least some hope there are enough sane ones left to save the party.

I have no skin in this game. So take this for what it's worth. I voted for Obama 2x and I voted for Hillary back in 2016. After seeing what Trump did to improve our economy and most importantly, bring back the sense of Patriotism that liberals tried to destroy, I knew we had the best man for the job. I tend to fall in the average on most things. Keep all of this in mind when you think about which movement/political party is growing and which one is dying. Trump outed the liberal media for the lying scumbags that they are - if you get your thoughts from the liberal media as to the state of the Republican Party, my advice to you is to be more skeptical. 100,000,025 now.

Trump publicly lied more than any president before him. And how did he "bring back patriotism"? Now you're just making BS up.

Well the difference between Trump being a player and Kamala being a hoe is that Trump's behavior wasn't done to climb a political ladder. I mean, he didn't sleep with those women to get anywhere in life, he relied on his business acumen for his status. Trump also proved that he could excel and make billions of dollars in the private sector on account, again, of his intelligence and business acumen. Potato head and Kamala never accomplished anything in the real world and their lack of experience, and well, intuition is playing out before our eyes. It's my pleasure seeing them fail daily. It's also my pleasure to see Trump's cause and support grow daily. No denying it.

Ever heard of Willie Brown? - You know, the guy who she slept with as she climbed her way through the communist democrat party?

Well OCD, I think that you're vile, sexist, and racist. You disgust me as well.

I guess bankruptcies and a reality show don't count. Who could go bankrupt owning a casino? The odds are stacked in your favor.

So it's not about cheating. It's why you cheat that makes you a scum bag?

His intelligence? You've never listened to him speak? Being a good con man is all he has proven. That and the fact that no matter what a nasty, awful human being you are, you can still get elected.

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Putting your politics over the good of the country. You do realize that's the opposite of being a patriot, right?

Supporting socialism is not the good of the Country. It is not democracy. It is crazy. It has not worked any where in the world. It will not work here. It is giving your freedoms up to a Government that wants to control you.

You didn't have a problem with corporate socialism. It's the same tired BS you've been spouting for years.

"It helps people and not corporations so it must be socialism."

So you're trying to say all of Europe has failed and are socialist countries because they have things like social medicine, paid family leave and child care? I think you need to stop believing what you're being spoon fed. Those are all elected democracies and do not have socialist governments. There's a difference between having social policies that benefit your people and being a socialist nation. You just haven't been able to figure that out yet.

I don't ever want to figure it out. It is bad. It is wrong. Get the government out of my pockets! Out of my business!

Then build your own roads, refuse to call the fire department or the police if you ever need them and stop sending your kids to school. All of that damned socialism must be killing you.

No what gets me is higher taxes. I want tax cuts. Not higher taxes. If my boss makes more money then great! If the Company I work for makes more money then great! Those things usually result in employee raises and bonuses. See the key word is employees!!! If you are not an employee and do not pay taxes then why should you get more!!! Why should those who work have to pay more for socialized medicine. Insurance is a program that is for people who work. Why should those that work pay taxes for other to receive a child tax credit whether they work or not? See the problem I have is creating a dependent society. We have already done that so to speak. We have every business out there begging for workers and no one wants to work. This is how a society decays from the inside. If a society does not work it will not survive. Margret Thatcher once said the problem with socialism is that it is all well and good until you run out of other peoples money.

Those are functions of State governments, not the Feds.

Working people paying taxes for roads, fire departments and police protection is a normal function of any nation.

Working people paying taxes to help those who can't work is a valuable safety net.

Working people paying taxes to care for the Won't Works is Socialism.

Pay more? You do realize that the costs you pay for health care includes the money lost for the uninsured, right? You're already paying for it. Corporations do not operate at a loss. So you think you only pay for your cost of healthcare and that hospitals, doctors and everyone in the healthcare field just eats the costs of the uninsured? No, it's already baked into the costs others pay.

