Lying ass centrist DINO Joe Manchin just single-handedly ended the child tax credit monthly payments, thereby sending 3-5 million children back into a life of poverty. Centrists just killed the dem party. No way in hell another dem gets the united progressive vote after this. Progressives are the only congress persons NOT in the pocket of big business. They are the only group fighting for everyday Americans on both sides of the aisle. And we are just done with the way establishment dems treat us. I don't care who wins in 2024 because this country is dead, it just hasn't realized it yet.
Man screw joe machin. This clown just picked his brokerage account and corporate slave masters over the people of West Virginia and America as a whole.
His entire state would’ve benefited from this bill. Man I hate snakes like him. He needs to call up Mitch McConnell and swap parties. He wanna boot lick corporations, then do it with the rest of the Republican Party.
Finally had a chance to do real good for America, and then this happens.
Yes. Not sure if it is for good, but most likely it is.
There will be no:
Universal child care, child tax credit monthly checks, elder care, expanded social security or medicare benefits, negotiated drug prices (insulin will remain at $1000 a month instead of $40, EpiPens still at $800), no additional climate change programs, low cost education, etc. etc. etc.
Goldman Sachs cuts US economic forecast after Joe Manchin rejects Build Back Better
(CNN Business)Senator Joe Manchin's opposition to the Build Back Better Act prompted Goldman Sachs to swiftly dim its US economic outlook.
The Wall Street firm told clients Sunday it no longer assumes President Joe Biden's signature legislation will get through the narrowly divided Congress, citing the West Virginia Democrat's announcement that he's a "no" on the $1.75 trillion bill.
"A failure to pass BBB has negative growth implications," Goldman Sachs economists, led by Jan Hatzius, said in the research report.
Citing the "apparent demise" of Build Back Better, Goldman Sachs now expects GDP to grow at an annualized pace of 2% in the first quarter, down from 3% previously.
The bank also trimmed its GDP forecasts for the second quarter to 3% (from 3.5% previously) and the third quarter to 2.75% (compared with 3% previously). It specifically pointed to the expiration of the child tax credit and the lack of the other new spending that had been anticipated
Goldman Sachs (GS) reiterated that upcoming inflation reports are not likely to help swing the tide back in favor of Build Back Better. The consumer price index (CPI) rose in November by 6.8% from the year earlier, the biggest 12-month jump in 39 years.
"With headline CPI reaching as high as 7% in the next few months in our forecast before it begins to fall, the inflation concerns that Sen. Manchin and others have already expressed are likely to persist, making passage more difficult," Goldman Sachs economists wrote. "The omicron variant is also likely to shift political attention back to virus-related issues and away from long-term reforms."
The lowered chances that Build Back Better has "negative implications for near-term consumption" but will likely have some "offsetting positive effects" for financial markets, Goldman Sachs said.
Specifically, the chances of corporate tax hikes have faded — and those higher tax bills would have eaten into the bottom lines of S&P 500 companies. It's also a positive for biotech companies that would have been hit by $100 billion in price reductions in the Medicare program, Goldman Sachs said.
Still, Goldman Sachs said there is a chance that Congress passes a few smaller short-term provisions aimed at virus-related issues.
There is a lot of uncertainty over the fate of the expanded child tax credit that was a key part of Build Back Better and Goldman Sachs called this the "most important question for the near-term outlook."
While there is "some chance" that Congress extends the credit retroactively, Goldman Sachs said "the odds of this happening seem to be less than even at this point."
Oh, and the Fed decided now would be a good time to fight inflation. So, all that money they have been pumping into the stock market since 2009 is going to stop next month and interest rates are going up. So instead of leveling the playing field, we get more austerity. Pitchforks will be out by next summer. None of this will end well.
Actually a failed president gets impeached, twice. Loses the popular vote, twice. Cheats on his wives, more than twice. Is divorced, twice. Has a mail order bride and a cokehead son. Has MULTIPLE bankruptcies…. and was generally the worst president since Carter.
Actually a failed president gets impeached, twice. Loses the popular vote, twice. Cheats on his wives, more than twice. Is divorced, twice. Has a mail order bride and a cokehead son. Has MULTIPLE bankruptcies…. and was generally the worst president since Carter.
I guess you enjoy the highest inflation in 40+ years? I know Trump was not a good person. That is not in debate. Neither was Clinton and you'll elected him twice. A requirement for the Presidency is not a good person. However, a President should not negatively impact the economy!
If you think Biden is fully responsible for this inflation you’re misguided. Maybe if the idiot in the Oval hadn’t botched the COVID response so miserably we’d be in better shape? But alas the denier in chief said it would “magically disappear”…. and here we are. But yes Biden made a declaration on his second day in office, “let’s drive up inflation”…or something… according to ‘your side’.
Actually a failed president gets impeached, twice. Loses the popular vote, twice. Cheats on his wives, more than twice. Is divorced, twice. Has a mail order bride and a cokehead son. Has MULTIPLE bankruptcies…. and was generally the worst president since Carter.
I guess you enjoy the highest inflation in 40+ years? I know Trump was not a good person. That is not in debate. Neither was Clinton and you'll elected him twice. A requirement for the Presidency is not a good person. However, a President should not negatively impact the economy!
As if almost a year of economic shutdown has nothing to do with it. The insurrectionist right doesn't get to have an opinion on Dems.
I find it intriguing that Harris is starting to distance herself from Biden's comments.
Intriguing? More like inevitable. Politicians are known for covering their own behinds. He was always a match of expedience for her. Now that his ship is sinking, it appears her loyalty only lasts while it benefits her. ...Politicians....
Sinking? Are his approval ratings under 40%? I mean, compared to Trump, who rarely ever got over 40%, his numbers have been astounding. But you are right, they have dropped. This article from today, December 20th, say he is currently at an all time low of 41%, or where Trump was his entire Presidency.
Biden approval rating at historic low in NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll
Makes perfect sense, people had hopes that Biden was going to be this big change... then covid kept ravaging, inflation started making people poorer, supply chain shortages kept going, so his approval rating has plunged....
We live in a divided country where it is going to be extremely hard for any president to get, and stay, much above 50% approval.... Too many devoted Ds and Rs will never admit that a president from the other party is doing a good job.
Here is an idea bro. Maybe somebody should run for President who isn't an idiot like Both Trump, and Biden. Or better yet we need a 3rd party that doesn't lean far right, or far left. but one that is down the middle.
It's kind of nice seeing illegitimate president potato head and the unqualified hoebag illegitimate vp Kamala make a mockery of our once great country. I can't count how many people that I know that have turned on potato head and want our real president Trump back in his office. 2022 is just about here - Virginia was the first taste. 2024 can't get here soon enough- you can feel it coming. It's kind of amusing watching libtards get mad at other libtards for enabling crime and violence. Don't worry, you'll all get another chance to vote.
It's kind of nice seeing illegitimate president potato head and the unqualified hoebag illegitimate vp Kamala make a mockery of our once great country. I can't count how many people that I know that have turned on potato head and want our real president Trump back in his office. 2022 is just about here - Virginia was the first taste. 2024 can't get here soon enough- you can feel it coming. It's kind of amusing watching libtards get mad at other libtards for enabling crime and violence. Don't worry, you'll all get another chance to vote.
This entire post is hilarious… and a pathetic display of your intelligence. Thanks for outing yourself as a walking caricature.
Man screw joe machin. This clown just picked his brokerage account and corporate slave masters over the people of West Virginia and America as a whole.
I agree that corporatism is comparable to a rabbit chasing a carrot. - "Here little rabbit, here's a bite, now do this for me." - I hate corporatism. Additionally, I like having the choice if I want to be part of the corporate establishment or go my own way. However, what is happening now is far scarier than corporatism. We're talking about big government. - A government that wants to tell you and me what we can own, what we can support/not support, how much money we're allowed to make and how much we have to give to the government etc. etc. If people like Obiden get their way, and we project this over the next 20 years, I can't imagine the sort of government tyranny we'll be facing.
As for the topic, I give Joe Manchin credit for trying to save America. His efforts are valiant but are just one little wave in the sea of Patriotism that has overtaken this country over the last 6 months. Americans have woken up and are already taking action. 2022 will be a great year, and 2024 will be even better. It's not a matter of "if" our legitimate president Trump returns, as much as it is a question of "when".
This entire post is hilarious… and a pathetic display of your intelligence. Thanks for outing yourself as a walking caricature.
No joke, I visited Portland when I was a kid way back when. Over the last few years, all of the family that I had there has moved to Texas. I wonder why.
Man screw joe machin. This clown just picked his brokerage account and corporate slave masters over the people of West Virginia and America as a whole.
I agree that corporatism is comparable to a rabbit chasing a carrot. - "Here little rabbit, here's a bite, now do this for me." - I hate corporatism. Additionally, I like having the choice if I want to be part of the corporate establishment or go my own way. However, what is happening now is far scarier than corporatism. We're talking about big government. - A government that wants to tell you and me what we can own, what we can support/not support, how much money we're allowed to make and how much we have to give to the government etc. etc. If people like Obiden get their way, and we project this over the next 20 years, I can't imagine the sort of government tyranny we'll be facing.
As for the topic, I give Joe Manchin credit for trying to save America. His efforts are valiant but are just one little wave in the sea of Patriotism that has overtaken this country over the last 6 months. Americans have woken up and are already taking action. 2022 will be a great year, and 2024 will be even better. It's not a matter of "if" our legitimate president Trump returns, as much as it is a question of "when".
Let me guess, the Trump fascism you want to return was A-OKAY with you… If you bought into that BS, you are a fascist insurrectionist supporting dolt. I'll never live to see it, but I can die happy knowing your ilk is permanently on its way out, going the way of the dinosaur. Yep, the GOP of today is just the flailing corpse that doesn't know it's dead yet, like a chicken with its head cut off. You might win a few more elections here and there, but conservatism is dead in the GOP. The GOP won't stand much longer, simply standing for nothing.
It's kind of nice seeing illegitimate president potato head and the unqualified hoebag illegitimate vp Kamala make a mockery of our once great country. I can't count how many people that I know that have turned on potato head and want our real president Trump back in his office. 2022 is just about here - Virginia was the first taste. 2024 can't get here soon enough- you can feel it coming. It's kind of amusing watching libtards get mad at other libtards for enabling crime and violence. Don't worry, you'll all get another chance to vote.
And there it is. The Trumpain mentality that is destroying the Republican party on full display.
Municipal Stadium got leveled and pushed into the lake. In its place we have a newer, better, facility. - Thank You Al Lerner. Portland used to be a safe place for families to visit. Thanks to liberals it's now considered an unsafe, lawless, garbage city. I'll never go there again. It's a shame that all of the good, hardworking, people of faith and family have left Portland due to liberal politics. But hey, please stay and enjoy. If you decide to leave, I hear California and Washington are nice. - Once you get around all of that looting and taxation lol.
Here is an idea bro. Maybe somebody should run for President who isn't an idiot like Both Trump, and Biden. Or better yet we need a 3rd party that doesn't lean far right, or far left. but one that is down the middle.
There is no non-idiot person in this country that would run for President and expose themself to the vitriol that exists in this county. Only an idiot would want to run this insane asylum.
But comparing Trump presidency to Biden is a reach. Trump is in need of that long white jacket with the sleeves that tie together.
And there it is. The Trumpain mentality that is destroying the Republican party on full display.
Keep telling yourself that. 100 million strong and growing every second.
If there are 100 million of you that means over 25 million of you didn't show up to vote.
You may be right on that 100 million. I'm guessing there are probably over 25 million real republicans that couldn't stomach your extremism enough to come out and support it on election day. It gives at least some hope there are enough sane ones left to save the party.
I have no skin in this game. So take this for what it's worth. I voted for Obama 2x and I voted for Hillary back in 2016. After seeing what Trump did to improve our economy and most importantly, bring back the sense of Patriotism that liberals tried to destroy, I knew we had the best man for the job. I tend to fall in the average on most things. Keep all of this in mind when you think about which movement/political party is growing and which one is dying. Trump outed the liberal media for the lying scumbags that they are - if you get your thoughts from the liberal media as to the state of the Republican Party, my advice to you is to be more skeptical. 100,000,025 now.
Well the difference between Trump being a player and Kamala being a hoe is that Trump's behavior wasn't done to climb a political ladder. I mean, he didn't sleep with those women to get anywhere in life, he relied on his business acumen for his status. Trump also proved that he could excel and make billions of dollars in the private sector on account, again, of his intelligence and business acumen. Potato head and Kamala never accomplished anything in the real world and their lack of experience, and well, intuition is playing out before our eyes. It's my pleasure seeing them fail daily. It's also my pleasure to see Trump's cause and support grow daily. No denying it.
I guess bankruptcies and a reality show don't count. Who could go bankrupt owning a casino? The odds are stacked in your favor.
So it's not about cheating. It's why you cheat that makes you a scum bag?
His intelligence? You've never listened to him speak? Being a good con man is all he has proven. That and the fact that no matter what a nasty, awful human being you are, you can still get elected.
Putting your politics over the good of the country. You do realize that's the opposite of being a patriot, right?
Supporting socialism is not the good of the Country. It is not democracy. It is crazy. It has not worked any where in the world. It will not work here. It is giving your freedoms up to a Government that wants to control you.
You didn't have a problem with corporate socialism. It's the same tired BS you've been spouting for years.
"It helps people and not corporations so it must be socialism."
So you're trying to say all of Europe has failed and are socialist countries because they have things like social medicine, paid family leave and child care? I think you need to stop believing what you're being spoon fed. Those are all elected democracies and do not have socialist governments. There's a difference between having social policies that benefit your people and being a socialist nation. You just haven't been able to figure that out yet.
You didn't have a problem with corporate socialism. It's the same tired BS you've been spouting for years.
"It helps people and not corporations so it must be socialism."
So you're trying to say all of Europe has failed and are socialist countries because they have things like social medicine, paid family leave and child care? I think you need to stop believing what you're being spoon fed. Those are all elected democracies and do not have socialist governments. There's a difference between having social policies that benefit your people and being a socialist nation. You just haven't been able to figure that out yet.
