DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Ashli Babbitt a martyr?

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner.

I may not say she got exactly what she deserved, just like I would not say many of the recent shootings of black people being taken in to custody by police were "deserved".

That said, once the protest started damaging property and threatening safety, that crossed from being a peaceful protest to a riot. At that point the rules of engagement change.

My problem is that many who use this as their flash point moment don't say a "friggen" thing about riots in cities or say anything about suspects being taken in to custody who start fighting or fleeing the police. Every excuse in the world is used to support them, so, it is what it is. Don't think for a moment this is some "got ya" the way you may have felt in your reply.

Here is the deal folks, law and order is pretty clear cut. Either it is lawful and orderly or it isn't. When we start to pick and choose what is and what isn't, and act on those choices in violent ways, we are done as a society.

You don't use deadly force unless your life or someone else's life is in danger, period. Pretty sure capital police are trained on how to deal with mobs.

Who cares what they were yelling. First amendment. If your feelings are hurt by what someone was yelling then you should go find a safe space to hide in.

You do understand that threats of violence are NOT covered under the 1st amendment, right? The 1st amendment is not a free pass to say whatever you want, whenever you want.

However, NOT ONE of those other incidents/riots/acts of civil disobedience ever put the country in peril......NOT ONE OF THEM

That is where we disagree. My feeling is the actions in Portland and elsewhere have a direct correlation to what happened at the Capitol. I also disagree that the actions in Washington put our country in peril. I seriously doubt had everything gone the way of the rioters that today President Trump would still be in office nor would some other flag be flying over the nation's capitol.

You're goofy if you think that today we could possibly be saying a pledge of allegiance to some "other" nation.

That only applies in specific situations which are not this.

Try again.

So the actions in Portland and other U.S. cities during the summer made a violent crowd believe the election was stolen from them? Say what!?

LOL...no...I believe many of the events that took place added ammo in the minds of the people who stormed the capitol.
When the dominos start to fall...well...you know, one leads to another.

Sorry man, but I ain't buying into it. if people are dumb enough to think that it's ok to attack the capital in the fashion they did, just because of a riot or altercation of some kind by who they see as opposition.... Sorry, that just doesn't add up...

Calm down. He didn't say it was the sole or primary reason. He said "added ammo" in the minds of those people.

It seems to be one more excuse added to an already long list.

I am wasting my time. I am not comparing events. I am saying one event can feed another event.

Take you last word.

And again, there are stupid people....

Fixed

One was inspired by cops killing black people. The other inspired by lies and hatred spewed by a former president and his cronies.

You are getting closer. How about one group of rioters inspiring another.

You are getting closer. How about one group of rioters inspiring another.