It's just like shoplifting. You pay more for goods that includes what stores are losing for stolen goods. Let me give you an example of ways that the cry of socialism is actually costing you money. Millions of Americans are on either medicaid or medicare. A simple solution to help cut costs is to have drug manufacturers bid on drug prices to bring those costs down. They already do this in the military to keep their costs down. We pay far more for the same drugs as our neighbors to the north. But Republicans cry socialism about it. How is actually saving billions every year in tax payer dollars socialism? Competitive bidding is what most people consider a part of capitalism. That is until the government wants to do it.

You see, you really don't mind paying for the uninsured because you already are. You just want to pick and choose who you are paying that money to. That's why auto insurance became a law. Drivers with insurance were covering the cost of uninsured drivers with higher rates and forced to pay their own damaged automobiles. That's why you have to pay extra for uninsured motorist coverage. But somehow you think healthcare is different. It's not.

This will be my last response to your trolling. If you want to talk policy or whatnot fine, but your trash posts filled with Hannity quotes aren’t worth my further effort.

Portland is safe. I have many friends raising families here. Like all big cities it has its issues. I’ll just say I know them better than you, as I live here. Where as you rely on Tucker and his ilk to tell you what Portland is or isn’t.
I live here and I’m a good, hardworking, person of faith that loves my family. My friends are all very good people. Hardworking people from many backgrounds and socioeconomic levels. Most are raising, or have raised, great kids. So again your views are greatly misguided.
I have no plans of leaving. I like it here. I’ve traveled enough to see what the rest of the United States had to offer before I settled. As it stands my next move will likely be out of this country upon retirement. Someplace with more affordable healthcare, a better political climate, fewer guns and gun nuts, a place with a better quality of life. I know that you likely don’t think that’s possible outside our borders but I assure you it is.

Have a day Muni. Good luck out there doing battle with everyone you feel is a libtard or whatever.
What a life.

I certainly don't agree with this rhetoric, but it does most certainly assist in balancing out the wildly ridiculous posts made by your counterparts on here.

So is healthcare for almost every industrialized nation but us.


You already do. You just pay the sunken cost to corporations so you can call it capitalism. Your healthcare costs are high enough to pay for the money lost on the uninsured. Corporations do not operate at a loss.

Yes they do, just before they go under, throwing all the workers on the street.

Profits benefit us all. Capitalism.

I am sorry I disagree. If a person does not work they are not entitled to the benefits that workers get. I know folks from London England they HATE their government controlled socialized medicine. They said when you get older don't get sick. If it is not worth it because of your age they are denied medical treatment unless they can pay for it themselves. I also know in Canada products that the government deem to cause health issues are outlawed.

PitDawg, there are countries that utilize socialism. Venezuela comes to mind. Would you consider leaving the United States and moving to Venezuela? If not, why? Does the prospect of famine, depression, and outright poverty not entice you?

U.K. Hospitals Are Overburdened, But The British Love Their Universal Health Care

https://www.npr.org/sections/parall...british-love-their-universal-health-care

Most Canadians Maintain Confidence in the Health Care System

https://researchco.ca/2020/08/18/health-care-canada/

You must not know a lot of these people.

It's odd that you point out Venezuela while ignoring Europe and Canada who we far more closely resemble. Well actually it's not odd. It's quite expected. That's the way the right has been trying to package it for some time now.

Yet hospitals in europe and all the major drug companies who supply nations with national healthcare are not going out of business. hmmmm...

The case in Burlington is similar to other cities that also moved to defund last year, but have since beefed up its police department following crime increases.


"If you want to fix policing you have to hire cops, you have to train them differently and hold them accountable," Chuck Wexler, the Police Executive Research Forum’s executive director, told the Wall Street Journal last month. "The notion that taking away resources is going to improve policing is ridiculous."

Cities such as Baltimore, Portland and Oakland, California, have all moved to or already beefed up funding to police departments amid crime spikes.

"Many Portlanders no longer feel safe," Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler said last month when the city council increased the police budget by $5.2 million. "And it is our duty, as leaders of this city, to take action and deliver better results within our crisis response system."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/burlington-vermont-defund-police-pay-price-no-one-happy

Too bad you wouldn't listen when we told you it was a stupid idea to defund.

Mmmmm no they don't.