I don't ever want to figure it out. It is bad. It is wrong. Get the government out of my pockets! Out of my business!
Then build your own roads, refuse to call the fire department or the police if you ever need them and stop sending your kids to school. All of that damned socialism must be killing you.
Then build your own roads, refuse to call the fire department or the police if you ever need them and stop sending your kids to school. All of that damned socialism must be killing you.
No what gets me is higher taxes. I want tax cuts. Not higher taxes. If my boss makes more money then great! If the Company I work for makes more money then great! Those things usually result in employee raises and bonuses. See the key word is employees!!! If you are not an employee and do not pay taxes then why should you get more!!! Why should those who work have to pay more for socialized medicine. Insurance is a program that is for people who work. Why should those that work pay taxes for other to receive a child tax credit whether they work or not? See the problem I have is creating a dependent society. We have already done that so to speak. We have every business out there begging for workers and no one wants to work. This is how a society decays from the inside. If a society does not work it will not survive. Margret Thatcher once said the problem with socialism is that it is all well and good until you run out of other peoples money.
Then build your own roads, refuse to call the fire department or the police if you ever need them and stop sending your kids to school. All of that damned socialism must be killing you.
Those are functions of State governments, not the Feds.
Working people paying taxes for roads, fire departments and police protection is a normal function of any nation.
Working people paying taxes to help those who can't work is a valuable safety net.
Working people paying taxes to care for the Won't Works is Socialism.
Pay more? You do realize that the costs you pay for health care includes the money lost for the uninsured, right? You're already paying for it. Corporations do not operate at a loss. So you think you only pay for your cost of healthcare and that hospitals, doctors and everyone in the healthcare field just eats the costs of the uninsured? No, it's already baked into the costs others pay.
It's just like shoplifting. You pay more for goods that includes what stores are losing for stolen goods. Let me give you an example of ways that the cry of socialism is actually costing you money. Millions of Americans are on either medicaid or medicare. A simple solution to help cut costs is to have drug manufacturers bid on drug prices to bring those costs down. They already do this in the military to keep their costs down. We pay far more for the same drugs as our neighbors to the north. But Republicans cry socialism about it. How is actually saving billions every year in tax payer dollars socialism? Competitive bidding is what most people consider a part of capitalism. That is until the government wants to do it.
You see, you really don't mind paying for the uninsured because you already are. You just want to pick and choose who you are paying that money to. That's why auto insurance became a law. Drivers with insurance were covering the cost of uninsured drivers with higher rates and forced to pay their own damaged automobiles. That's why you have to pay extra for uninsured motorist coverage. But somehow you think healthcare is different. It's not.
This will be my last response to your trolling. If you want to talk policy or whatnot fine, but your trash posts filled with Hannity quotes aren’t worth my further effort.
Portland is safe. I have many friends raising families here. Like all big cities it has its issues. I’ll just say I know them better than you, as I live here. Where as you rely on Tucker and his ilk to tell you what Portland is or isn’t. I live here and I’m a good, hardworking, person of faith that loves my family. My friends are all very good people. Hardworking people from many backgrounds and socioeconomic levels. Most are raising, or have raised, great kids. So again your views are greatly misguided. I have no plans of leaving. I like it here. I’ve traveled enough to see what the rest of the United States had to offer before I settled. As it stands my next move will likely be out of this country upon retirement. Someplace with more affordable healthcare, a better political climate, fewer guns and gun nuts, a place with a better quality of life. I know that you likely don’t think that’s possible outside our borders but I assure you it is.
Have a day Muni. Good luck out there doing battle with everyone you feel is a libtard or whatever. What a life.
Municipal Stadium got leveled and pushed into the lake. In its place we have a newer, better, facility. - Thank You Al Lerner. Portland used to be a safe place for families to visit. Thanks to liberals it's now considered an unsafe, lawless, garbage city. I'll never go there again. It's a shame that all of the good, hardworking, people of faith and family have left Portland due to liberal politics. But hey, please stay and enjoy. If you decide to leave, I hear California and Washington are nice. - Once you get around all of that looting and taxation lol.
I certainly don't agree with this rhetoric, but it does most certainly assist in balancing out the wildly ridiculous posts made by your counterparts on here.
Working people paying taxes for roads, fire departments and police protection is a normal function of any nation.
So is healthcare for almost every industrialized nation but us.
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Working people paying taxes to care for the Won't Works is Socialism.
You already do. You just pay the sunken cost to corporations so you can call it capitalism. Your healthcare costs are high enough to pay for the money lost on the uninsured. Corporations do not operate at a loss.
Pay more? You do realize that the costs you pay for health care includes the money lost for the uninsured, right? You're already paying for it. Corporations do not operate at a loss. So you think you only pay for your cost of healthcare and that hospitals, doctors and everyone in the healthcare field just eats the costs of the uninsured? No, it's already baked into the costs others pay.
It's just like shoplifting. You pay more for goods that includes what stores are losing for stolen goods. Let me give you an example of ways that the cry of socialism is actually costing you money. Millions of Americans are on either medicaid or medicare. A simple solution to help cut costs is to have drug manufacturers bid on drug prices to bring those costs down. They already do this in the military to keep their costs down. We pay far more for the same drugs as our neighbors to the north. But Republicans cry socialism about it. How is actually saving billions every year in tax payer dollars socialism? Competitive bidding is what most people consider a part of capitalism. That is until the government wants to do it.
You see, you really don't mind paying for the uninsured because you already are. You just want to pick and choose who you are paying that money to. That's why auto insurance became a law. Drivers with insurance were covering the cost of uninsured drivers with higher rates and forced to pay their own damaged automobiles. That's why you have to pay extra for uninsured motorist coverage. But somehow you think healthcare is different. It's not.
I am sorry I disagree. If a person does not work they are not entitled to the benefits that workers get. I know folks from London England they HATE their government controlled socialized medicine. They said when you get older don't get sick. If it is not worth it because of your age they are denied medical treatment unless they can pay for it themselves. I also know in Canada products that the government deem to cause health issues are outlawed.
PitDawg, there are countries that utilize socialism. Venezuela comes to mind. Would you consider leaving the United States and moving to Venezuela? If not, why? Does the prospect of famine, depression, and outright poverty not entice you?
It's odd that you point out Venezuela while ignoring Europe and Canada who we far more closely resemble. Well actually it's not odd. It's quite expected. That's the way the right has been trying to package it for some time now.
This will be my last response to your trolling. If you want to talk policy or whatnot fine, but your trash posts filled with Hannity quotes aren’t worth my further effort.
Portland is safe. I have many friends raising families here. Like all big cities it has its issues. I’ll just say I know them better than you, as I live here. Where as you rely on Tucker and his ilk to tell you what Portland is or isn’t. I live here and I’m a good, hardworking, person of faith that loves my family. My friends are all very good people. Hardworking people from many backgrounds and socioeconomic levels. Most are raising, or have raised, great kids. So again your views are greatly misguided. I have no plans of leaving. I like it here. I’ve traveled enough to see what the rest of the United States had to offer before I settled. As it stands my next move will likely be out of this country upon retirement. Someplace with more affordable healthcare, a better political climate, fewer guns and gun nuts, a place with a better quality of life. I know that you likely don’t think that’s possible outside our borders but I assure you it is.
Have a day Muni. Good luck out there doing battle with everyone you feel is a libtard or whatever. What a life.
The case in Burlington is similar to other cities that also moved to defund last year, but have since beefed up its police department following crime increases.
"If you want to fix policing you have to hire cops, you have to train them differently and hold them accountable," Chuck Wexler, the Police Executive Research Forum’s executive director, told the Wall Street Journal last month. "The notion that taking away resources is going to improve policing is ridiculous."
Cities such as Baltimore, Portland and Oakland, California, have all moved to or already beefed up funding to police departments amid crime spikes.
"Many Portlanders no longer feel safe," Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler said last month when the city council increased the police budget by $5.2 million. "And it is our duty, as leaders of this city, to take action and deliver better results within our crisis response system."
I have no clue what you're comparing here. However, I think it's evident that the U.S. resembles a third world country now more than it did 20 years ago. If you're a fan of socialism, please move to Venezuela and get back to me after you have to resort to eating the family pet for dinner.
It's odd that you point out Venezuela while ignoring Europe and Canada who we far more closely resemble.
Mmmmm no they don't.
Huh ? You think the USA is closer to a socialist country like Venezuela than countries like the UK, Germany and Canada?
Ummmmm ....
Yeah, I mean can’t you tell??? We have an ever-increasing amount of billionaires, tax loopholes that benefit the wealthy, government-instituted corporate bailouts, tons of money that gets sent from corporations to political candidates, a widening wealth gap, M&A’s that get approval while both reducing competition and basically creating oligopolies, and ever-increasing sole source corporate suppliers to the government.
I mean, come on, man, if that isn’t socialism, I don’t know what is!
I have no clue what you're comparing here. However, I think it's evident that the U.S. resembles a third world country now more than it did 20 years ago. If you're a fan of socialism, please move to Venezuela and get back to me after you have to resort to eating the family pet for dinner.
Oh yes, NPR is a neutral rational point of reference. Why don't you use a CNN poll next time. I know a couple where the husband was born in my hometown here in the US and have lived in London since the 70's. As they would say it is not lovely!!! There is nothing good about it. Especially if you are older.
Oh yes, NPR is a neutral rational point of reference. Why don't you use a CNN poll next time.
As per usual you made a false claim. NPR didn't conduct the poll. They're simply reporting what the poll said. The poll itself was conducted by British Future. A British company polling of British citizens. I'm pretty sure where you get your news from would never report this story at all so you have to find it somewhere. I would never trust an opinion piece by NPR. But this isn't an opinion and they did not conduct the poll. But you keep doing you.
Here is some more "actual facts" from the publication the British Statesman.
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Seventy two per cent of people declared the NHS to be “a symbol of what is great about Britain and we must do everything we can to maintain it” while one in five (21 per cent) saw it as “a great project for its time, but we probably can not maintain its current form”.
The article will point out to you that any politician that would try to privatize their healthcare system would be committing political suicide. Even conservative politicians over there know that. That's wjhy they have made no effort to.
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I know a couple where the husband was born in my hometown here in the US and have lived in London since the 70's. As they would say it is not lovely!!! There is nothing good about it. Especially if you are older.
72% of those who actually live there disagree with you. I'm glad you "know a couple" but obviously only 21% of the people who live their agree with them.
I can't count how many people that I know that have turned on potato head and want our real president Trump back in his office.
You've got this entirely backwards. Nobody liked Biden. He's a joke. But they still voted for him in order to keep Trump from a second term. That's how the country can elect him while handing seats to Repubs basically nonstop.
As for the rest of your post, I found it pretty despicable.
Oh yes, NPR is a neutral rational point of reference. Why don't you use a CNN poll next time.
As per usual you made a false claim. NPR didn't conduct the poll. They're simply reporting what the poll said. The poll itself was conducted by British Future. A British company polling of British citizens. I'm pretty sure where you get your news from would never report this story at all so you have to find it somewhere. I would never trust an opinion piece by NPR. But this isn't an opinion and they did not conduct the poll. But you keep doing you.
Here is some more "actual facts" from the publication the British Statesman.
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Seventy two per cent of people declared the NHS to be “a symbol of what is great about Britain and we must do everything we can to maintain it” while one in five (21 per cent) saw it as “a great project for its time, but we probably can not maintain its current form”.
The article will point out to you that any politician that would try to privatize their healthcare system would be committing political suicide. Even conservative politicians over there know that. That's wjhy they have made no effort to.
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I know a couple where the husband was born in my hometown here in the US and have lived in London since the 70's. As they would say it is not lovely!!! There is nothing good about it. Especially if you are older.
72% of those who actually live there disagree with you. I'm glad you "know a couple" but obviously only 21% of the people who live their agree with them.
So they didn't actually say the NHS was great, but they said it's a great symbol. Sadly, while symbols are nice for propaganda, they don't always live up to their alleged ideals. I do wonder how many focus groups they went through before they figured out how to word the options to get the result they wanted.
Corporate donors gave to Manchin before announcement he wouldn't support Build Back Better: report
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Sen. Joe Manchin's (D-W.Va.) political action committee saw a surge of contributions from corporate donors in the fall before his announcement that he would not support President Biden's Build Back Better social spending package.
Biden unveiled the $1.75 trillion Build Back Better Act in October.
According to CNBC's analysis of Federal Election Commission filings, Manchin's leadership PAC, Country Roads, received 36 donations from corporations in the last two months and raised close to $260,000 in that time period.
In November, Country Roads PAC received corporate contributions in the range of $2,500 to $5,000 from donors including American Express, Goldman Sachs, Lockheed Martin, UnitedHealth Group, Blue Cross Blue Shield and CNX Resources, a natural gas company, last month, according to the news outlet.
The total amount raised last month amounted to $110,000.
Manchin's PAC raised over $150,000 in October from widely known corporations such as Verizon, Union Pacific, Wells Fargo and PACs tied to the coal and mining industries, according to CNBC.
The news comes after Manchin announced on "Fox News Sunday" that he will not vote for Biden's climate and social spending bill, most likely killing a crucial part of the administration's domestic agenda and top legislative priority.
"I cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation. I just can't. I tried everything humanly possible. I can't get there," Manchin told host Bret Baier. "This is a 'no' on this legislation."
In a statement, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said that Manchin's opposition was a surprise, adding that he went back on the framework that Biden presented to him last week.
"If his comments on Fox and written statement indicate an end to that effort, they represent a sudden and inexplicable reversal in his position, and a breach of his commitments to the president and the senator's colleagues in the House and Senate," Psaki said.
Many business groups and leaders have lobbied Manchin to oppose the social spending package, which includes provisions to combat climate change. Before announcing his opposition to the bill, Manchin came out against a number of these provisions.
Country Roads PAC also spent thousands of dollars on hotel arrangements and travel over the last two months, which includes spending more than $40,000 in November at The Greenbrier, a luxury resort that is owned by Gov. Jim Justice's (R) family, CNBC reported.
According to the FEC filing, the money was used for catering, lodging, food and beverages, CNBC noted.
