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https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/browns-maven-features/5-reasons-browns-offense-failed

I thought this was fair but I would like to add to it.

The projected team that was supposed to start the season never saw the field together.

All off season there was many articles published about Odell's health his rehab from injury. By the time camp ended everyone expected him to play. He had time off to work with Baker. There were workout videos posted with comments about how great he looked.

When the KC game started. Odell decided he was not ready. And he didn't attend many full practices at all. He was left to do things at his pace. When he did play nothing happened. Then the whole deal with his father went right through the team. I have zero respect for Odell.

In the second game Baker gets hurt and so does Landry. Neither played to their ability the rest of the season. After Odell left Jarvis lost interest. It was clear in the Steeler game he was loafing. It was easy to spot he was going through the motions. He was slow to begin his career but he was great at everything else. He is now a liability.

Hooper stinks. He drops easy passes. He can not run at all after the catch. He can block. He was a poor FA signing.

The loss of Conklin was a major loss. Hubbard was gone for the year. Hance and Hudson were lousy replacements. Conklin was an All Pro. He could handle Watt. Hance was a backup guard playing RT for an All Pro. Hudson was a developmental player far from being ready to start.

Wills has been a great disappointment. He is terrible in pass protection. What was rated as the best OL going into the year was nowhere near the best.

Both Hunt and Chubb missed games.

The defense started slow with many new players. They got better but at times were inconsistent.

COVID. We played one game with 20 guys on the list. Other games various guys made the list.

Coaching. IMO any talk about Stefanski wanting to rid himself of Baker. Or, talk that he was not his guy because he was not drafted by Berry. That to me is pure bull ****.

This is Stefanski's second season as a head coach. He is young and is learning. It was obvious in the NE game. He has lots to learn. He made mistakes both in game planning and in play calling. I can accept that. He will get better and I support him.

Finally Baker. This topic has been poured over. I don't think anything I say would change opinions. All I will say is during his time in Cleveland he has played good and bad. This year he was injured. At the same time he played bad as well. His future with the team and the direction of his career is still to be decided. One thing I will say is Baker gives his heart, soul, and body for his teammates and to win.

I thought going into the season worst case would be a wild card. It seems impossible that the 2020 team would have a better record than this year.

But plans often go bad. This was a season where everything went bad.

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Anthony Schwartz not finishing his route against Houston was a huge, huge deal. Baker’s subsequent injury basically damned our season.

Maybe we wouldn’t have won the division, but it certainly didn’t give us much of a chance. Things spiraled downward from then on.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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This is what went wrong. 58 players were on the injured/reserve lists through the course of the year. 2nd highest in the league (sort by the right most column). Hard to have any consistency when 109% of your team (based on 53 man roster) is injured at some point. Only 1 of the top ten made the playoffs (Tenn).

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/

Almost everything else is a symptom of the issue (exceptions: the OBJ mess, cases of dropsies, play calling) IMHO

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I'll put this in the order of how things played out (in my opinion).

#1 - Stefanski not playing his starting defense in the preseason killed us in the Chiefs game. I thought we played really soft and gave up way more easy plays than we needed to. I know we held them to 10-points in the first half of that game but if you go back and watch the game, the Chiefs moved the ball at will just dinking and dunking all over us. Our pass rush was non-existent. Our offense played nearly perfect football and we still lost the game. I was really, really upset about us blowing that game and sure enough it did circle back around to haunt us considering we were out of it by basically one game.

#2 - Bakers injury. I don't need to go into detail on this as it's been beaten to death. Our offense, minus two games (Chargers & Bengals) really never recovered from his injury.

#3 - The OBJ drama.

#4 - Injuries, injuries, injuries. Wills got hurt early in the KC game and was never the same afterwards. He was a revolving door at times. I feel like the defense was only healthy for a couple of games. Jarvis and Beckham were only on the field together one single game this season. Landry missed multiple games due to injury and covid. DPJ missed three games due to injury. The offensive line was a mess most of the season. Conklin was a huge, huge loss and so was Hubbard. People seem to forget about that. Baker was probably never comfortable with the offensive line this season after the first game which as we know can make a QB skiddish and hesitant in the pocket.

