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That's the difference between a losing culture and a winning one. I thought after last season we turned the corner; we didn't. For the past 20 years when we had some optimism for a good season, and it was only for maybe 3, we failed miserably. We have as much talent now as I've seen in 54 years of being a Browns fan and we are 7-8. Terrible!!

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Talent yes, enough talent.... nope. Like everybody else in the NFL. We can't have many injuries, or covid cases, and we gave had a crap load of both.


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And yet we saw those intangibles early on in his career. As a rookie he had what 20 TD and Zero INTS from the red zone. Some amazing stuff so its hard for me to believe without just disliking the guy when there is evidence of him being that franchise QB...what happened?

The biggest change is Stefanski....he did not pick Baker. He wants his own QB that he chooses so instead of building an O around a Franchise QB he has chosen to make Baker into a round peg trying to fit a square hole. Sorry nobody can tell me I didn't see what transpired that rookie season and then it was a different O and another different O and then another and this last one instead of tailoring it to Baker as in even the first year into the offense then SKI tried to make Baker into a 6'5" QB Who would stand in the pocket and throw accurately. Baker is not that guy and instead of tailoring our O to what Baker does best we tried to make a Cousins out of him - Ski would like to have Goff as our QB - how many times have you heard Ski say...BAKER is my guy and I stand by him 100% How many - what HC does that. Oh he's said Baker is our QB as in we are stuck with him. I am tired of these EGOtistical HC that sacrifice the TEAM and try to make a great QB into HIS average QB...sorry if you don't see this its not my fault. I thought we finally got our guy and it went to his head especially winning coach of the year. And here we are still in it. but our FRANCHISE QB has a broken confidence he went from amazing to Sanchez in front of our eyes. Baker choke...yep that is what the guy is all about .
that rookie year and the way he played is just a figment of our imaginations. Ski has some decent plays and schemes but he has failed in a coach cause he would rather have us struggle and collapse than prosper with a QB not in his design. I don't wish for a change in scheme or a change in QB - I do wish for a HC who can design a scheme of what Baker does well rather than force Baker to be that Case Keenum QB...smh


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I hope you are wrong



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Just watch closely that is all I ask and then decide ...Oh and his weapons as advertised are not that good as reported.


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EO your post makes some sense. I'm coming to the realization that there is a lot going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. Too much needless drama this year.

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Everybody is out to get Baker. Even Stefanski who "wants his own guy". Haven't you been keeping up? Yet oddly enough, Stefnaski is the same coach that helped coach this team to the playoffs last year with an 11-5 record using Baker as his starting QB. It must be the new math.


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