Biden's popularity sinking in the White House as unhappy staffers plan post-holiday exit: report Biden and Harris are both polling underwater as the year comes to an end
Morale among staffers is reportedly low in President Biden’s White House as his first year in office comes to a close and polls show his popularity underwater with the majority of Americans.
According to a Politico report late Wednesday, White House staffers are unhappy with their jobs to the point where they anonymously leaked to the online publication in hopes that senior staffers would be alerted to the lack of comradery and overall happiness in the workplace.
"A lot of the natural coordination that happens in a typically functioning White House has been lost, and there has been no proactive effort to make up for it through intentional team building," one White House official said.
Staffers say they have struggled with virtual events and some staffers have complained that those who are "outsiders" to Biden’s inside circle and network are often left out.
Additionally, staffers say they have been left out of certain events while staffers from around the capital are invited in their stead due to a "lottery system" used to decide who comes to certain gatherings.
"It’s also hypocritical and ironic that a president whose brand is built on empathy and family has staff policies that fly in the face of that brand," one staffer said. "It’s not a good look, and it’s emblematic of how this place runs."
Many of the staffers said they are in the process of updating their resumes and will start looking for new jobs next year once the president officially hits his one-year anniversary in office.
Staffers in Vice President Kamala Harris’s office have already started heading for the exits, including her communications director Ashley Etienne and senior adviser Symone Sanders with several others reportedly planning to follow suit soon.
The unrest in the White House comes as Biden and Harris continue to be dogged by low polling numbers as Americans grapple with record inflation, soaring gas prices, supply chain issues, the omicron variant of the coronavirus, the ongoing border crisis, and rising international tensions with Russia and China.
The president stood at 43% approval and 51% disapproval in an NPR/Marist national survey released earlier this month and a separate national poll from Monmouth University indicated a 40% approval and a 50% disapproval. Some polls show Biden's approval rating even lower.
Harris fares even worse according to polling last month that showed her with a 28% approval rating.
The planet earth has not spawned a more vile person than trump.
He lied directly to the citizens of this country in a time of crisis. He admitted it. It costs hundreds of thousands of lives.
Jan 6th was one of the darkest days in the history of this country. He was behind all of it and is now trying to block the records that will verify his involvement.
He has done more damage to this country on every level that I don't even want to list it all.
He is the most incompetent president in history and the most corrupt.
In any other time in history in almost any country. He would have been hung for treason.
He's still not Trump. He could have a zero approval from the right and still be a 10 times better POTUS. There will NEVER be anybody worse than Trump as POTUS in our lifetimes.
He's still not Trump. He could have a zero approval from the right and still be a 10 times better POTUS. There will NEVER be anybody worse than Trump as POTUS in our lifetimes.
Be careful what you say. donny’s coke head, loudmouth, dolt of a son could run and there’s a lot of idiots in this country that thinks he gives a rats arse about them to gleefully pull the handle.
Hopefully, he keeps filling that hole in his heart with coke and whatever type of women it is that he dates. But I could see him running, and it would be DJT 2.0 if he were elected. Worse, if he is still doing daddy's bidding.
Biden disapproval hits new high as voters give him bad grades on economy, new CNBC/Change poll says
-President Joe Biden’s overall disapproval rating reached a new high in December as more voters signaled their unhappiness with his handling of the economy and the Covid pandemic.
-Results from a CNBC/Change Research poll show 60% of respondents said they disapprove of Biden’s handling of the economy as he nears the conclusion of his first year in office.
-A 55% majority of survey respondents also signaled disapproval of his leadership during the pandemic, an area in which he previously excelled.
One year into a four year term and you two are making proclamations. Do you leave a football game after the first quarter claiming you know which team is going to win? It sure sounds like it.
The failed president tried to overturn our election results. That was actually his final grade.
Biden disapproval hits new high as voters give him bad grades on economy, new CNBC/Change poll says
-President Joe Biden’s overall disapproval rating reached a new high in December as more voters signaled their unhappiness with his handling of the economy and the Covid pandemic.
-Results from a CNBC/Change Research poll show 60% of respondents said they disapprove of Biden’s handling of the economy as he nears the conclusion of his first year in office.
-A 55% majority of survey respondents also signaled disapproval of his leadership during the pandemic, an area in which he previously excelled.
Seems it took less than one year of Progressive Government to show it's true colors and fail. America Awakens!
First, this IS NOT a progressive government or BBB and Voting rights would have passed easily. Second, Biden is going to be okay. He can't fall any further down in popularity than his predecessor, the WORST POTUS EVER. SO when you offer two plates to the people, one with slightly moldy cheese and one with an orange turd on white bread… Well, I'd take blue cheese over a crap sandwich every time. So, your trolling just fell flat on its ass, better luck next time.
And you think he's really building a social media platform; how cute. IT'S JUST ANOTHER GRIFT, EVE. Why would any serious attempt to build a social media platform, use Devin Nunes, a farmer by trade, as the CEO? A: Because he was dumb enough to accept the position OR because he's in on the grift… He's in on it, or he would never have given up his seat of power to go there. SMH. Wake up already.
Pretty sure Trump isn't running again since he is building a new social media/media company..
Dictators around the globe control the media. This will just add one to the list.
Well, building a website doesn't mean it will be popular. He has to prove himself first. But I'm sure the CEOs of Google and Facebook and Twitter probably have some opinions about your comment.
So you actually think Trump will be spending his time running this? Trump isn't nearly as smart as the people who actually built those other social media platforms in terms of knowing anything about it. He is smart enough to hire people that can do it for him. That however in no way would prevent him from running for president.
I think he will be guiding it, and probably ruin it because of that. But I'm quite sure he won't receive the GOP nomination. I really don't think he will run again. He can either live in a world where what he says goes (his businesses) or he can live in a world where the whole world hates him (politics) Which would you choose?
It seems that the vast majority of Republican politicians are following his every word. Very few speak out against him or anything he says. The moderate Republican you mentioned is an endangered species in the party and they're certainly not popular within the base. I think he's a very ego driven person who loves power. I mean let's face it, even when he loses he thinks he won. I think if his name goes on the ballot the GOP voters will nominate him again. And I don't think his ego will permit him to stay off the ballot.
I think he will be guiding it, and probably ruin it because of that. But I'm quite sure he won't receive the GOP nomination. I really don't think he will run again. He can either live in a world where what he says goes (his businesses) or he can live in a world where the whole world hates him (politics) Which would you choose?
If he doesn't, Jr. will… There will never be a Trump in the Oval again if I can help stop it. And even if Donnie doesn't run, he still needs to pay for all the harm he has done and his traitorous acts. Until then, there will be NO healing of the divides, period.
I don't really believe that. It's a libtard speaking point, not rooted in reality.
Really? Then why is Liz Cheney still so unpopular on the right? Or Romney? Or any other right-winger that opposes Trump?
And at this point, we aren't just fighting to keep DJT out of office, we are battling 'Trumpism', the brain eating disease that seems to have infected 70 million pathetic people… unless those people are the infestation... Either way, it's time for an extermination.
I think Trumpism is a disease that infects the left. He's widely unpopular. There is no chance he will be re-elected. The people vote presidents in, not the politicians.
I used to think more of you. Now, it would be hard to think less. So sad watching an otherwise good and promising person, ate up with all this right wing hate and misinformation. I have never been as gullible as you seem to be Eve, it must be hard. People can accuse me of being idealistic or naive for wanting a government that gives a crap about regular people, but they will never justify calling me gullible or dumb. Why would you paint yourself in those colors?
Oh boo hoo. Stop being a scaredy cat about Trump and get over him already. He persists in society because people like you won't let him fade away. You can call me right wing names, but you have never seen me bring up Trump unless it's to tell you to get over it. You act braindamaged about it.
Trump might fade, but will Trumpism? I mean, you are practicing that right here and now. It's easy to see, if you are even slightly intelligent. You might be missing it, but the greater world is not.
Trump might fade, but will Trumpism? I mean, you are practicing that right here and now. It's easy to see, if you are even slightly intelligent. You might be missing it, but the greater world is not.
You think that anyone who disagrees with you and isn't a raging radical leftist must be a Trumpian.
Hmm, really? I disagree with Pit all the time. Several others that are not Trump supporting waste as well. You seem to be projecting here. Sucks when somebody calls you out and nails you, huh? Especially when you can't do ish about it but prove them correct. Go get your troll on Eve. I'm tired of spanking you today.
Reporters and other shoppers took out their frustration on Twitter by sharing photos of their local grocery stores and tagging #BareShelvesBiden, which began trending.
Great. I guess the question I have is approval for what?
I didn't go through all of the tweets, but it wasn't stated in the first few.
I am not trying to be a contrarian, but it is helpful to understand the context. Not to be smug, but they might have been commenting on birthday cake flavors.
Yes, I am 99.9% sure they weren't talking about cake. I only say that to illustrate the point.
That is why I don't live in the twitter world, especially when it comes to politics. Also, does it not fall in the face of conventional wisdom that Fox was the highest rating?
So you have no idea of the context but cast doubt on the numbers. Then claim you're not trying to be a contrarian? Most polls on approval ratings are just that. Your appoval of the job a president is doing.
You do realize they're pretty much the same poll numbers Trump had during his presidency, right? Unless of course you wish to claim the outlier and ignore the others.
Trump during his presidency rated at 41.1% by Gallop.
Who cares about President Trump's numbers. There is nothing we can do about them and they don't matter today. Presidents Reagans numbers were pretty darn good, but so what? That doesn't mean squat today or tomorrow.
It wasn't me who claimed his numbers were bad because he was "doing a bad job" and then go on to try to ignore even worse numbers for Trump. That would be you.
You see, over half of republicans think the election was stolen. Nothing Biden can do will change that. So the job he is doing has nothing to do with a large portion of people not approving of him.
If you're going to point fingers at Biden's approval rating, at least step up and own that Trump did even worse. Or not as it seems you have chosen to do.
OF COURSE HE'S WORRIED ABOUT WHO COUNTS THE VOTES! You can't partisan GOPers in charge of deciding who is POTUS and who is not. We need fair vote counting and everybody able to vote. It's not rocket science, and your mock confusion shtick is old.
Oh, so who's counting the votes only matters.........when?
When republicans OR ANY one party think they should control it all and override the other party's or parties' vote. You know, the crap republicans are setting up for at the local level all over the country. If Trump were to win under those shady ass conditions; we'd burn this country to the ground rather than let them have it.
Before you let the fascists overrun your country? Damn right, I'd burn it down. And the fighting side of me hopes you feel the same, but you will probably support the seditionists.
Before you let the fascists overrun your country? Damn right, I'd burn it down. And the fighting side of me hopes you feel the same, but you will probably support the seditionists.
Oh, so who's counting the votes only matters.........when?
When republicans OR ANY one party think they should control it all and override the other party's or parties' vote. You know, the crap republicans are setting up for at the local level all over the country. If Trump were to win under those shady ass conditions; we'd burn this country to the ground rather than let them have it.
Oh, so who's counting the votes only matters.........when?
When republicans OR ANY one party think they should control it all and override the other party's or parties' vote. You know, the crap republicans are setting up for at the local level all over the country. If Trump were to win under those shady ass conditions; we'd burn this country to the ground rather than let them have it.
And that is why you and like people are dangerous. If you don't get your way you throw a tantrum.
And that is why you and like people are dangerous. If you don't get your way you throw a tantrum.
Pitiful.
Just like Jan. 6th huh?
And just to clue in the clueless. When voting laws are passed that allows a state senate to overturn the election results, yes you should be worried about it. And yet another clue. There have been people from both parties where the votes have been counted to make sure that there are no discrepancies. So yes, you better be damned sure they both parties are in the process.
You guys keep advocating laws be stricter to stop fraud that isn't even happening to make it harder for people to vote. It's sad.
Nobody tried to overturn a presidential election other than Trump supporters on Jan. 6th. They're the only one's that tried to "burn the country down". A concept some have yet to comprehend.
18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
Biden's agenda has been one big failure after another. Why? He ran a campaign that promised to be moderate. Then after elected thought he was Bernie Sanders!
As if donny would be doing anything about Russian aggression towards the Ukraine. donny would be in TV bloviating on Putin and how strong of a leader he is.
Is NATO doing anything regarding the Russia-Ukraine situation? Isn't this type of situation the entire reason why NATO exists?
You won't hear me say this often, but I agree with Trump back when he was strong-arming NATO. I'm getting really tired of being the world's police. Part of that is us thinking we are the shining beacon superheros for the world, but the other part is other countries content to sit back and watch and not being held accountable for NOT doing their part.
I say let Europe sort out its own issues. We have enough here at home to keep ourselves busy. Nothing is gained by talking tough, fake or otherwise.
Ukraine isn't a member of NATO. But Europe has much more at stake here than we do. We however are a part of NATO and as such should work with them on this issue. Like yourself I think they should certainly be as big or a bigger part of it than we are. But the lessons learned from WW1 and WW2 certainly dictate we shouldn't just stand on the sidelines.
Notice how the war mongers on the board seem to act like we should help start WW3? They won't be going there. What a brave lot they are.
Ukraine isn't a member of NATO. But Europe has much more at stake here than we do. We however are a part of NATO and as such should work with them on this issue. Like yourself I think they should certainly be as big or a bigger part of it than we are. But the lessons learned from WW1 and WW2 certainly dictate we shouldn't just stand on the sidelines.
Notice how the war mongers on the board seem to act like we should help start WW3? They won't be going there. What a brave lot they are.
I don't think there a5re any war mongers just those that think Putin sees Biden as weak! His remarks were definitely weak. His actions in Afghanistan were weak. And, one has to wonder if Russia sees him as weak what does China see him as. He is already their puppet. Taiwan cannot feel very secure. That is for sure.
Heck, he is weak on crime here so why would foreign policy be any different?
No surprise - but I agree. They have gotten lazy and seemed content to just let us do a lion’s share of everything while they kind of sign off on things from time to time. They definitely need to pay their fair share and contribute more. The funny thing is when we actually “led from behind” when they were doing the air strikes on Libya, it was kind of a disaster because they weren’t used to taking the lead.
As far as the current issue, it’s always “The Who” and not “the what.” I’d be willing to bet my house on a large majority of people both on this board and nationwide flipping their stances if the same exact events unfolded and it was Trump instead of Biden.