#5 - Poor WR play, literally PFF's lowest ranked group in the league. Hooper is slow as dirt and drops half of the passes thrown near him.

#6 - Stefanski and his vanilla / predictable play calling. Going 5-wide was a waste of a down all season and he kept doing it over, and over, and over, and over. It also drove me nuts when he would lineup in power formations with 2-3 TE's and try running into 8,9 and 10-man boxes. This is what lost us the game to the Raiders after Greedy's INT. It was 3rd and 4 and we lined up in a power I formation and ran an off-tackle play right into a ten man box and were stuffed for no gain. There should have been more play-action, more bootlegs, and more running for 3/4 WR sets so that Chubb/Hunt/Johnson had more space up the middle. With our slow WR's all teams had to do was man up on them and they were free to play 8-9 guys in the box to stop the run. This killed us especially the last half of the season.

#7 - Baker regressing between the ears. Injury or no injury he made a ton of bad reads and throws this season. I honestly think it was just a comfort thing with him. He was never comfortable with the OL, the WR's or Stefanski's play calling after his injury and injuries to others started to pile up.

#8 - Inconsistent defense hurt us at times too. See the Chargers game, Chiefs game, Cardinals game, and the Patriots game.

People blame Baker, but there were a ton of other factors at play.

It was the perfect storm for a let down of a season.



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I meant to add the kickers and should have driven that point.

You must have reliable kickers. It is imperative in close games. It is so self defeating to pray for an extra point or 40 yard field goal.

That must be addressed.

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I agree with your list, but not the order.

To me, #1 is the team injuries, followed by Baker's injury. The injuries, especially to the Oline, really kneecapped the strengths of this offense early on. Having none of your starter-caliber tackles available is pretty bad for a run-based offense. Wills has been battling the ankle all year, and I don't think Conklin was out there for like half the season. Combine that with nagging injuries to QB all year, and WRs in and out of the lineup.... the injuries are what cut us off at the knees and further exposed our weaknesses on offense.

Should we (particularly Stefanski and Baker) have responded better? Absolutely. But that litany of injuries are really what kicked off this poop-show.


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Great posts Bonefish et al.

I don't think the Odell factor can be undersold a large contributing reason for the poor season. Not just because his absence and malfeasance eliminated our deep threat potential and hamstrung our passing game, but rather his ability to disrupt the team.

Here is what I mean. I think it is clear based on reports he definitely did not want to be here this year, probably not ever. He voiced this to Berry before the season started. Berry should have traded him. At least Berry and Stefanski knew this, probably Jarvis.

Odell starts the season with a subtle sabotage, pulling out of the first few games. Im sure this wrecked some plans of Stefanski in running the offense. Even when Odell became available Im sure Stefanski altered the gameplan some knowing Odell was a malcontent. I also think Odell was sowing seeds of discontent and opposition to Baker before and during the season. Jarvis was maybe affected most. I think Odell deliberately played unpredictably/poorly to ouster his exit. This added to Bakers continued decline "between the ears" or reading defenses. Again I think this was affecting Stefanski too. As adversity hit, as it always does in the NFL, I think the seeds of Odell malcontent sprouted and grew, while here and after he has left.

The second big error is not shutting Baker down after week 2 or definitely week 6. Not doing this has unfortunately wrecked both Bakers career and the current version of the Browns.

This combined with other things has created a toxic environment in Berrea. Berry allowed this mess to develop, he is going to have to clean it up, because now Baker is a malcontent. I think there are two options:
1. Cut Baker, move forward as is.
2. Keep Baker, make Van Pelt OC, and clean house of the former Odell camp.

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You might wish to look at OBJ's 2020 stats. Considering he was only here for a portion of this season, his numbers didn't look any better last year. This wasn't some huge downturn in his production from our 11-5 season.


