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Chubb is only allowed to get so many carries a game according to Stump earlier in the year.

True story.

Only one thing to say. 21 points off turnovers.

That's the thing and that's my take . . . when the game is on the line, your franchise QB needs to deliver and he just doesn't. He's got them deer in the headlights look about him and that's just "game over" for me. I love his chutzpah but he's not the guy. I don't know that Stefanski and co. can coach that in him either.

Why do we always want to blow it up?

None of you will EVER get a championship with this crazy mentality around here.

The Browns as an organization are at a crossroads - Andrew Berry is going to have a difficult decision to make this offseason. He didn't draft Mayfield - what's he to do? Picking up his option is the easy part; what he does next is going to be telling. If the Browns don't make the playoffs, they might not be in a draft position to get a QB that could change the fortunes of their franchise. So the question then becomes - do you think the Browns are a player away from consistently making noise in the playoffs and competing for championships? If so - trade for Watson or Wilson, Ryan, etc and be done with it. Otherwise, draft a young QB and deal with the growing pains that entails.

Pick up his option and get on the horse to find his replacement ASAP.

He’s not good. And this offense can’t overcome his crap.

I still think missing the extra points was a big deal.. make them and it's a tie game..

Didn't he only miss one extra point?

The extra point, if he made the first extra point then they would have probably kicked an other extra point instead of having to go for two.. Sorry worded that wrong..your right

Baker and Ski threw our season out in the trash. I'm heartbroken.

When the game is on the line, do NOT have Chubb on the bench and RUN THE DAMN BALL!

Baker. How many times does this guy get to prove he’s a franchise guy with 2-3 minutes left to win?

He’s had 5 times this year and failed every time.

That’s enough for me.

A loser organization never finds the next Aaron Rodgers unless there is a drastic change in ownership and culture.

I saw a really funny post about Baker in the gameday forum, from CapCity. "He must have woke up feeling generous"

It's hard to come here and read this forum this season, "Baker this, Baker that." "Any other QB in the world and we win that game, blah, blah, blah." But I knew what I was getting into when I came here.

My confidence in Baker hasn't waivered. He's our guy. We could go out and try to get a better quarterback we won't find one. Brady, Rodgers, Wilson don't want to come here. I don't think Baker is inaccurate like the picture being painted. Our receivers suck. OBJ was our best and he took it upon himself to run whatever route he wanted. DPJ was held but you gotta keep fighting for the ball. Landry just isn't the deep threat we pay him to be. But it was nice to actually see him catch a 3rd down pass. Njoku gotta come to the ball not run up field. These are timing routes. Nick Chubb, great runner, terrible runner of routes.

Watch Rodgers and Adams. Those balls are thrown before Adams even turns around. Baker had a few of those throws tonight. We don't need to go find our Rodgers. We need to find our Adams. Chemistry would be a nice thing to see for once.

I can't place the blame on Baker for this one. Is he part? Sure. So is Chubb, Garrett, DPJ, etc etc.

We can still win this. Need some help, but winning the last two games we can win still the division.

Merry Christmas to all.

What hurts the most is our guys left everything on the field. They played their hearts out just for Baker and Ski to throw it all away. Smh

Baker was awful.... that last PI non call was BS.... why we didn't run more that last drive is beyond me....

I think the Browns are two players away. Another big-time playmaking receiver and a playmaking Darius Leonard type LB.

People forget how good Baker was last year. He is a good, not great, QB when healthy. I still think the Browns can win with Baker. There is no great franchise type QB in the 2022 draft. If Berry thinks an upgrade at QB is needed he will have to trade for one.

I see it differently.. A 7-7 team going into an 11-3 team at their home field and losing by two with all the injuries and covid cases the Browns have was a good effort.

I said a few weeks back I don't feel this is a play-off team.. can they over come all the adversity .. Can they finish ? no.

Play calling is only how the out come of the play is.. 3 time outs left and the calls..welllllllll !

They beat beat the Steelers and Bengals..things will feel much better... one game at a time...

The number of 'questionable' calls that go against us, with the number of 50/50 calls that go against us, with the number of blatant penalties not called on our opponents. We may as well just have a professional wrestler run out and elbow drop our coach and change the scoreboard...it would fit right in the NFL.

You hit the nail on the head. This team has no chemistry.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all also!