It’s easy to spot, too, because all you have to do is ask one or two simple questions to find out which stances are based on preconceived notions instead of objective rationale.
Skyrocketing inflation Skyrocketing crime border in crisis Afghanistan Russia about to invade Ukraine
There is more but no need to go on
How does this correlate to Bernie Sanders, which is what your original statement was?
He has not led as a moderate Liberal Democrat. He has led like a far left progressive Democrat like Bernie. That is why he cannot get moderates in his party to sign off on his policies let alone reach across the table and get bi-partison support. Like he promised! LOL!!!
Yes, the deal trump made to withdraw from Afghanistan was weak. Especially when he decided to negotiate with the terrorists while locking the Afghan government out of the negotiations.
US general says Afghanistan collapse rooted in Trump-Taliban deal
Head of US Central Command says collapse of the Afghan government can be traced to US troop withdrawal deal.
Yes, the deal trump made to withdraw from Afghanistan was weak. Especially when he decided to negotiate with the terrorists while locking the Afghan government out of the negotiations.
US general says Afghanistan collapse rooted in Trump-Taliban deal
Head of US Central Command says collapse of the Afghan government can be traced to US troop withdrawal deal.
I wonder why you weren't enraged by this when Trump was president?
Democrats are a special breed. You literally take no responsibility for anything. Biden is President what happens during his Presidency he owns it!!!
Trump has to own the murder rate in 2020 as a whole. But, the vast majority of the murders are in large Democratic cities with terrible Democratic District Attorneys weal on crime. Progressive policies are destructive. If anything is a threat to democracy progressive policies are the threat. Ronald Reagan once said if Fascism ever came to the United States in would come in the form of Liberalism. Guess what it is here!!!
Here's what you're dong and refuse to admit it. Crime was out of control when Trump was president. It wasn't just in the cities. But suddenly, when we have a democrat as president, then you decide to talk about it. Then you decide to point fingers. Then you decide to concentrate talking about the cities when crime is rising just as fast in many rural areas. Then you talk about other people having an agenda.
Yeah, the demoocrats tried to overthrow the election. I'm pretty sure Reagan didn't see that coming and was rolling over in his grave when it did. Trump is no Reagan.
Here's what you're dong and refuse to admit it. Crime was out of control when Trump was president. It wasn't just in the cities. But suddenly, when we have a democrat as president, then you decide to talk about it. Then you decide to point fingers. Then you decide to concentrate talking about the cities when crime is rising just as fast in many rural areas. Then you talk about other people having an agenda.
Yeah, the demoocrats tried to overthrow the election. I'm pretty sure Reagan didn't see that coming and was rolling over in his grave when it did. Trump is no Reagan.
What happened on January 6th last year was a disgrace. I think Trump was frustrated and did not go about the election loss correctly. I do think that shady things happened within the law that caused the loss. Early voting, and mail in voting, not showing ID. These are all legal ways of cheating. I think Bob Dole said it best in his own written eulogy when he said he hopes he does not vote in the next election. That is another issue I have with early voting. If a person votes on October 20 and dies before Nov. whatever is election day. That vote should not count. Dead people do not get to vote. There used to be rules to voting and I think we need to go back to having rules.
Here are the times the polls are open x to y.
Show your ID
Here is your ballot
Now vote.
Everyone knows ahead of time the rules and they should apply. What we have now is chaos. Trump said he was cheated. Biden is already saying if new election laws are not passed 2022 will be illegitimate. Rules are needed and rules need to be followed.
Ballot comes in the mail with a pamphlet of information about the candidates and various ballot measures. I sit and take time to read and do a little research. Have a cup of coffee. Fill out my ballot at my leisure. Sign my ballot. Then take said ballot to the nearest drop site.
No lines. No time off work. No travel. Done.
The entire country should give it a try. You’ll never go back to the lines. Trust me.
So no actual mass voter fraud could be found after several recounts and even reviews by biased companies like Cyber Ninja's couldn't find anything and you still call it "shady"? Oregon has actually had mail in only voting since 1996. Five states were actually holding entirely mail in voting before the pandemic..... Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Utah. Twenty-nine states and Washington D.C. allowed “no excuse” mail-in absentee voting.
There were no issues. No mass voter fraud. No problems. But ever since "the big lie" false accusations have been made and now it's all "shady"? This is what it looks like when people make excuses to make voting stricter based on a made up problem that simply doesn't exist.
Skyrocketing inflation Skyrocketing crime border in crisis Afghanistan Russia about to invade Ukraine
There is more but no need to go on
How does this correlate to Bernie Sanders, which is what your original statement was?
He has not led as a moderate Liberal Democrat. He has led like a far left progressive Democrat like Bernie. That is why he cannot get moderates in his party to sign off on his policies let alone reach across the table and get bi-partison support. Like he promised! LOL!!!
You are once again making generalized statements based on preconceived notions without actually discussing specifics of the issue. Manchin and Sinema are not the only moderate democrats in the caucus. In fact, if Trump were a Democrat, I’m pretty sure he’d refer to them as DINOs. Progressives are actually disappointed with a lot of the things Biden has not yet done, such as student loans. Look at Bernie’s platform and run a comparison of what he advocates vs what Biden has actually introduced or advocated for.
Your argument unravels very quickly.
In fact, I have several qualms with some of the ideas being contemplated, but to say Biden is turning into Bernie Sanders is akin to calling someone like Kinzinger a liberal. The notion is just dumb.
How about this. If what you mentioned gets my guy elected, it’s a great system and works very well. But if it gets your guy elected, then it’s fraud. Deal?
Because of Obama's weakness, Putin took Crimea. Because of Trump's strength, Putin stood down for 4 years. Because of Trump's strength, Kim stopped launching missiles over Japan. He stopped threatening Nuclear War on everyone. Because of Biden's weakness, Kim is back at it again. Because of Biden's weakness, Putin looks like he may take Ukraine.
Oh, I'm sure he did even if it was just some taxpayer's funds to get it up and running. This semiconductor shortage is a huge national security concern.
Look! Bad black people in a dem city! Somebody needs to protect them southern white ladies from the bad black people, because FOX news set my hair on fire!
I just watched the Emmett Till and his mother Mamie Till Bradley's story. You sound a lot like the white shopkeeper. Nothing is ever going to change until YOU PEOPLE start treating others as fully human and deserving of basic human decency. It's streaming on ABC along with a documentary explaining the story in even more detail. You should watch them if you can find time. It's better than being gas lit by Neo Putin Loving Nazi Tucker Carlson. Stop being their lemming, and stop running with the Trumpian GOPer herd trying to run America over the cliff. It's time to be a real American.
Wrong. You posted yet another hair on fire Faux News rant about blacks, BLM, libs, and Biden. But you did it after reading an article about a black man setting his girlfriend on fire. You've made random rants about blacks forever and use your personal tragic experience as a baseline to judge all blacks. It's becoming a pattern.
Can you even read? You just make up crap as you go. Not one place in my post did I mention blacks. The PEOPLE who do the crimes need to be held accountable. But hateful racist libtards continually make it about race. And then you use race to give them a pass. When CRIMINALS need to be held accountable. So stfu.
Can you even read? You just make up crap as you go. Not one place in my post did I mention blacks. The PEOPLE who do the crimes need to be held accountable. But hateful racist libtards continually make it about race. And then you use race to give them a pass. When CRIMINALS need to be held accountable. So stfu.
And SHAME on you to try to make this about my personal experience with being assaulted in my home. Youre disgusting.
I am not. I did not 'use' anything. You have on numerous occasions shared bits of that here, and you are usually on a rant about something to do with blacks when you do it. 100% TRUTH, with no shame. I'm sorry you had that experience, but it jaded you.
Also, your post did not say anything about blacks, the article that triggered you, that you linked to your post does. Then you tried to use alt-right blah blah to 'encode' your rant.
BTW – just so we're straight, you disgust me more often than not. Have a good night.
Of course, if he set his GF on fire. But that has nothing to do with Biden or libs, or the Biden Agenda… Every POTUS ever had heinous crimes committed by citizens while in office? Is Trump responsible for George Floyd's death? Was that his agenda? NOPE. SO just stop and admit it, blacks committing crimes trigger you, at least be honest with yourself.
It happens on his watch. He's responsible. The acceptance of skyrocketing crime by liberal mayors and govenors is his problem to deal with. Instead he does nothing.
If California burns down tomorrow at the hands of its citizens, are you going to be content that Biden sits around with his thumbs up his butt?
It happens on his watch. He's responsible. The acceptance of skyrocketing crime by liberal mayors and govenors is his problem to deal with. Instead he does nothing.
No, no, no, Eve.
All crime in the history of crime is Trump's fault. Even crime from before he was born.
Defund the police! Burn down businesses and or loot them! Take what you want from trains! Let criminals who do heinous crimes walk free!
Biden's America!
Not a damn thing in that article says this guy is a dem or lib. Nothing says Biden let him go. He had a rap sheet, is the only thing I could find that remotely connects to Biden letting him walk free. NOPE. She can act like I'm off my meds all she wants, the article triggered her, and she posted a fox news-ish rant about politics… WTH? So, here you come, telling her it's because I blame Trump for everything… after I just made a posts saying crime happens under every POTUS and TRUMP was not responsible for crimes he didn't commit. But I'm off my meds. And I mentioned her personal tragic experience trying to NOT throw any details out for those who have never heard it. What happened to her was tragic, it jaded her, and I get that, but that wasn't on dems or libs or Biden either. Her post was actually just short of imbecilic, close to a throw post. I like sparring with her, and know how she thinks… this post was not like her. She was triggered. And I called that out, that is all.
BTW – Fox News is now the Russian sponsored TV white supremacy/fascist propaganda and Jim Crow News channel, thanks to Cucker Tarlson and friends. ZERO Fox News articles have credibility now. And posting anything from there makes you look bad. Very bad.
Lmao, the only one triggered is you. Nobody can call out Biden and Biden's America without you posting a bunch of trash. All of those things I posted are happening in America and some of them are libtard talking points. You just cant handle that the Dems are driving this country into the ground with its policies. You try to make personal jabs at me instead of dealing with the actual issues at hand.
Typical BS from libtards. Deflecting and whataboutisms.
I cant wait for midterms. You will find out how the whole country thinks Dem policies are a fail. Especially people living in the crime-ridden cities.
BTW – Fox News is now the Russian sponsored TV white supremacy/fascist propaganda and Jim Crow News channel, thanks to Cucker Tarlson and friends. ZERO Fox News articles have credibility now. And posting anything from there makes you look bad. Very bad.
I'll be sure to post more Fox articles with their inconvienent truths about how Dem policies are a FAIL.
Lmao, the only one triggered is you. Nobody can call out Biden and Biden's America without you posting a bunch of trash. All of those things I posted are happening in America and some of them are libtard talking points. You just cant handle that the Dems are driving this country into the ground with its policies. You try to make personal jabs at me instead of dealing with the actual issues at hand.
Typical BS from libtards. Deflecting and whataboutisms.
I cant wait for midterms. You will find out how the whole country thinks Dem policies are a fail. Especially people living in the crime-ridden cities.
Nah, I'm done arguing. You got triggered, and now you want to make a thing out of it. I DON'T CARE. The rest of your libtard talk is all just hate rhetoric, your go to when you are getting schooled. But I do want you to know, seriously, that I wasn't trying to hurt you when I talked about your past. I was only pointing out the obvious and trying not to tip my hand at what I was talking about. I'm sorry if you felt that was an attack, because I would not attack you like that with that. And you know damn well I would never intentionally hurt you like that. We've had far too many chats in forums and private messages for you to think that of me. I might get after your politics, your lifestyle, your southern ways, or your 2010 model Comet290 broom stick But I would never attack your personal tragedies. And you do you, but I'm out for now.
Lmao, the only one triggered is you. Nobody can call out Biden and Biden's America without you posting a bunch of trash. All of those things I posted are happening in America and some of them are libtard talking points. You just cant handle that the Dems are driving this country into the ground with its policies. You try to make personal jabs at me instead of dealing with the actual issues at hand.
Typical BS from libtards. Deflecting and whataboutisms.
I cant wait for midterms. You will find out how the whole country thinks Dem policies are a fail. Especially people living in the crime-ridden cities.
Oh, I hope the right takes both houses. Then at least we can blame them for obstruction and not just doing nothing. 'Do nothings, due nothing' are who Republicans are now. But I guess that's what you should expect out of a bunch of know nothing conspiracy theorist, bigots, fascists, and imbeciles. But you are correct on one point, dems aren't getting the job done. And we might go back and forth in congressional seats until we have a padded super majority, so we can govern. Progressives have been watching, and there is a plan in place for when the house fails to the GOP. The plan is to do them they way they do us. Give them nothing, no votes, no favors, no exceptions, not a goddam thing.
But you will never hold the White House again, until the Trumpism is gone, and the threat of Jim Crow Fascism is gone. There are too many patriotic Americans from both sides to let that happen again. I'll take all the money you want to bet on that.
Biden is extremely unpopular due to the multitude of major problems this country is having. If he runs again, all the GOP has to do is put forth a moderate likeable candidate and they will win.
Defund the police! Burn down businesses and or loot them! Take what you want from trains! Let criminals who do heinous crimes walk free!
Biden's America!
Not a damn thing in that article says this guy is a dem or lib. Nothing says Biden let him go. He had a rap sheet, is the only thing I could find that remotely connects to Biden letting him walk free. NOPE. She can act like I'm off my meds all she wants, the article triggered her, and she posted a fox news-ish rant about politics… WTH? So, here you come, telling her it's because I blame Trump for everything… after I just made a posts saying crime happens under every POTUS and TRUMP was not responsible for crimes he didn't commit. But I'm off my meds. And I mentioned her personal tragic experience trying to NOT throw any details out for those who have never heard it. What happened to her was tragic, it jaded her, and I get that, but that wasn't on dems or libs or Biden either. Her post was actually just short of imbecilic, close to a throw post. I like sparring with her, and know how she thinks… this post was not like her. She was triggered. And I called that out, that is all.