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Originally Posted by bonefish
I meant to add the kickers and should have driven that point.

You must have reliable kickers. It is imperative in close games. It is so self defeating to pray for an extra point or 40 yard field goal.

That must be addressed.
The Ravens win 2-3 games more than us just on kicking alone... all else being equal.


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Thx.

Here is the thing with Odell. Everyone knows he is a talent. He is physically gifted. He has had some great seasons although he has missed many games.

Berry I believe thought this year the Baker/Odell connections would glow. That a healthy Odell with a full camp would be the guy they wanted as a number one receiver.

Apparently, Odell had other plans. When he cooked a scheme with his father. Baker did not see that coming. It hurt and it caused division in the locker room because Odell is popular with many players.

I like Jarvis. He has been a true pro during his time in Cleveland. However, everyone knows his realtionship with Odell. There is no way that when Odell left that did not leave a mark. I watched the first half of this last game. I saw Odell slow down on running patterns. It really disappointed me.

Jarvis as much as it pains me has to go. He is slow and no longer a real threat on the field.

Berry has some difficult decisions to make.

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I'm trying to post what went wrong in 7 words or less, and I'm not being able to.
They put the league offices in new york. (8)
The league opened offices in new york. (7) but not what I meant. (They named the trophe after the wrong man) (8)

The post merger offices were in new york (8) A lot of things went wrong. (Stefanski was given too much talent) (6) (Stefanski was given not enough talent) (6)
(Baker was allowed to practice in Austin) (7)
(Chris Hubbard got injured in January 2021) (7 words)

(Chargers game proved Refs' against us) (6)

(Hunt as a crutch stopped Stefanski from evolving.) (8)

(Haslems didn't demand an improved Baker) (Haslem's didn't sign Baker Already) (Haslems' didn't keep OBJ till years end)

( I was born in Ohio) (5) (The nose dive started on opening day) (7)
(Paul Brown chose that stupid color orange) (7)
What went wrong? Aggghhhh! everything!


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Odell,Landry,Hooper,the HC,the equip.manager.
lets just blame the little green men that fried his brain with a death ray.


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What went wrong ? This is some of what went wrong...good read.



The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, about the 2021 Browns season

By: Camryn JusticePosted at 3:32 PM, Jan 04, 2022 and last updated 3:32 PM, Jan 04, 2022

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CLEVELAND — In early January last season, the Cleveland Browns were playoff-bound for the first time in 17 seasons and about to win their first playoff game in 26 years. After the 2020 season ended, fans and experts expected a Super Bowl contender in 2021. But with Cleveland officially eliminated from playoff contention a day before the team played it's second-last game of the season, it's time to look at what went wrong in what began as such a promising year.

Baker Mayfield
It's probably best to start off addressing the most divisive subject of the Browns first, the quarterback who entered the season as the clear future of the franchise and ended it with a fan base split between wanting to keep him and ready to restart the ever-exhausting search for a new quarterback.

To say Mayfield's performances throughout the season created doubt about whether he is the franchise quarterback the Browns have been looking for is fair, because, well, there were times Mayfield was flat-out awful. His accuracy declined severely, his decision-making seemed the worst of his career and his mechanics suffered tremendously.

But that's all without mentioning—not as an excuse, but as a matter of fact—the shoulder injury.

Mayfield tore his labrum in his left, non-throwing shoulder in the second week of the season in the game against the Texans. He played through the injury, and the Browns won their next two games and were a score away from winning the third, and then the injury was made drastically worse in Week 6 against the Cardinals.

To his credit, Mayfield was never going to give up.

"I'm a fighter. If anybody every questions how much I want it, just turn on this tape. It wasn't pretty, but I kept swinging. That's who I am, and that's who I'll continue to be. That's who I've always been," Mayfield said after the Week 17 loss to the Steelers. "Now it's time for me to start looking at what's in the best interest for me and my health. I've continued to lay it out on the line. I haven't been healthy and tried to fight for our guys. Right now, I'm pretty damn beat up, to be honest with you. There's no way around it. I gave it everything I had tonight."