Huh ? You think the USA is closer to a socialist country like Venezuela than countries like the UK, Germany and Canada?

Ummmmm ....

Well once you've been programed on what to believe common sense no longer applies......

I have no clue what you're comparing here. However, I think it's evident that the U.S. resembles a third world country now more than it did 20 years ago. If you're a fan of socialism, please move to Venezuela and get back to me after you have to resort to eating the family pet for dinner.

Oh yes, NPR is a neutral rational point of reference. Why don't you use a CNN poll next time. I know a couple where the husband was born in my hometown here in the US and have lived in London since the 70's. As they would say it is not lovely!!! There is nothing good about it. Especially if you are older.

As per usual you made a false claim. NPR didn't conduct the poll. They're simply reporting what the poll said. The poll itself was conducted by British Future. A British company polling of British citizens. I'm pretty sure where you get your news from would never report this story at all so you have to find it somewhere. I would never trust an opinion piece by NPR. But this isn't an opinion and they did not conduct the poll. But you keep doing you.

Here is some more "actual facts" from the publication the British Statesman.


The article will point out to you that any politician that would try to privatize their healthcare system would be committing political suicide. Even conservative politicians over there know that. That's wjhy they have made no effort to.



72% of those who actually live there disagree with you. I'm glad you "know a couple" but obviously only 21% of the people who live their agree with them.

You've got this entirely backwards. Nobody liked Biden. He's a joke. But they still voted for him in order to keep Trump from a second term. That's how the country can elect him while handing seats to Repubs basically nonstop.

As for the rest of your post, I found it pretty despicable.

So they didn't actually say the NHS was great, but they said it's a great symbol. Sadly, while symbols are nice for propaganda, they don't always live up to their alleged ideals. I do wonder how many focus groups they went through before they figured out how to word the options to get the result they wanted.

Yeah, that's why they must do everything to maintain it and that's why it would be political suicide to run on a platform to end it.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...-manchin-before-announcement-he-wont?amp

Corporate donors gave to Manchin before announcement he wouldn't support Build Back Better: report


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Sen. Joe Manchin's (D-W.Va.) political action committee saw a surge of contributions from corporate donors in the fall before his announcement that he would not support President Biden's Build Back Better social spending package.

Biden unveiled the $1.75 trillion Build Back Better Act in October.

According to CNBC's analysis of Federal Election Commission filings, Manchin's leadership PAC, Country Roads, received 36 donations from corporations in the last two months and raised close to $260,000 in that time period.

In November, Country Roads PAC received corporate contributions in the range of $2,500 to $5,000 from donors including American Express, Goldman Sachs, Lockheed Martin, UnitedHealth Group, Blue Cross Blue Shield and CNX Resources, a natural gas company, last month, according to the news outlet.



The total amount raised last month amounted to $110,000.

Manchin's PAC raised over $150,000 in October from widely known corporations such as Verizon, Union Pacific, Wells Fargo and PACs tied to the coal and mining industries, according to CNBC.

The news comes after Manchin announced on "Fox News Sunday" that he will not vote for Biden's climate and social spending bill, most likely killing a crucial part of the administration's domestic agenda and top legislative priority.



"I cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation. I just can't. I tried everything humanly possible. I can't get there," Manchin told host Bret Baier. "This is a 'no' on this legislation."

In a statement, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said that Manchin's opposition was a surprise, adding that he went back on the framework that Biden presented to him last week.

"If his comments on Fox and written statement indicate an end to that effort, they represent a sudden and inexplicable reversal in his position, and a breach of his commitments to the president and the senator's colleagues in the House and Senate," Psaki said.



Many business groups and leaders have lobbied Manchin to oppose the social spending package, which includes provisions to combat climate change. Before announcing his opposition to the bill, Manchin came out against a number of these provisions.

Country Roads PAC also spent thousands of dollars on hotel arrangements and travel over the last two months, which includes spending more than $40,000 in November at The Greenbrier, a luxury resort that is owned by Gov. Jim Justice's (R) family, CNBC reported.

According to the FEC filing, the money was used for catering, lodging, food and beverages, CNBC noted.


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“Communism”

Revealing but not surprising, sadly.