Ahh, so you mentioning it without going into details, makes it all acceptable. Now I get it. Thanks for telling us all about Eve... err, without telling us all about Eve. (I'm getting confused)
Still struggling to find anything she said about black people. Can you point that out??
The fact that he is trying to belittle my opinions as due to something unrelated that happened 30 years ago is mysogynist and sexist.
I had no clue it happened that long ago and I don't need a sexist or misogynistic reason/motivation to belittle you for your dumbass libertarian opinions. And since you went there, I'll just be straight with you. I've heard your opinions and seen these outbursts from you before. And I read almost all of your post in PP where race is frequently discussed. And even though you've claimed to live around and be cool with blacks, you've numerous times come across as a bigot. That offends me, but I like you and wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt. Then I heard you (read) talking about your assault. My bad for thinking you might get triggered by your past trauma, when you come across as a bigot, from now on I'll just know the answer.
The fact that he is trying to belittle my opinions as due to something unrelated that happened 30 years ago is mysogynist and sexist.
QFT.
100% unacceptable.
100% TROLL. I've done all the explaining I'll do on that. If she really believes that I had misogynistic or sexist reasoning she should ask for me to get a lifetime ban. But she knows damn well I didn't.
Calling me a misogynist when you know I'm not isn't going to shut me down. How many times have you called me a good guy? Or thanked me for reaching out to you in pms? Or told others you like me (as a person) and/or said something to the effect that you like going head-to-head because I'm more challenging/fun? Yet, you're going to cry misogynist against me? smdh.
And then come back with a trolling ass post like this. Have you forgotten the last time we butted heads? Well it ended the same way this time is going to end. Shut up.
The fact that he is trying to belittle my opinions as due to something unrelated that happened 30 years ago is mysogynist and sexist.
I had no clue it happened that long ago and I don't need a sexist or misogynistic reason/motivation to belittle you for your dumbass libertarian opinions. And since you went there, I'll just be straight with you. I've heard your opinions and seen these outbursts from you before. And I read almost all of your post in PP where race is frequently discussed. And even though you've claimed to live around and be cool with blacks, you've numerous times come across as a bigot. That offends me, but I like you and wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt. Then I heard you (read) talking about your assault. My bad for thinking you might get triggered by your past trauma, when you come across as a bigot, from now on I'll just know the answer.
Hold the line, this gets even better...
Eve hurt your feelings in the past... so you figured you would take this opportunity to call her racist for a post that had nothing to do with race?!
The fact that he is trying to belittle my opinions as due to something unrelated that happened 30 years ago is mysogynist and sexist.
I had no clue it happened that long ago and I don't need a sexist or misogynistic reason/motivation to belittle you for your dumbass libertarian opinions. And since you went there, I'll just be straight with you. I've heard your opinions and seen these outbursts from you before. And I read almost all of your post in PP where race is frequently discussed. And even though you've claimed to live around and be cool with blacks, you've numerous times come across as a bigot. That offends me, but I like you and wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt. Then I heard you (read) talking about your assault. My bad for thinking you might get triggered by your past trauma, when you come across as a bigot, from now on I'll just know the answer.
Hold the line, this gets even better...
Eve hurt your feelings in the past... so you figured you would take this opportunity to call her racist for a post that had nothing to do with race?!
I'm just adding to the thread. Youre acting creepy tonight.
OK. Let me draw it in crayon for you.
You read an article from Fox News about a black man in Detroit, setting his girlfriend on fire.
Then you came to the political forum and posted the article with a rant from you about Biden and some other gibberish.
Meanwhile, the article has NOTHING to do with politics. It was a horrific crime and a tragedy for the victims, but in noway was your rant remotely relevant.
I question it, see you were obviously triggered by the article and I MADE a logical leap to what I thought might be the reason you were triggered. I even tried to be careful not to tip others off to what I was alluding too, exactly. But I put it out there just the same.
Well I should have known being game day that you are probably getting sauced, but then I triggered you. Here we are, according to you, now I'm sexist, misogynist, and creepy...
Defund the police! Burn down businesses and or loot them! Take what you want from trains! Let criminals who do heinous crimes walk free!
Biden's America!
Yet you still haven't explained how the topic of that article has anything to do with defunding the police, riots, looting trains, letting criminals walk free, and Biden? Did an article about a black man in Detroit setting his girlfriend on fire not trigger or cause you to make this post? Are you just blaming Biden for everything, like you often accuse me of doing to Trump? What exactly about the article made you want to post it in the Biden's Agenda thread? Trolling? Triggered? "Sharing" your opinion?
Oh, you already called it your opinion. So your opinion is bad black man in Detroit, hate the left, hate Biden, hate on OCD for pointing it out and mentioning something personal, back to hate on Biden.
You don't need to respond, my questions mostly rhetorical and your answers will just be more BS.
Ok, slow poke, let me connect the dots for you since you are clueleess. The point of the article (it went over your head) is that this criminal with a rap sheet did a heinous crime to his pregnant girlfriend and got off on 10% bond. It should have been 50K but was knocked down to 5K. So now his criminal ass is out free while his girlfriend is in ICU and the babies might die.
It is Dem agenda to let criminals out on bond cheaply, lesser charges, do less time/no time.
It's unconscionable that this guy is walking around free.
This is #4 on my list. I was making a list because there are SO MANY THINGS WRONG in this country and I didn't even get close to listing them all.
You're the racist that is making it about race. You make everything about race. That's the libtard mantra. "If you say something I don't like, you must be a racist, facsist, trumpian etc " BS The head libtard Biden basically said this in his speech the other week.
ok, let's say I buy that 100%. The left's agenda to do that never became law that I'm aware of, and it was mostly for the indigent, iirc. But I get your point that the left was talking about it. And I agree that there is a lot of wrong in this country, especially now. But tell me how a guy 1 year into his administration caused any of it as POTUS? I'm no fan of Biden, but he has worked to do a hell of a lot more than I ever thought he would. I agree and like some, maybe even most, but he's no progressive and the ONLY thing he has passed was a bipartisan infrastructure bill and bipartisan shut down recovery/pandemic aid bill. Were either of those bad? And he has repeatedly asked republicans to be involved in governing and legislating as the minority, but they've decided to do nothing at THIS TIME for Americans. They will show up like Johnny on the spot for corporate interests, but that is all. Meanwhile, you and many on the right are laying it at Biden's feet. We also have two Senators who flipped parties but never told the Dems to make it official. So none of Biden's populist agenda will ever be passed and unless the right run's on Trump or Trumpism, 2024 could be close. So yeah, I'm not kicking Biden while he's down, and I'm not buying into the falsehoods and propaganda of the right-wingers that just attempted a coup either.
Your post just did not read that way to me. I don't read or watch fox at all, so maybe I don't get your mindset, or maybe our views are so different that I missed what triggered you in the article. Guess we'll call it a misunderstanding and move on. But you are still a trolling right-winger nut job. And shut up.
EDIT: BTW, my special med are kicking in on high gear, so I'm done for tonight. But this isn't over by a long shot. Guess I'll have to kick your butt twice the next time, rhetorically speaking of course.
But this is belongs to Biden because the buck stops with him and he is a Dem, so he influences their agenda. Don't say he doesn't because he absolutely does.
He makes divisive remarks to further the liberal agenda all the time.
If he felt any of these issues I mentioned were getting out of hand then he can assign people *coughHarriscough* to go deal with it. But no, he is all too happy it's playing out this way.
An agenda is nothing but words unless it gets done. Biden is not going to pass a damn thing that is not approved of by Mitch McConnell. He can't even reel in his two senatorial lost causes to pass a spending bill with 50 votes, all while said bill has a 70-80% approval rating across both parties! So Biden won't be getting anything done, like Obama after Obamacare.
But on voting rights I'll defend what he said, tomorrow. Because patriotic republicans should want fair and open elections where everybody's vote counts, anything less is Un-American. And all these new GOPer voting laws can not stand. Period.
How did he "rebuild the military"? As a contracting officer and price analyst for the USAF, I'm interested to hear what you come up with.
I'd also like to hear what your thoughts are on the recent Transdigm hearings. I'm sure you've kept up to date with it, since you are following military spending.
Without getting into too many specifics such as colors of money and whatnot, I'll just say this:
1. That's an editorial.
2. An increase in spending does not correlate to an increase in capabilities. That's why I mentioned Transdigm. Many of our sole source contractors sadly see the defense budget primarily as an increase to their bottom line. Transdigm is Exhibit A, where an inspector general audit found the smoking gun where they are living below the Truth in Negotiations Act threshold in a lot of their contracts (which was raised as a part of the 2018 NDAA from $750K to $2M - and the contractors are lobbying to raise it again), and making exhorbitant profit margins (in the 1,000%+ in some cases) and that was just a review of 3% of their business portfolio during a certain time frame. They also exploit a commerciality exception for things over the TINA threshold in order to provide refusal to give the Government the cost data necessary to make sure the tax payers are not getting screwed over. The leverage they have is that - if we don't pay the exorbitant prices - our troops don't get supplied. If you extrapolate the amount of money that the IG audit indicates should be repaid to the entire portfolio, they would have made around $700M in excess profits. That's just one company.
3. General Mattis was actually someone who I liked, and appreciated as a DoD Secretary, because he understood more of the ins and outs of balancing spending and capability, but sadly we all know how that ended due to the Syria debacle. After Mattis stepped down, he was replaced by Mark Esper, who - wait for it - was a lobbyist for Raytheon. Awesome! We invited the fox to run the hen house.
4. Another person in the DoD who actually was trying to get better value for the money being spent was a guy by the name of Shay Assad, who actually empowered acquisition personnel in the military (the people acquiring the capabilities) to obtain more information to hold contractors and suppliers accountable and make sure that we had more leverage in our negotiations. Because of that, he was dubbed "the most hated man in the Pentagon" because contractors did not like the leverage he provided to the military in negotiations. Well, unfortunately, the powers that be in the defense lobby had him canceled during the last administration.
I could go on and on for days probably. Anyhow, one of the biggest reasons China is catching up to us - besides the fact they steal technologies - is the fact that they get a much better value for the money they spend. We have a moribund joke in the acquisition community with the way the defense lobby works that "We will get to buy less with more!" (the opposite of the supposed mantra). Due to the nature of our sole source acquisitions and companies like the one I just mentioned, we pay waaaay too much money for the return we get. If companies in China tried to pull the same thing, I'm pretty sure their execs would all be arrested and "vanish." That's an asymmetrical issue for us.
And please don't actually take this the wrong way. I'm not trying to say Trump bad and Biden good. Nothing is getting solved on that front right now. Obama's administration sucked at it, too. In fact, Chuck Hagel might be the worst DoD Secretary of my lifetime. That all being said, Trump did not rebuild the military. He was another person who perpetuated and exacerbated a problem we have with our military spending. Modern day Republicans hold themselves up as budget hawks, but - for whatever reason - love turning a blind eye to the corporate welfare and cash cow that our military budget has become. I want nothing more than to increase our capabilities and keep our force innovative, but we currently exist in an asymmetrical environment where our industry counterparts are driven primarily by their duties to their shareholders. This causes the proverbial greedy hogs.
"I’m not joking when I say this: If you’re ever working with me and I hear you treat another colleague with disrespect or talk down to someone, I promise you, I will fire you on the spot — on the spot. No ifs ands or buts." "Everybody is entitled to be treated with decency and dignity."
"I’m not joking when I say this: If you’re ever working with me and I hear you treat another colleague with disrespect or talk down to someone, I promise you, I will fire you on the spot — on the spot. No ifs ands or buts." "Everybody is entitled to be treated with decency and dignity."
"I’m not joking when I say this: If you’re ever working with me and I hear you treat another colleague with disrespect or talk down to someone, I promise you, I will fire you on the spot — on the spot. No ifs ands or buts." "Everybody is entitled to be treated with decency and dignity."
-President Joseph Biden
pfft
That is typical lefty. Rules apply to common folks and not them elitists. Like wearing masks, protecting self with fire arms, educating their children with better schools than public education can offer, that being rich is a bad thing when all of them are filthy rich. They follow a do as I say and not as I do philosophy. Benn caught in the act numerous time and like dumb sheep have the same followers believing in them.
So you're going to ignore the last sentence in that quote because of the definition of colleague (not mention 'or talk down to someone' after 'colleague')?
That handling of the press is approaching Trump-level.
Putting his comment in context is the only thing I did. And no, a one time comment is no comparison to Trump's almost daily attacks on the press. Not even close. Let me know when Biden tells us that the press is the "enemy of the people". Let me know when he for no reason at all verbally attacks the press at a political rally where thousands of people have already been riled up and angered. Trump attacked the press almost in its entirety for over four years. This was a single reporter in a single incident. Let's not make ludicrous comparisons.
I didn't say Biden declared the press the enemy of the people. I said what he said is approaching Trump level. "stupid sonnofa..." is unbelievably unprofessional, and (IMO) a dark stain on the person that's been charged (and ran on the platform of) bringing humanity and respect back to the office.
For someone who basically ran on the platform of "I'm better than Trump", being just barely better than Trump at something just isn't going to cut it.
I didn't say Biden declared the press the enemy of the people. I said what he said is approaching Trump level. "stupid sonnofa..." is unbelievably unprofessional, and (IMO) a dark stain on the person that's been charged (and ran on the platform of) bringing humanity and respect back to the office.
For someone who basically ran on the platform of "I'm better than Trump", being just barely better than Trump at something just isn't going to cut it.
He is not barely better than Trump. He is more like a dementia patient at a Nursing home that lashes out in a fit of anger and curse words. It is sad that the Dems prop this man up on stage like weekend at Bernie's. How many times does he have to call Harris President Harris or how many times does he have to say I am not in charge before people realize he is a puppet President. It is more elder abuse what is happening to this man.
For someone who basically ran on the platform of "I'm better than Trump", being just barely better than Trump at something just isn't going to cut it.
So you consider a single comment when comparing it to well over four years of attack on the press "barely better"? If so we certainly have a different understanding of what "barely better" means.
So, just so were clear, you're fine with POTUS calling a reporter a "stupid son of a bitch" when he asks a question he doesn't like?
And the reasoning is, Trump was worse?