Now, the shoulder injury only explains the mechanics issues Mayfield has displayed this season, sailing the ball high after throwing off platform, not getting enough behind cross-body throws, struggling with roll-outs. Mayfield has had other issues with reading the field, finding open receivers, anticipating windows rather than waiting for a purely open target—all mental and possibly made worse with a lack of confidence after the injury, but not directly related.

Mayfield has been a roller-coaster of a quarterback for the Browns but has played with the cards stacked against him for much of his career, so getting a good read on who he is with true certainty has proved to be difficult.

The Browns exercised Mayfield's fifth year option and—barring any major trade for a proven quarterback to take full advantage of the window they're in now—he'll get another chance to prove himself in 2022.

Mayfield will have surgery to repair the damage in the left shoulder, and he and the Browns will hope for a fresh start after he's fully healthy for what could be Mayfield's last chance to prove he's the guy the Browns have been looking for, if he returns to Cleveland next season.

RELATED: After loss to Steelers, Browns QB Baker Mayfield confirms he'll have surgery on shoulder

Coaching decisions

Last season, head coach Kevin Stefanski earned Coach of the Year after helping end the Browns playoff drought. He showed a much-needed respect for the run game that was effectively married to the pass game while boasting the most wins by a first-year Browns head coach since Paul Brown in 1946.

This year, Stefanski's Browns were unable to reach the playoffs, and while the Browns lead the league in yards per carry and are fifth in the league in total rushing yards, the electric offense we all saw in 2020 looked stagnant and stale this season.

The Browns are 23rd in rushing attempts, which is the most baffling part of the situation with Stefanski's play calling. Sure, the one-two punch of Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt has been missing for much of the season with both missing time throughout the year with injury or COVID-19. And sure, the run game works best when there is a threat of a pass game behind it, which has not been the case with a hindered quarterback and inconsistent receivers. But there have been games where the threat of the run has appeared simply non-existent.

Stefanski also struggled with going for it on fourth down all season. Cleveland has converted just 12 of its 28 fourth down attempts this season—ranked 26th in the league. Analytics play a big role in the Browns' aggressiveness on fourth down, but when the offense has been failing for most of the season, it might be time to adjust that. In-game adjustments are another area where Stefanski could improve.

Highlighted by Mayfield's comments after the Steelers game, it appears there are some decisions not being made in-game that perhaps could and would help the Browns in real time.

Monday night against the Steelers, Mayfield was sacked nine times, with T.J. Watt accounting for four of them. Watt is the NFL sack leader and a top candidate for Defensive Player of the Year in addition to being a Pro Bowler, so stopping him is a tough task for anyone. But on Monday, Stefanski had rookie tackle James Hudson up against Watt one-on-one, which proved to be a recipe for disaster.

"Just a matter of looking at the game plan and what we like and seeing if some of those players are adjustable to be able to bring just a little extra help—chipping [T.J. Watt] or staying people in protection," Mayfield said. "Just discussions on the fly, which, this is the NFL, you have to be able to adapt mid-game, and we didn't do a good enough job, as you can tell."

But Stefanski said his game plan did attempt to provide Mayfield help along the o-line.

"When you don't accomplish what you want to accomplish, people are certainly frustrated," the coach said. "We'll always look at what we could do better. There were plenty of times we did have a person in location to chip and those type of things and other times protection held up and ultimately whether it was we didn't get the ball out or guys weren't open or whatever it was...that's our job to look at and try to find a way to be better."

Many fans have called for Stefanski to hand over play-calling duties to offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt, hoping for some fresh and exciting changes. But the two are very collaborative, and the plays that are used would likely look the same. The benefit to handing over play-calling, however, could be that Stefanski could focus more on the in-game adjustments and on-the-fly decision-making.