I could feel much better about "the effort" over the last 2 weeks had we not blown games to the Chargers, Ravens, Steelers earlier in the yearwhen we were relatively healthy.. We blow games when we throw, when we run, when we play good defense, when we don't play good defense. We just lose. Its the only thing we do consistently, is find ways to lose to close games.

Cut Baker, keep Baker, fire Stefanski, keep Stefanski..... I have my questions about both of them... but they don't win.

My mind will not get off the fact that we refused to run it from midfield with 3 TOs left … we were averaging like 9YPC at that point. WTF

I’ll defend Bake. Everyone’s blaming Baker but the fourth and first INTs came after DPJ was interfered with. No call either time.

The second one - it WAS a bad pass - came a play after Baker was grabbed by the face mask and had his head spun around then took a sack. Instead of 1st and goal it’s third and 18 or whatever the hell it was. The Packers got almost every break by the refs.

The third pick seemed like a mis-communication with Landry. Our WRs can’t seem to get a lot of separation, but I will say there were a few passes where baker threw slightly behind/ahead of the target.

Good and great teams find ways to win through adversity with great coaching, great play calling, and great execution with 2nd and 3rd stringers. The Ravens are a prime example. We are an average team.

We’ve lost some HEART BREAKERS:

At KC
At LAC
PIT
At BAL
LV
At GB


We win half of those and we’re looking at a BYE!! … ugh

Receiver is a lot easier to find than LB. This upcoming draft looks to be defensive line heavy. Curious: Do you think the Browns need a ILB or another OLB?

The games that hurt the most are the Baltimore and Pittsburgh games - Pittsburgh especially; they had no kicker. Baltimore - can't take advantage of 4 INT's? Really?

yep, those are basically unacceptable losses given the circumstances

Baker was terrible. So many passes looked like he was aiming for the DB. The one that was dropped hit the defender in the numbers.
When he wasn't throwing behind his WRs, he was throwing early or just plain missing. He seemed to calm himself somewhat in the 2nd half but was still really erratic. I don't think we'll be able to upgrade this off-season, but we have to at least start positioning ourselves (likely stockpiling picks and/or cash).

Chubb ran hard. Had a great game.

D played well AND didn't fold at the end. They're short-handed and beat up and played as well as anyone could expect vs GB in their house. Held GB to 24 points, and 21 were off of TOs. Would've liked to take the ball away, but given our roster I can't ask for more than what they gave.

Hooper played alright. He made some tough catches and didn't have any drops. Thought I saw some Higgins sightings.
Njoku drives me nuts. That guy should be thriving in this O.

Our Oline had a bad stretch their in the second half where they were getting owned by a 4-man rush.

The Browns need a WR that can stretch the field... The Browns need a play caller who will use that WR..

DC .. might look different if next Monday night the Browns win..then they will be 1-0

When you have to come up with excuses for FOUR interceptions... there's something wrong...

how many times has Baker had a chance to win the game on the last drive this year?? Has it been 4? 5?

I get he had a good season last year and has been hurt this year.... but damn.... I'm tired of our offense having a chance to win the game on the last drive and squander it...

Didnt i read that he is 2-14 when facing a game winning drive? That’s pathetic

hadn't heard that.... but not surprised...

j/c...

- 4 INTs. Absurd. Baker was bad. Missing throws all night.

- Refs blew/missed 4-5 critical calls. Wyatt Teller's mom wasn't happy about it either.

- LeCounte III on Adams is hilariously inept. That was a free TD before the ball was even snapped.

- The Curse of Phil Dawson lives.

- Got away from the run for awhile as the Browns were gaining big yardage on the ground.

- Final possession after gaining chunks on the ground, Browns go incomplete pass, incomplete pass, INT to lose the game. Of course they did.

- Hat tip to John Johnson III for his tweet.

- Merry Christmas.

Go Frowns.

Funny.

Last year we won a ton of close games. That’s not really a repeatable skill and is based a ton on luck.

Barnwell predicted a reversion back to the mean this year. Probably why the o/u was set where it was too.

Yeah. When you win close games the next year you will probably revert back. We had blinders on.

How about Frank Reich. Can anyone here picture Stefanski coaching a team out of a 1-3 hole? Baker is the biggest problem on the team, and Stefanski is somewhat limited by his QB, but does Stefanski inspire confidence? Can he out coach or out scheme another team? He just seems so clueless during post game pressers and in week pressers. He has actually appeared shell shocked multiple times this season unable to fathom how his coaching did not produce a win. We have a coach and QB who are so uninspiring its hard to figure out what gets the players up to play.