GET A LIFE. That jackass Doocy deserves everything he gets. The last 6-7 posters starting with 40s lame ass quote, lashing out at Biden for this sat quietly as Trump called reporters enemies of the state and fake news. Now you freak out for this, give it a rest. Biden is a doddering old fool, he's mouthy as hell, and one of the last people from the 2020 race that I would have actually wanted to be elected; but when he does something to end our democracy, commits high crimes and misdemeanors, lies like Trump, or does anything truly horrific like abandoning allies on the battlefield… then I will join in the condemning, but this? Nah, not even a blip on the radar of shocked by a political figure. Honestly, after Trump, complaining about this makes y'all look like snowflakes.
Well Biden has only been in office for 1 year, so that alone suggests looking at individual incidents individually.
Is Trump really the standard? Do future presidents really only have to be marginally better than arguably the worst leader this world has ever seen? Because that's what I'm getting from your comments here.... He has an out as far as criticism for this type of behavior because "worst ever" spot is already taken.
I thought that I made it clear when I stated " There is a difference between "being fine with it" and trying to compare the two. Just so we're clear. "
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Well Biden has only been in office for 1 year, so that alone suggests looking at individual incidents individually.
So at this point in time in office, Trump had been attacking the press pretty much ever since he announced he was running for office and Biden has a single isolated incident and you wish to look at incidents individually? You can't be serious.
I'm not happy that he made that comment. I thought it was wrong. But I think you must look at the people making a stink about it. These are the same people who applauded trump for almost five years while he was doing the same thing on the daily. And I didn't hear them saying he was wrong.
Well Biden has only been in office for 1 year, so that alone suggests looking at individual incidents individually.
Is Trump really the standard? Do future presidents really only have to be marginally better than arguably the worst leader this world has ever seen? Because that's what I'm getting from your comments here… He has an out as far as criticism for this type of behavior because "worst ever" spot is already taken.
I hate to admit it, but yes, when dealing with the right's attacking talking points about Biden, Trump set the bar for bad behavior from a POTUS very LOW. And they were cool with that. Hell, the Trumpians relished it. So no matter how much they pretend Trump is now irrelevant, we can not allow that nor can we allow these attacks on Biden to go unanswered. I'm not happy with Biden, but pretending he's this horrible POTUS out to end democracy… especially right after we experienced Trump, that's an (insert strong expletive) farce. It shouldn't justify future POTUS bad behavior, but that's where we're at.
So, just so were clear, you're fine with POTUS calling a reporter a "stupid son of a bitch" when he asks a question he doesn't like?
And the reasoning is, Trump was worse?
GET A LIFE. That jackass Doocy deserves everything he gets. The last 6-7 posters starting with 40s lame ass quote, lashing out at Biden for this sat quietly as Trump called reporters enemies of the state and fake news. Now you freak out for this, give it a rest. Biden is a doddering old fool, he's mouthy as hell, and one of the last people from the 2020 race that I would have actually wanted to be elected; but when he does something to end our democracy, commits high crimes and misdemeanors, lies like Trump, or does anything truly horrific like abandoning allies on the battlefield… then I will join in the condemning, but this? Nah, not even a blip on the radar of shocked by a political figure. Honestly, after Trump, complaining about this makes y'all look like snowflakes.
Alright fine.
Why don't you make a short list of things we can question Biden about then? Is there anything? Or is it just "well, no matter what, Trump was worse, shut your mouth"?
And yes, Lord OCD, I tried my best not to "freak out" here like I did in all my other posts.
You can question anything, and some crap he deserved the hits for. But this is nothing on the scale of things. There are a lot of right-wingers hating on Biden simply because the whole world hated on Trump. I don't care that they don't get why the entire world hated on Trump, but they don't get to act like Biden is the worst EVER. Especially not after they pushed Trump up our collective asses. NOPE. And call me whatever you want fate, but I'm always going to call it like I see it even if you and the rest of the board are of differing opinions or in the line of fire for those words. I may be a little blunt at times, but in times like this, I think most of the right could use a little blunt every hour or two.
I think the best thing would to first admit we didn't have a good choice. Whether Biden or Trump was elected, we were not going to come out with a good president. I know it gets tiresome to hear things like, "Yeah but he's not Trump". But that's really all it boils down to and that's a sad state of affairs. Neither party is putting out good candidates. In December of 2020 Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republican, and 41% as Independent. So in actuality our choices for president are selected by 32% of Americans on one side and 25% of Americans on the other side.
It's a sad state of affairs. We are manipulated in a way that our only legitimate choices of voting for someone who might get elected are by candidates that in no way represent what even close to the majority of Americans want or support. Then we argue about which was the lesser of the two evils. Sadly we do that because the two evils is what we were given to choose from.
They haven't forgotten Trump this soon 40. No chance GOPers win the Oval back with Trumpism. No chance at all.
But there is a chance for team GOPer to win control of one or both houses of congress. But don't get too happy because the best case scenario for you is more judges.
I find it hilarious that the seditious party that tried to overthrow democracy still thinks anyone normal takes them seriously. Nobody cares about their tears and hate for dem politicians. LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID! COUP. STACKED STOLEN SUPREME COURT. ABANDONED ALLIES AND TURNED THE WORLD AGAINST US. LET 600K AMERICANS DIE WHILE DENYING COVID. ACTING LIKE PETULANT CHILDREN WHILE THE WORLD FIGHTS COVID. lmao. You can't make this up.
I find it hilarious that the seditious party that tried to overthrow democracy still thinks anyone normal takes them seriously. Nobody cares about their tears and hate for dem politicians. LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID! COUP. STACKED STOLEN SUPREME COURT. ABANDONED ALLIES AND TURNED THE WORLD AGAINST US. LET 600K AMERICANS DIE WHILE DENYING COVID. ACTING LIKE PETULANT CHILDREN WHILE THE WORLD FIGHTS COVID. lmao. You can't make this up.
You do realize more Americans have died of Covid since your President Biden took office. He has done nothing just divide people further by creating mandates. At least Trump gave us Operation Warp speed.
Even Biden can't fix stupid. The vast majority of those dying are anti vaxxers. Maybe if we had the unifying leader we had before Biden...... no, wait....
Trump made up a good slogan for something any leader would have done. Fund virus research during a pandemic. Biden has done everything possible to promote taking the "Trump vaccine". But now that Biden promotes it, trumpsters have turned on it. You can't make up just how stupid that is. And you can't fix stupid.
Trump booed at Alabama rally after telling supporters to get vaccinated
"But I recommend take the vaccines," Trump said. "I did it. It's good. Take the vaccines."
It took him until April of this year to say it but at least he finally said it. And his followers hate for Biden was stronger than their love for trump.
I find it hilarious that the seditious party that tried to overthrow democracy still thinks anyone normal takes them seriously. Nobody cares about their tears and hate for dem politicians. LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID! COUP. STACKED STOLEN SUPREME COURT. ABANDONED ALLIES AND TURNED THE WORLD AGAINST US. LET 600K AMERICANS DIE WHILE DENYING COVID. ACTING LIKE PETULANT CHILDREN WHILE THE WORLD FIGHTS COVID. lmao. You can't make this up.
You do realize more Americans have died of Covid since your President Biden took office. He has done nothing just divide people further by creating mandates. At least Trump gave us Operation Warp speed.
Trump gave us BS, lots of BS and little else. And yes, covid is still killing, but the anti-mask, anti-vaccine, anti-mandates, anti-lockdown, anti-quarantine party might have just a bit to do with that.
I'm pretty sure if we had a thirst epidemic, and Biden put in an order that everyone has to drink water, the extreme right would tell him he's being divisive.
Then Alex Jones would put out a show about how dangerous water is.
I'm pretty sure if Biden just told everyone in the country to "have a nice day," that the extreme right would tell him he's being divisive.
Then Tucker Carlson would emphasize how Biden is trying to control your mood on his program.
I'm pretty sure if Biden said it was not right to fornicate with animals, that the extreme right would tell him he's being divisive.
Then Sean Hannity would conduct a very empathetic interview with that one guy who just wanted to make love with a dolphin.
Biden is on touting his crazy record jobs report and first year jobs update. By far the most jobs ever created in one year. And the biggest drop in unemployment in history.
Biden is on touting his crazy record jobs report and first year jobs update. By far the most jobs ever created in one year. And the biggest drop in unemployment in history.
Is that because of the "great resignation" and they can't collect unemployment to be counted.
Getting better paying jobs is frowned upon by some.
Come on Pit, I don't think I recall seeing anyone say they shouldn't get better paying jobs. I recall the motto was "If you don't like what you get paid, go find a better paying job".
So maybe the market did exactly what it was supposed to do, get people to better themselves, and make employers aware they are underpaying.
I don't believe that's the picture you were trying to present in your previous post.
But yes, that's a lot of what's happening. Sometimes business has the upper hand and that keeps wages low. There is often little to no competition in wages and incentives. That's not the case at this time. Even in the same industry you can make a move to increase your wages and get a new employee incentive hiring bonus. When people accentuate those resigning form their current jobs but refuse to show the number of new hires it certainly skews the data.
LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID! COUP. STACKED STOLEN SUPREME COURT. ABANDONED ALLIES AND TURNED THE WORLD AGAINST US. LET 600K AMERICANS DIE WHILE DENYING COVID. ACTING LIKE PETULANT CHILDREN WHILE THE WORLD FIGHTS COVID. lmao. You can't make this up.
I really thought you were coming around for a second. I thought you were talking about the left and the democrats on every point mentioned until I read it a second time. (Except for the petulant children comment, that doesn't make me think left because everybody acts like petulant children.) Coup? left. Stolen supreme court? Ya left. Abandoned allies? Yep, left, Afghanistan, and Obama's admin. Turned the world against us? Yep Left. 600K Americans died? (I thought that was militarily actually) yep, left. Every point fits the left imo.
Back on topic. Bidens' agenda? If one actually believes, or believed that Biden is in cooperation, in a subsidiary role to the Putin led Russian state, ( i.e. that Putin controls both sides, the Russians and what America is going to do in response), If someone actually believed that, then, A possible question could become, ( Would Putin just be using Ukraine to prop up Bidens' poll numbers with voters?)
What do you call it when Republicans say that a SCOTUS appointment can't be made during Obama's last year in office because the voters should decide after the election, then they rush Amy Coney Barrett's confirmation during Trump's last months in office?
And then there's this..... Putin actually said he wanted Trump to be president...
( A 4 year old argument.) :edit, should read, respond to PitDawg: "And then there's this..... Putin actually said he wanted" Do you actually believe every thing that Putin "says"? (shh, we both know you are smarter than that.) ---- "he said into a mirror". goes at the end of every post made.
Trump seemed to believe everything Putin said. Would you like to see all the compliments Trump gave Putin too? See, that's the problem. Even when the facts get laid right in front of your face you refuse to believe them. It's become quite a trend these days.
I don't believe that's the picture you were trying to present in your previous post.
But yes, that's a lot of what's happening. Sometimes business has the upper hand and that keeps wages low. There is often little to no competition in wages and incentives. That's not the case at this time. Even in the same industry you can make a move to increase your wages and get a new employee incentive hiring bonus. When people accentuate those resigning form their current jobs but refuse to show the number of new hires it certainly skews the data.
Then you misunderstood my post or I didn't word it well.
It was meant satirical that of course there's a bunch of open jobs with everyone quitting their jobs as the media claims. And then of course it's difficult to claim unemployment when you quit, so the other side of that would be less unemployment.
I don't believe that that there is this "great resignation" as the media puts it, versus as what appears to be truly happening of people moving on to better opportunity.
Country is opening up. People are going back to work. At least the ones the Dems didn't kill. Biden is a senile old idiot. Get over yourself.
Sore loser. Dems are once again fixing the economy after GOPers run the country/economy off the rails. It's like the never ending story in US politics. GOPers mess it up, dems fix it, GOPers get power again.
Country is opening up. People are going back to work. At least the ones the Dems didn't kill. Biden is a senile old idiot. Get over yourself.
Sore loser. Dems are once again fixing the economy after GOPers run the country/economy off the rails. It's like the never ending story in US politics. GOPers mess it up, dems fix it, GOPers get power again.
Dems shut the country down and are doing their best to keep shut down. The country and Republicans are fighting to open it up. Now that is time for Sleepy to jump in and brag he is fixing unemployment. BS
Country is opening up. People are going back to work. At least the ones the Dems didn't kill. Biden is a senile old idiot. Get over yourself.
Sore loser. Dems are once again fixing the economy after GOPers run the country/economy off the rails. It's like the never ending story in US politics. GOPers mess it up, dems fix it, GOPers get power again.
Dems shut the country down and are doing their best to keep shut down. The country and Republicans are fighting to open it up. Now that is time for Sleepy to jump in and brag he is fixing unemployment. BS
Trump shut the country down, and he was no Dem. Then he riled up the brain-dead to fight against HIS economic closures. And ever since, the right has been chasing its tail and blaming dems for everything they are doing. All the while, not having a clue about anything but partisan talking points being hand fed to them by the right's propaganda networks. And of course, they outwitted you, and sold you a bill of goods. You must have bought in hard too, to just ignore your oath of service like you did. While Trump committed treason, incited an insurrection, and attempted a coup. You weren't the only vet to buy in, but most of them woke up.
I find it hilarious that the seditious party that tried to overthrow democracy still thinks anyone normal takes them seriously. Nobody cares about their tears and hate for dem politicians. LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID! COUP. STACKED STOLEN SUPREME COURT. ABANDONED ALLIES AND TURNED THE WORLD AGAINST US. LET 600K AMERICANS DIE WHILE DENYING COVID. ACTING LIKE PETULANT CHILDREN WHILE THE WORLD FIGHTS COVID. lmao. You can't make this up.
You do realize more Americans have died of Covid since your President Biden took office. He has done nothing just divide people further by creating mandates. At least Trump gave us Operation Warp speed.
Trump gave us BS, lots of BS and little else. And yes, covid is still killing, but the anti-mask, anti-vaccine, anti-mandates, anti-lockdown, anti-quarantine party might have just a bit to do with that.