Receiving woes

It didn't help that the quarterback was injured for most of the season, but even with Mayfield's injury, the receivers had issues of their own.

The Browns enter their final game of the season ranked 29th in receptions and 25th in receiving yards. While they've had the challenge of adapting to Mayfield's struggles this season, the Browns have also struggled with on-target drops as well.

Per PFF data, Austin Hooper has dropped six on-target passes with a 13.6 on-target drop percentage. Rashard Higgins has dropped four on-target passes with a 14.3 drop percentage, Donovan Peoples-Jones has dropped three on-target passes with an 8.8 percentage and Odell Beckham Jr., when in Cleveland, dropped three on-target passes with an on-target drop percentage of 10.5.

Entering the season, Odell Beckham Jr. was supposed to bring a spark to the Browns after he spent months rehabbing a torn ACL he sustained in the 2020 season. Beckham looked explosive through training camp, and in his press conferences seemed to be in a good place, excited to get back on the field with Cleveland and show that he still has elite talent.

Unfortunately, the Beckham-era in Cleveland did not work out. After a sudden decision not to play Week 1, the Browns decided to hold him out another week. Once he was back, the drama began.

After the Halloween game against the Steelers that saw Beckham get a career-low one reception for six yards, his dad took to social media, posting an 11-minute compilation video of moments his son appeared to be open but wasn't passed to by Mayfield and ripped the quarterback in the comments. Mayfield spoke out about it in a following press conference while Beckham was excused from practice.

The discord could not be reconciled and the Browns and Beckham agreed to terms that saw him released from the team, becoming a free agent and signing with the Los Angeles Rams.

Beckham was popular among his teammates, with many either close friends with him, like Jarvis Landry, or players who looked up to him. His departure certainly caused some fractures that the Browns had to try to mend for the remainder of the season.

"These are always difficult because there are real relationships that have been formed over the past three years since Odell has been here. Look, these difficult decisions exist every year, and we try to be as empathetic as we can and we try to communicate as best we can with the appropriate information. That is just something that we have to continue to work at every day,” general manager Andrew Berry said following the decision to release Beckham.

Missing not only production but bodies and talent at the position proved to be something that hindered the Browns until the very end. It will be a position of dire need of attention heading into the offseason, through free agency, the draft or both.

Injuries

This season was riddled with injuries for the Browns. One of the more impactful injuries was already addressed, but there were a number of others that changed how the Browns' season played out.

On the offensive line, Jack Conklin had been placed on the Injured Reserve list with a dislocated elbow he sustained in the Halloween game against the Steelers. In Conklin's absence, the Browns started backup Blake Hance, who was a guard playing out of position. He held his own at times but had moments of struggle as well.

After missing the required three games, Conklin was activated from IR, but in his first game back, he suffered a ruptured patellar tendon on the second drive of the game. With surgery required and another stint on IR, Conklin's season was ended and the Browns began starting rookie Hudson in his place.

Last season, Conklin's injury might have been better able to be addressed, with the versatile lineman Chris Hubbard there to be called upon. But Hubbard also was injured Week 1 against the Chiefs, suffering a triceps injury that required surgery and took him out for the remainder of the season.

Left tackle Jedrick Wills has also dealt with injury throughout the season, missing two games with an ankle injury and then playing through the injury for much of the season.

The offensive line requires cohesiveness among all five players on the field, and with the constant plug-and-play due to injuries, the o-line, which was the No. 1 ranked line in the league headed into the 2021 season, struggled through many games.

But it wasn't just the line that saw a rash of injuries. Across the roster, the Browns lost key pieces to injury. Running back Kareem Hunt was placed on IR for a calf injury in October, and a more recent ankle injury kept hunt out eight games this season. Missing his complementary style to Chubb's was felt throughout the season.

Jarvis Landry missed four games with an MCL sprain that sent him to IR early in the season. Rookie linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah missed time on IR with a high ankle sprain, while veteran linebacker Anthony Walker also had a stint on IR with a hamstring injury, and linebacker Jacob Phillips spent the entire season until being activated on Dec. 22. Defensive end Takk McKinley saw his season ended after rupturing his Achilles during the Week 15 game against the Raiders.

Every team has to deal with injuries, but for the Browns, some of them were too much to overcome.

COVID-19

The Browns, like other teams across the league, were hit hard by a resurgence of COVID-19 and the new omicron variant.

While other teams experienced outbreaks as well, the Browns' situation was so bad it prompted the league to change its protocols.

As the Browns were preparing to play the Raiders in Week 15, with their record not where they expected it to be but still in a solid spot to fight for the AFC North title, an outbreak brought things in Berea to a grinding halt.

At one point, there were 22 players and three coaches out, including Mayfield, Case Keenum, Wills, Landry, Hooper, Hudson, Jadeveon Clowney, Malik McDowell, Troy Hill, Ronnie Harrison, Grant Delpit, Phillips, Mack Wilson, Jamie Gillan and Stefanski.

The outbreak continued to grow over multiple days after the Browns went into enhanced COVID-19 protocols and began testing every day. The team confirmed all of the players who had tested positive for the virus had been vaccinated and most were asymptomatic.

After standing firm on the decision to keep playing the game, which was already on a short week, despite the COVID-19 outbreak, the NFL and NFLPA eventually decided to postpone it two days. The delay didn't see many players return from the COVID-19 list, and the Browns ultimately lost the game, despite being in good position to win until a game-winning field goal by the Raiders.

The situation in Cleveland, along with other outbreaks on the Rams and the Washington Football Team, ended up being the catalyst for COVID-19 testing and quarantine changes across the league.

RELATED: NFL announces updated COVID-19 protocols, testing strategy

Special Teams

What started off as one of the strongest areas of the team turned sour by the final stretch of the season with the Browns once again in the hunt for a reliable kicker—a task that most teams in the league struggle with (besides the Ravens, of course).

After Cody Parkey injured his quad during the preseason, the Browns released him and went with Chase McLaughlin at kicker, who showed out during training camp. Things looked good for McLaughlin, who had a very strong start to the season, making all of his extra point attempts and field goals up to Week 7, when he missed a field goal. Once November hit, McLaughlin's struggles really began, missing a field goal attempt in each game he played in.

With McLaughlin on the COVID-19 list, the Browns turned to practice squad kicker Chris Naggar, who missed his first extra point attempt in the game against the Packers. He was released afterwards.

The Browns also experienced punting issues this season, with Jamie Gillan struggling to start the season after an already noticeable drop off from his 2019 season to the 2020 season. A few games in, Gillan appeared to find his stride, but the inconsistencies arose again, and after spending time on the COVID-19 list, the Browns brought in Dustin Colquitt, who earned the role and prompted the Browns to release Gillan. Colquitt, 39, had some rough punts of his own, and the Browns will likely address the position in 2022.

Returning was also an area of concern for the Browns this season. Muffed punts were a too-frequent issue with the Browns, and with Demetric Felton as the primary punt returner and sharing kick return duties with Anthony Schwartz, there hasn't been much to rave about. Felton's longest punt return was 24 yards, while Schwartz held the longest kick return with 35 yards.

The one area on the special teams unit that shined was in kick coverage with guys stepping up during kickoffs and allowing the fifth fewest average yards to opponents.

Defensive growth
At the start of the 2021 season, it appeared the defense could be the team's downfall. With the new additions of John Johnson III, Anthony Walker, Troy Hill, Jadeveon Clowney, Takk McKinley, Malik Jackson, Malik McDowell in free agency and the selections of Greg Newsome II and Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, the Browns had basically overhauled the whole unit.

With all of the new additions, the players needed to gel and learn each other's ins and out, going through growing pains as they worked on communication and learning their new playbook. It took a few weeks but the Browns were able to develop into the strongest part of the team, keeping the Browns in numerous games that they ultimately lost due to offensive struggles.