And Biden gave us trillion dollars of spending, 40 year high inflation rates, 40 DAMN YEAR HIGH I MEAN HOLY HELL, created a second Saigon disaster, Left Americans in Afghanistan, illegal immigration has also surged, and gas is at a ten year high.
Anyone actually defending Biden at this point cannot be taken seriously. He's been an absolute disgrace so far. Worst president in my life so far.
Is that past tense or future tense? ( Am I spelling tense right?) it doesn't matter.
( That is like the one time bit from Saturday Night Live, Phil Hartman iirc. played the nuclear reactor boss, and just before he took off for vacation he told his clueless underlings, "Remember, you can't put too much water in a reactors overflow." or something like that, and then walked out the door, then they couldn't decide whether to add a lot of water, or not to add any water, and then the nuclear plant exploded.)
See, in the past tense it is a description of an action that took place already, but in the future imperative tense it is asking for someone to do the action, which hasn't happened yet.
That has to be an onion headline right? Either way it's racist. How the heck could endorsed drug use, are they assuming drug use based on race? That's highly objectionable. budge. How can anyone think handing out crack pipes helps anybody. Is there anybody on earth that thinks handing out crack pipes helps anybody, if so, how far gone are you.
P.S. That's not a crack pipe in the article's picture.
Yeah, but they're also handing out safe sex kits so we won't have unwanted babies hooked on crack!
Encouraging drug use is the "woke" approach to kindness and compassion. Drug users are victims of an unfair society. The only way to solve this is to have taxpayers help them stock up on supplies, anything less would be uncivilized.
Spending billions every year in a "war on drugs" that has proven to be an utter failure and has proven pointless. I certainly don't understand the whole crack pipe thing. People who want to use drugs are going to use them. If the history of the war on drugs has taught us anything, it has taught us that.
Both AIDS and Hep C can be transmitted through dirty needles among other diseases. I don't think it has anything to do with being "woke". It's whether you want to pay for cheap needles or lifetime of healthcare costs for these people. You may wish to better inform yourself on how these programs are conducted and how they actually work before you generalize....
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What is an SSP?
Syringe services programs (SSPs) are also referred to as syringe exchange programs (SEPs) and needle exchange programs (NEPs). Although the services they provide may vary, SSPs are community-based programs that provide access to sterile needles and syringes, facilitate safe disposal of used syringes, and provide and link to other important services and programs such as
Referral to substance use disorder treatment programs. Screening, care, and treatment for viral hepatitis and HIV. Education about overdose prevention and safer injection practices. Vaccinations, including those for hepatitis A and hepatitis B. Screening for sexually transmitted diseases. Abscess and wound care. Naloxone distribution and education. Referral to social, mental health, and other medical services.
Some states have passed laws specifically legalizing SSPs because of their life-saving potential. SSPs may also be legal in states where possession and distribution of syringes without a prescription are legal.
Decisions about use of SSPs as part of prevention programs are made at the state and local levels. The Federal Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2016 includes language that gives states and local communities meeting certain criteria the opportunity to use federal funds provided through the Department of Health and Human Services to support certain components of SSPs, with the exception of provision of needles, syringes, or other equipment used solely for the purposes of illicit drug use. Do SSPs help people to stop using drugs?
Yes. When people who inject drugs use an SSP, they are more likely to enter treatment for substance use disorder and stop injecting than those who don’t use an SSP.1,2,3,4 New users of SSPs are five times as likely to enter drug treatment as those who don’t use the programs. People who inject drugs and who have used an SSP regularly are nearly three times as likely to report a reduction in injection frequency as those who have never used an SSP.2 Do SSPs reduce infections?
Yes. Nonsterile injections can lead to transmission of HIV, viral hepatitis, bacterial, and fungal infections and other complications. By providing access to sterile syringes and other injection equipment, SSPs help people prevent transmitting bloodborne and other infections when they inject drugs. In addition to being at risk for HIV, viral hepatitis, and other blood-borne and sexually transmitted diseases, people who inject drugs can get other serious, life-threatening, and costly health problems, such as infections of the heart valves (endocarditis), serious skin infections, and deep tissue abscesses. Access to sterile injection equipment can help prevent these infections, and health care provided at SSPs can catch these problems early and provide easy-to-access treatment to a population that may be reluctant to go to a hospital or seek other medical care.5,6,7 Top of Page Do SSPs cause more needles in public places?
No. Studies show that SSPs protect the public and first responders by providing safe needle disposal and reducing the presence of needles in the community.8,9,10,11,12,13 Do SSPs lead to more crime and/or drug use?
No. SSPs do not cause or increase illegal drug use. They do not cause or increase crime.14,15 Are SSPs cost effective?
Yes. SSPs reduce health care costs by preventing HIV, viral hepatitis, and other infections, including endocarditis, a life-threatening heart valve infection. The estimated lifetime cost of treating one person living with HIV is more than $450,000.16 Hospitalizations in the U.S. for substance-use-related infections cost over $700 million each year.17 SSPs reduce these costs and help link people to treatment to stop using drugs. Do SSPs reduce drug use and drug overdoses?
SSPs help people overcome substance use disorders. If people who inject drugs use an SSP, they are more likely to enter treatment for substance use disorder and reduce or stop injecting.1,2,3,4 A Seattle study found that new users of SSPs were five times as likely to enter drug treatment as those who didn’t use the programs.2 People who inject drugs and who have used an SSP regularly are nearly three times as likely to report reducing or stopping illicit drug injection as those who have never used an SSP.2 SSPs play a key role in preventing overdose deaths by training people who inject drugs how to prevent, rapidly recognize, and reverse opioid overdoses. Specifically, many SSPs give clients and community members “overdose rescue kits” and teach them how to identify an overdose, give rescue breathing, and administer naloxone, a medication used to reverse overdose.18,19,20,21,22,23
No doubt news sources need to vetted by the reader. Many on either side are more like the National Enquirer.
Every now and then they have a news item that proves out, but most of the time it is "fake" news created to draw attention and isn't worth it's salt. I can be critical of the President and his advisors, but I seriously doubt they provide crack pipes.
FWIW, I don’t think substituting a far right source with Tucker Carlson is exactly a move to objectivity.
Objectivity? Please explain what "reference" would be objective when the left media REFUSES TO REPORT.
If you've got a minute, go google "covid natural immunity". Stories from all over the world... and Fox... with headlines of our own CDC saying natural immunity offers better protection. Left media REFUSES TO REPORT. Does that mean it's not true?
Yeah, don't bother with the Free Beacon, Tucker nails it on the head.
You should be ashamed to post that garbage. Tucker Carlson must be your daddy.
A. Tell me which part is garbage or "shut up". B. You sound like you're five again. C. My dad died when I was two, I'm part of a marginalized community, mine is still waiting for free crack pipes... because I'm white.
i dont want to jump into you and OCD's argument, but bidens plan with the crack pipes is actually a good thing.
its worked in portugal and canada, decriminalizing drug use and having places with clean equipment for addicts. a lot of people who used those facilities end up going through rehab.
part of that process, however, is making sure we can prevent the spread of diseases due to dirty needles and such. even in a financial perspective, that makes sense because it saves the system money in the long run.
we have to start somewhere. because how we currently handle drug use is not working.
Yeah, don't bother with the Free Beacon, Tucker nails it on the head.
You should be ashamed to post that garbage. Tucker Carlson must be your daddy.
A. Tell me which part is garbage or "shut up". B. You sound like you're five again. C. My dad died when I was two, I'm part of a marginalized community, mine is still waiting for free crack pipes... because I'm white.
A: ALL OF IT! And stop stealing my lines. B: Five is more mature than you. More intelligent too. C: Oh, you are a reverse racism whiner... I see you.
He's not being logical Swish, he's over the top like his daddy Tucker. Republicans only like safe spaces for themselves, lowly junkies couldn't be republican… smh. I guess understanding that safe spaces to use as a tool in preventing, intervening, or as a stepping stone to a rehab program is too much for them to process.
Reasonable approach, if that was "Biden's plan". I've seen no such plan...
“safe smoking kits” will provide pipes for the consumption of “any illicit substance” to reduce the risk of infection, which can potentially occur through cuts and sores.
How you're going to go from "free rigs at the Mission, bro!" to "I'm messed up, I need help" will likely have nothing to do with the free pipes.
As far as the bigger picture... We'll be handing out free pipes and syringes on one street corner and providing free "no-knocks" and dead bystanders two blocks over... probably for marijuana. So yes, your last sentence is so profound it's scary, with no end in sight.
The Biden Administration Is Not Giving Black People Crack Pipes And Calling It Racial Equity
The Harm Reduction Program Grant supports community-based programs geared toward overdose prevention, syringe services programs, and other harm reduction services.
You see, helping to stop the flood of overdoses that have skyrocketed during the pandemic isn't a Republican of Democrat thing. Actually people should be applauding this move. Suburban, Republican households are being hit by these overdose deaths just as hard as anyone else. Heroin and Fentanyl don't care who you or your parents voted for.
It's rather strange when you think about it. Republicans have been raging about the rising overdose deaths in this country and are now the same people raging when someone tries to help cut down on those overdoses. Who would have thought such a thing would happen? A lot of us.
As far as the bigger picture... We'll be handing out free pipes and syringes on one street corner and providing free "no-knocks" and dead bystanders two blocks over... probably for marijuana. So yes, your last sentence is so profound it's scary, with no end in sight.
This is what happens when someone doesn't actually find out how these programs work even after they've been given the information. There are links on how they work in this very thread.
When people care more about spreading lies to make political points rather than give a damn about reducing overdose deaths, this is what you'll get. But many of these very same people have proven they don't care about reducing the deaths of their fellow Americans ever since the Covid pandemic started. So who is really surprised by any of it?
Please try to educate yourself on how and why this program works before you keep droning on making yourself look more foolish.
Once again, free crack pipes is not going to cut down on overdoses.
Wow.
You obviously didn't read anything I posted because you haven't had time to read it. Smoking kits have been a part of this program all along. It's not something "Biden added or wrote". If you had bothered to read anything, it has been shown that people who use this resource are far more likely to get drug treatment than those that aren't because getting resources from them put them in touch with professional counselors as well. This program also supplies people with NARCAN to reduce overdoses. What you have decided to do is pick one single issue with thie entire program and focus on that rather than admit the great benefits it provides. You do you.
Don't need to "educate myself" on how programs work to point out the hypocrisy of our "war on drugs" . I see you're back to reading every other word and posting trash false narratives again.
Free crack pipes? What the actual F. I see the libtard left is finding more ways to keep down the poor and having them depend on handouts to guarantee votes.
Once again you and those like you have no idea this program has been in place for a very long time. You don't seem to realize that those who use this resource are far more likely to seek help for their addiction. For some of us that is the goal. Reducing drug addiction. This isn't something "the libtard left" just "found". But that's how those that follow Blubber Fett seem to be trying to present it.
Yes. What one must understand is that the Harm Reduction Program began in the 1980's. This is nothing more than grant money for an existing program. It isn't something the Biden Administration created in any way. While it is true that what services the Harm Reduction act provides for has varied from state to state, depending on what a states guidelines allow, smoking kits have been one thing provided in some places for years.
They began handing them out in Seattle in 2015. They have also been handed out in San Fransisco for years.
Between the let's give crack pipes crowd and the let's ban any book that mentions sex that could be read by a teen, there are a lot of folks with their head planted in their rectum.
Between the let's give crack pipes crowd and the let's ban any book that mentions sex that could be read by a teen, there are a lot of folks with their head planted in their rectum.
Yes. What one must understand is that the Harm Reduction Program began in the 1980's. This is nothing more than grant money for an existing program. It isn't something the Biden Administration created in any way. While it is true that what services the Harm Reduction act provides for has varied from state to state, depending on what a states guidelines allow, smoking kits have been one thing provided in some places for years.
They began handing them out in Seattle in 2015. They have also been handed out in San Fransisco for years.
It wasn't federal money funding those campaigns:
Seattle was "a privately funded needle-swap group run by drug users" where people picked up pipes from a church garage.
My point all along is that Biden didn't invent the "let's give them crack pipes" idea that so many wish to perpetuate. It was already a part of the program. The only thing the administration did was to fund the program. Overall it's a very good and positive program even though I'm not sold on the whole crack pipe thing.
Anne Arundel stops distribution of crack pipes aimed at slowing overdoses in Annapolis after Black community backlash
By BROOKS DUBOSE CAPITAL GAZETTE | APR 08, 2021 AT 6:18 PM
Admitting they “hadn’t put enough thought” into handing out clean crack pipes to slow overdoses and disease spread among drug users in Annapolis, the Anne Arundel County Health Department responded to backlash in the Black community and said it would stop immediately.
The glass pipes were brought to the attention of community leaders by an Eastport Terrace resident, a recovering crack user who has been clean for 17 years, said Carl Snowden, a longtime civil rights activist and convener of the Caucus of African American Leaders.
Distributing pipes could have “unintended consequences” of tempting former drug users to relapse, said Snowden, who recommended the practice be stopped immediately.
Dr. Nilesh Kalyanaraman, county health officer, confirmed in an email to members of the Caucus on Wednesday that the pipes came from AA Power, a group affiliated with the Health Department that distributes supplies aimed at reducing the potential for harm among people suffering from substance use. It started distributing the glass pipes this week.
“Honestly, we didn’t put enough thought into the cultural implications of this,” Kalyanaraman said Thursday. “It was more focused technically on harm reduction, and we didn’t take the broader picture into as much consideration as we should have.
“That’s why we are pulling back on that piece of it. The community is in support of the other pieces of it, and we’re going to continue with those.”
The whole thing seems a little silly to me. Encouraging distribution because they "want users to have a clean pipe and it will help stem the spread of disease" -- their words, not mine -- seems pretty futile to me.
The pipe is only "clean" once. Unless you can convince me that users will read the fine print and promise not to share the pipe, the whole idea of "prevention" goes up in smoke.
And while I get the fact that providing clean needles, along with other services including a chance at intervention, is the humane thing to do (actually, the right thing to do since the opioid epidemic is out of control). Stuff like this removes focus from the real problem.. THE OPIOIDS. The fact that fentanyl is crossing borders at astronomical rates and not enough is being done to stop it.