Hope for 2022

This season was nothing like anyone expected. From a banged-up quarterback struggling to perform, to a roster decimated in crucial moments by COVID-19, to key pieces of the team lost for the season, the Browns faced a slew of issues they just couldn't overcome.

But as the offseason approaches, there is one thing that Browns fans can be hopeful for, and that's the approach to the roster and staff by the front office. Now it's general manager Andrew Berry's time to shine as he works out deals to keep some players in orange and brown or bring new players in through free agency, and, of course, do what he does best and look for the best value in the 2022 NFL Draft.

Perhaps that means exploring trades for a quarterback. More than likely it simply means once again revamping areas that failed this season—adding talent in the receivers room, looking at depth on the offensive line, finally finding a reliable kicker.

Berry showed his capabilities last offseason in the draft, getting lockdown rookie cornerback Greg Newsome II, who in his first year showed skill and coverage technique with the ability to grow, and second-round steal Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, who made a massive impact to the defense with his patience and closing speed to go along with his agility and versatility.

Despite the desire of one player to want out and the discord throughout the season, Cleveland has grown in terms of becoming a landing spot for players rather than a wasteland where careers go to die. If Berry can continue building upon that culture change, and he and Stefanski make sure this season's disappointments don't fester into long-term issues within the team and organization, then the Browns should be in a good place to bounce back and be the team they were expected to be.

Because there's always next year.

Camryn Justice is a digital content producer at News 5 Cleveland. Follow her on Twitter @camijustice.

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Since you have all the answers bc tap the keys and make your point.

Because all you ever do is criticise. I have not read a post where you demonstrate any insight.

Are you capable of discussion or do just like to attack others opinion?

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Excellent synopsis of the team and their issues throughout the year.

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nr. 1 for me, Baker's excuses

Without Bakers excuses we would be in the playoffs.

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That's a balanced and well written take on the season. Thanks for sharing.


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Pure garbage. A total lack of understanding.

Play on the field is why the record is what it is.

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Originally Posted by rastanplan
nr. 1 for me, Baker's excuses

Without Bakers excuses we would be in the playoffs.

This is true.

But for Stefanski's terrible play calling we'd be in the playoffs or playing the Bengals for the Division. KS has had spells and games that were good/great - but he also certainly cost us at least 1 game.

But for Woods early season play calling we'd be in the playoffs or playing the Bengals for the Division. JW had the D playing great in some games and came on strong at the end of the season, but he too cost us at least 1 game this season.

All good now that we've pointed fingers ? Or should we add anyone else to the list ? Or are we only allowed to talk about Baker's issues?


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Decent placekicker and we would have been in the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by mgh888
Originally Posted by rastanplan
nr. 1 for me, Baker's excuses

Without Bakers excuses we would be in the playoffs.

This is true.

But for Stefanski's terrible play calling we'd be in the playoffs or playing the Bengals for the Division. KS has had spells and games that were good/great - but he also certainly cost us at least 1 game.

But for Woods early season play calling we'd be in the playoffs or playing the Bengals for the Division. JW had the D playing great in some games and came on strong at the end of the season, but he too cost us at least 1 game this season.

All good now that we've pointed fingers ? Or should we add anyone else to the list ? Or are we only allowed to talk about Baker's issues?


I think what you mean by Stefanski bad playcalling was a HC expecting his QB to be minimally efficient when he places the game on his hands because the star RB can't ?

Do you think Stefanski trusts more BM (or even cares about BM) than Chubb? He was just expecting his QB to do his job, because Chubb couldn't.

Without BM excuses we would have been 3 times in the playoffs in the last 3 seasons, because of the excuses for a single player, a very good team ended up in the playoffs just one time.

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I have as much insight as you,which is to say none.
I'm not happy with his play,nor am I pleased with the you blaming everything and everybody for it,except for the one person that is to blame.
When you run out of excuses,let me know,I've heard hundreds over the years and some are really good.


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ok insight we beat cousins,Burrows,and lamar
this could well be a playoff run
lost to Mahomes and Rodgers
defense could have put us in the playoffs but the offense stunk up the joint
injuries we sent more people to the injury list than every playoff team
analysis make special teams a priority
drafted wr get somebody here that can draft a number 2 wr.

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Maybe you can go back and read the opening thread again.

Let me know where I gave BM a free pass?

Point out what I stated is incorrect regarding "what went wrong" .

So nothing else happened? Just BM is the problem. That's your answer to what went wrong?

Ok great take.


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I think this team got.caught up reading its own press clippings
In the off season. The team.thought they just show up week
1 vs the Chiefs and beat the Chiefs based on that playoff loss

It takes 53 guys to have the same mindset same goal in mind
But the Browns have some players more intrested in their
Own stats then whats best for the team.

And plus you add in the Browns had a cupcake schedule
Last year. This team.was fools gold in 2021

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What went wrong ? I didn't think anything went wrong..seemed like a normal Browns season to me... JK.. maybe a little.


I read through the posts and lots of very good points...

Starters taking the off season off.. dropped balls... covid ...injuries ... missed FG's ... the Hammer... OBJ..Strength of schedule, which if all the stuff that went wrong didn't go wrong, I think the schedule wouldn't of been to bad.

I would like to add something... Blame. Blame caused a lot of friction and disconnect. Once everyone started blaming the other one then there was no more trust and having your back.

Yes things got tough ! But I feel frustrations should have been handled more professionally. It was time to pull together ! not Blame.

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What I meant is what I said. The post didn't Include any excuses, for BM or anyone else. Seems you want to lay 100% of the blame in one spot and you are the one making excuses for others. Ho hum.


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Originally Posted by jacksondawg
bakers injury
special teams

KS should be on that list


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I do not think anyone is or has given Mayfield a full pass.

99% of the posts I've read here on the boards and on Facebook acknowledge that he's played poorly but has also been the victim of circumstance around him.

If you're going to blame ALL of our struggles on Mayfield then you weren't paying enough attention.

(I'm not talking to anyone specific in here, just in general).

Mayfield definitely struggled and played poorly at times this year, even when protection held up and guys were open.

I think it was a confidence issue between the ears after he got hurt in week two.

But we can't ignore all of the injuries, weak WR play (and Hooper too), COVID, poor refs (Chargers & Packers games), OBJ drama, bad special teams, and lousy play calling.

This would have been a very tough offense for 85% of the leagues QB's to be successful in this season.

Blaming our failures on Baker and Baker alone is ignorant and lazy IMHO.

He was one of many hands in the "failure" cookie jar for us this season.



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Unfortunately, there are some posters who don't have the capacity to recognize what is obvious to others.

A NFL team is composed of over 53 players and an entire coaching staff.

To lay blame on any single person demonstrates a lack of understanding of what is involved in the results on the field.

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The injury to Baker's shoulder and how it was handled IS what went wrong and why we're not playing in the post season. He has a separated frickin' shoulder with a torn labrum and bone fracture! Anybody that says "Baker said he could play" and "the doctors gave him the ok" as the reasons we should play him, have never dealt with the recovery and affect on performance of a separated shoulder where the labrum is torn (let alone the accomanying bone fracture). He had to wear a harness that looked like a frickin' straight jacket.

He had no business being on that field. We had a coach that had no clue how to coach around that injury, and it was stupid to put him out there. The doctors said that there was minimal risk for further injury and that's it. Baker's ego and Stefanski's lack of stones are why he was trotted out there week after week as the team failed miserably.

We should have cut our losses and put him on IR after the Patriots game. Playing him the week following the injury was one of the stupidest decisions this organization has ever made. The bungles game was an outlier.

I know people were worried about the repercussions of sitting him when he said he could play, but would it have been anywhere near as bad as what we're seeing now? We would be going into next season with some optimism vs. arguing over which aspect of our team is the biggest failure.


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