And I know this is a different conversation, but it goes along with everything else we "politicize". We argue about all the peripheral issues and seemingly ignore the real problems.
Seattle has EIGHT places you can get free syringes in the downtown area alone...
I don't think the real issue is being ignored at all. The media has been giving huge attention to the skyrocketing Opioid use. It's been covered everywhere. The overwhelming amount of what this program does helps lead to counseling and rehab as has been shown.
I think you may wish to look around to see who it is using the funding of this program to take the emphasis off of the Opioid epidemic. You're right that a certain portion of our society is attempting to do so. But that's the choice they made.
Well, media coverage is not going to stop the opioid crisis. As far as the programs, I'm not going to so they work or not, as far as your "big picture" statement. Not going to ask for receipts because they're very hard to find. But "overwhelming amount of what this program does helps lead to counseling and rehab as has been shown" seems like one hell of a stretch. Let's hope it's true, I'm a big proponent of personal responsibility but understand that all bets are off with addiction.
I'm not going back through all of the links I posted but there was information contained that gave the statistics of how much more likely those getting needles through this program were to seek treatment for their addiction. I could show you the billions upon billions we spend on the war on drugs every year and how despite that, we both know the opioid epidemic has spiraled out of control as that spending continues to skyrocket. Thus far it seems that strategy has been a failure of epic proportions.
I'm certainly not trying to say this will cure the opioid crisis. Obviously if it were a simple problem it would have been solved by now. What I am saying is we have seen all of these billions of dollars being spent every year on a strategy that has clearly been failing. In comparison this is a drop in the bucket of what we spend on the war on drugs and nations who focus more on getting people into rehab have been fairing much better than using the criminal avenue in dealing with it.
I think an investment in pursuing a different direction is worth it.
It also helps cut communicable diseases spread by shared needle use. And it helps keep areas kids might play or people pass by from the dirty needles lying around. Just adding that.
Beyond the pharmaceutical malpractice that has kicked opioid use into high gear in every corner of the country, I think some of the same players are behind the flood of heroin on the streets. Can't get over our soldiers guarding those fields. Took some kind of power, money, or both to make that happen for almost 20 years.
Free Crack Pipes. What a great Liberal idea. Just another idea that will cause you guys to lose your ass in Nov.
Poetic Justice? (I used to hear someone, whenever they were angry in an argument, they would immediately go to the line of "are you on crack?".) I think there may be a yet to be mentioned nefarious "unintended" consequence to the democrats handing out crac... (it's Too absurd to type).
Answer this? If a cop makes a traffic stop, A crack pipe on the front seat Is or Is NOT? still probable cause to search a vehicle????
So the democrats, distributing crack pipes? Is just like what some have tried to tell me years ago, that the FBI had been inserting drugs into (city) communities for years! ( I said nahh, come on? really?)... Well?? Now this. Did Joe Biden appoint Tyrone Bigums (Chappelles show) as secretary of the department of Rehab?
It also helps cut communicable diseases spread by shared needle use. And it helps keep areas kids might play or people pass by from the dirty needles lying around. Just adding that.
Beyond the pharmaceutical malpractice that has kicked opioid use into high gear in every corner of the country, I think some of the same players are behind the flood of heroin on the streets. Can't get over our soldiers guarding those fields. Took some kind of power, money, or both to make that happen for almost 20 years.
I don't understand the kids play area comment, and I am asking seriously, because I don't know.
Are they handing out needles but requiring them to use them right there then dispose of them properly?
FWIW, I don’t think substituting a far right source with Tucker Carlson is exactly a move to objectivity.
Objectivity? Please explain what "reference" would be objective when the left media REFUSES TO REPORT.
If you've got a minute, go google "covid natural immunity". Stories from all over the world... and Fox... with headlines of our own CDC saying natural immunity offers better protection. Left media REFUSES TO REPORT. Does that mean it's not true?
You’re getting off topic. We can talk about that in the COVID thread, as you and I have had a good conversation there.
I don’t know what you consider the left media to be, but to infer that it’s valid to post a slanted view from a proven extremist (and we’ve all seen the court filing from Fox’s own attorneys regarding how seriously he should be taken) with the justification that the other extreme won’t talk about it is not justification.
I would say the same thing if someone used Rachel Maddow as a secondary source to something originally published in the New Yorker Slate.
Does Tucker sometimes point out truth, yes, but often in furtherance of a much more tangential slant and bias. I saw that he put in a reference to Soros again in the sound bite you posted. The whole point of my comment is that I wouldn’t rest my laurels on what Tucker Carlson says, especially without a heavy dose of skepticism. If you don’t think that’s true, well then I don’t know what to say.
FWIW, I don’t think substituting a far right source with Tucker Carlson is exactly a move to objectivity.
Objectivity? Please explain what "reference" would be objective when the left media REFUSES TO REPORT.
If you've got a minute, go google "covid natural immunity". Stories from all over the world... and Fox... with headlines of our own CDC saying natural immunity offers better protection. Left media REFUSES TO REPORT. Does that mean it's not true?
You’re getting off topic. We can talk about that in the COVID thread, as you and I have had a good conversation there.
I don’t know what you consider the left media to be, but to infer that it’s valid to post a slanted view from a proven extremist (and we’ve all seen the court filing from Fox’s own attorneys regarding how seriously he should be taken) with the justification that the other extreme won’t talk about it is not justification.
I would say the same thing if someone used Rachel Maddow as a secondary source to something originally published in the New Yorker Slate.
Does Tucker sometimes point out truth, yes, but often in furtherance of a much more tangential slant and bias. I saw that he put in a reference to Soros again in the sound bite you posted. The whole point of my comment is that I wouldn’t rest my laurels on what Tucker Carlson says, especially without a heavy dose of skepticism. If you don’t think that’s true, well then I don’t know what to say.
No offense, but you're simply missing the point. The Covid reference is not off topic, it's proving the point made here in this thread (the post you responded to).
What I'm stating, you just completely reinforced with your response, please work with me here...
Mainstream Liberal News sources: NPR PBS BBC NY TIMES NBC NEWS CNN ABC NEWS MSNBC CBS NEWS
So, with any given subject, if it can be politicized in any way, a liberal viewpoint is supported by many different news sources. And obviously, given human nature, "news" will be accepted as more believable when numerous venues are reporting the same thing. Right?
On the other hand, a conservative viewpoint will be simple met with "blah, blah, blah, parroting Fox news".
Why am I posting Tucker? Because my only other option is Hannity! Liberal media will simply report nothing.
Why I used the Covid example:
In short, because of "the stage". Check each box with a yes or no as you read...
Is Covid the biggest news story in modern times?
Is a health crisis front and center of what the "viewer" wants from his/her news source?
Was Covid and vaccination politicized to the point of "us vs them"?
Was the CDC the be-all-end-all for Covid "facts"?
I'm quite sure you answered yes to all of those questions.
So, when the report came out last month, from our own CDC, that natural immunity was more effective at fighting off Covid, why did none of the liberal news sources report it?
Google hits: FOX (Fox News and numerous Fox affliiates)
REUTERS EURONEWS FORBES NDTV (New Delhi Television) THE HILL WFLA (a Tampa area news channel) FOUNDATION FOR ECONOMIC EDUCATION
Do you see any of the liberal news sources there? Why not? Those outlets are simply reporting facts from the CDC, are facts not relevant to the biggest news story, and biggest argument, in modern times?
Is a breakthrough discovery, backed by science and reported by the defacto world authority for everything "Covid", simply not news? Wouldn't you think at least one would report it, even if by accident (ie... not realizing they would be stepping on toes)?
What were seeing, as a growing trend (that has recently become not just a trend, but fact) is that liberal news outlets will report only things that fit their agenda, regardless of the scope of the story.
If a tree falls in the woods but no one was there to see it, did it really fall? That's what our media has turned into. If there are no facts to repudiate any given story, it is just ignored as if it doesn't exist.
So, two things...
First, if you're going to reference a conservative viewpoint, you're only real choice is Fox News.
Second, and more important... in a day and age where any narrative one side doesn't like is labeled as "misinformation". What credence to truth is jaded by "lack of information"?
I make a statement, you google it, all the results are Fox News, you follow the flowchart... He says "x" is true, google only shows the results from Fox, "x" must not be true, "x" must be misinformation!
It also helps cut communicable diseases spread by shared needle use. And it helps keep areas kids might play or people pass by from the dirty needles lying around. Just adding that.
Beyond the pharmaceutical malpractice that has kicked opioid use into high gear in every corner of the country, I think some of the same players are behind the flood of heroin on the streets. Can't get over our soldiers guarding those fields. Took some kind of power, money, or both to make that happen for almost 20 years.
I don't understand the kids play area comment, and I am asking seriously, because I don't know.
Are they handing out needles but requiring them to use them right there then dispose of them properly?
Dirty needles discarded by junkies in parks and around playgrounds, bro. I've found them on city side walks in Columbus. Kids see it, lock onto that crap, and play with things like that if they don't know any better.
It also helps cut communicable diseases spread by shared needle use. And it helps keep areas kids might play or people pass by from the dirty needles lying around. Just adding that.
Beyond the pharmaceutical malpractice that has kicked opioid use into high gear in every corner of the country, I think some of the same players are behind the flood of heroin on the streets. Can't get over our soldiers guarding those fields. Took some kind of power, money, or both to make that happen for almost 20 years.
I don't understand the kids play area comment, and I am asking seriously, because I don't know.
Are they handing out needles but requiring them to use them right there then dispose of them properly?
Dirty needles discarded by junkies in parks and around playgrounds, bro. I've found them on city side walks in Columbus. Kids see it, lock onto that crap, and play with things like that if they don't know any better.
I understand that. I didn't understand how giving out free needles to help stop disease helps keep play areas clean? Seems like if they are giving out free needles then there would be more needles used and disposed of.
You forgot about OAN, Newsmax and Sinclair buying up local stations that require certain right wing standards on their local news broadcasts. I'm sure there are others but I think that's enough to show acting like FOX News is the only one is bogus. The article you used as a source is from 2014. Much has changed since then.
I certainly see one problem......
New CDC Study: Vaccination Offers Higher Protection than Previous COVID-19 Infection
Any time a truth is told that Republicans don't like they call it liberal in order to get those who support Blubber Fett to ignore it. It's a one size catch all word to try to ignore anything that doesn't suit their agenda. Truth doesn't actually matter anymore.
It also helps cut communicable diseases spread by shared needle use. And it helps keep areas kids might play or people pass by from the dirty needles lying around. Just adding that.
Beyond the pharmaceutical malpractice that has kicked opioid use into high gear in every corner of the country, I think some of the same players are behind the flood of heroin on the streets. Can't get over our soldiers guarding those fields. Took some kind of power, money, or both to make that happen for almost 20 years.
I don't understand the kids play area comment, and I am asking seriously, because I don't know.
Are they handing out needles but requiring them to use them right there then dispose of them properly?
Dirty needles discarded by junkies in parks and around playgrounds, bro. I've found them on city side walks in Columbus. Kids see it, lock onto that crap, and play with things like that if they don't know any better.
I understand that. I didn't understand how giving out free needles to help stop disease helps keep play areas clean? Seems like if they are giving out free needles then there would be more needles used and disposed of.
Yep. Needles are given out to dissuade re-use and sharing. Giving out free needles simply means more needles on the playground, no ifs ands or buts.
Usually (I'm not sure in all cases/programs), in order to get new needles, its a 1:1 swap. Meaning, in order to get a new, clean one, you need to return a used, dirty one. And any program that does not do this is, well, frankly doing it wrong IMO. This helps, but surely doesn't cure, the issue of dirty needles laying around in neighborhoods exposed to the common person. It's a huge issue here in Cleveland but there are efforts to improve it. For example, the AIDS Funding Collaborative is one of the leading groups in the area for SEP promotion/support and I believe their funding requirements include this swap method for any agency applying for grant support.
I will say I don’t think the CDC is the be all end all for COVID facts.
I also approach things differently than you do since I usually use news resources that are generally considered unbiased - or at least were before 2016 - rightly or wrongly. I don’t advocate for the approach of trading off one pundit who tells me how to think vs another who tells me how to think the opposite way. It’s not actually news and that’s my point.
Edit ~ I didn’t mean that last point disparagingly. Just that I assume that the different approach is to take more of a rebuttal type research stance when it comes to news resources. I have pretty much written off the entire 24 hour mainstream for the point I made in that last paragraph.
I understand that. I didn't understand how giving out free needles to help stop disease helps keep play areas clean? Seems like if they are giving out free needles then there would be more needles used and disposed of.
In the other counties they are doing this, they actually give them a safe monitored place to shoot up. I didn't dive into the articles, but when Pit referenced other countries, I was talking about their programs. Sorry for the confusion.
I understand that. I didn't understand how giving out free needles to help stop disease helps keep play areas clean? Seems like if they are giving out free needles then there would be more needles used and disposed of.
In the other counties they are doing this, they actually give them a safe monitored place to shoot up. I didn't dive into the articles, but when Pit referenced other countries, I was talking about their programs. Sorry for the confusion.
Biden now officially worse than Jimmy Carter, economically. several articles agree with that search.
It seems both the democrats and many republicans are not subservient to the multi national oligolical companies, and the multi national oligolical companies are subservient to the Chinese. Therefore to say that Bidens agenda is to do whatever the Chinese communists, and even the Russian Czar demands of him is becoming a moreso true statement. We know what the Chinese did with the Tiamamen square protesters, it is yet to be seen if the USA and Canada are going to treat the anti mandate protesters the same way, but in many ways, news appears to show this is what it is like to lose to the Chinese and Russians, at least economically and foreign policy wise. USA USA Look at who is happy that this crumbling of American Exceptionalism is occurring. Democrats. If you don't know them by now, you will never ever ever know them, ooooo ooooh.
It isn't Biden's economy. It wasn't Trump's economy - especially in the first year or 2. It really isn't Biden's inflation either - not entirely. Would I have liked the Fed to act earlier, could Biden have done more sooner ... yes but whether it's 7% or 6% or 5.5% - that inflation was coming if Trump or Biden was in office. How short it lasts ... we are going to have to wait and see.
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