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Yes, and the biggest source of poison to their children is taught at home.

Cameras in classroom, if they were to be implemented, should only be reviewed by officials if there is a complaint of misconduct, and never reviewable in a live stream format.

But they want to spy on the teachers to catch them teaching “liberal values”.

Don't forget Eve, most of these teachers come marching out of college after being Brainwashed by Liberal Professors.

I'm not talking any political motives, simply putting out there that IF cameras where put in, there needs to be clear procedures on what they are for, and who/when they will be reviewed.

Sadly, the state of the society has become, "Prove your innocence" in many cases, and even when you can, the public opinion has already tarnished one's reputation and image.

So as many have accused some of you of, it's not that the teachers would do anything wrong, you just don't want anything that might sound liberal coming out of their mouths. You only want things that agree with your conservative point of view taught. Teaching our entire history is frowned upon because the truth isn't what you're concerned with children learning. I mean it may cause them to think and feel differently than you want them to.

Putting cameras in classrooms to allow parents to spy and interfere with both the teaching and curriculum, is an idea doomed to have a bad outcome, period. GOPers, aren't your kids already dumb enough already? I wish y'all would just start conservative schools all over the country. Then you can control YOUR PEOPLE, when they melt down over truth and facts. And liberals can continue to teach the next generation of innovators to help fix the crap your side breaks. That would be better than trying to kill education for everybody because you think some 2000-year-old book, or your values, or the liars you elect somehow give you the right to do so.

You know, if this country did split right/left via secession, the right wouldn't starve, but they also would not prosper.

Maybe I'm missing something here. I certainly didn't see Florida advocate for cameras in the classroom. And he actually said, "if they were to be implemented, should only be reviewed by officials if there is a complaint of misconduct, and never reviewable in a live stream format."

I was just commenting on the overall idea and reasoning. Addressing the stupidity, not Florida. But I fixed it for ya.

US groups need to stop interfering in Canada: US ex-envoy

The statement comes after GoFundMe decided to return about $9m raised for protests in Canada against vaccine mandates.

A former American ambassador to Canada said groups in the US need to cease interfering in what many call an “occupation” in Ottawa as thousands protest vaccine mandates and COVID-19 restrictions.

Protesters continued to hold loud rallies on Sunday in cities across the country in a show of solidarity with a week-long demonstration in the capital.

“Under no circumstances should any group in the USA fund disruptive activities in Canada. Period. Full stop,” Bruce Heyman, a former US ambassador under Barack Obama, tweeted late on Saturday.

After crowdfunding site GoFundMe said it would refund or redirect to charities the vast majority of millions raised by demonstrators protesting COVID-19 measures in the Canadian capital, prominent US Republicans such as Florida Governor Ron DeSantis complained.

“It is a fraud for @gofundme to commandeer $9M in donations sent to support truckers and give it to causes of their own choosing,” DeSantis tweeted.

He added he would investigate these deceptive practices and donors should be given a refund.

But GoFundMe had already changed its mind and said it would be issuing refunds to all. The company said it cut off funding for the organisers because it had determined the effort violated the site’s terms of service due to unlawful activity.

The so-called Freedom Convoy began as a movement against a vaccine requirement for cross-border truckers but has turned into a rallying point against public health measures.

Protesters have shut down downtown Ottawa for more than a week, with some participants waving Confederate or Nazi flags and some saying they want to dissolve Canada’s government.

Ontario Premier Doug Ford called the protests an occupation.

US Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who has embraced conspiracy theories, also denounced GoFundMe for the move.

In Canada’s largest city, Toronto, police set up roadblocks throughout downtown, preventing any protesters in trucks or cars from getting near the provincial legislature, which is near five major hospitals. Police later moved in to clear a key intersection in the city.

Thousands descended on Ottawa again this weekend. Participants roasted hotdogs and doled out baked goods under tarps, while two men on horseback trotted through the city, one carrying a flag in support of former US President Donald Trump.

The former US president has spoken out in support of the truckers against “the harsh policies of far-left lunatic [Prime Minister] Justin Trudeau who has destroyed Canada with insane COVID mandates”.

Residents of Ottawa are furious at the nonstop blaring of horns, traffic disruption and harassment, fearing no end is in sight.

In Toronto, a couple of hundred healthcare workers and supporters marched from the University of Toronto to the legislature against the truckers’ protests. They held placards reading, “free-dumb” and “N95 masks for all”.
Fringe minority

Trudeau, who has said the protesters represent only a “fringe minority”, earlier this week ruled out the use of troops against the truckers in the capital.

Demonstrators against COVID measures also gathered in Quebec City, Fredericton, and Winnipeg, with rallies planned for Regina, Edmonton, Vancouver, Victoria and the US border crossing in Coutts, Alberta province.

Police forces in those cities say they have learned lessons from Ottawa’s predicament and have developed strategies designed to protect key infrastructures, such as vital traffic corridors and hospitals, and also to prevent possible violence.

Some protesters set fireworks on the grounds of the National War Memorial late on Friday, drawing outrage from many Canadians.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022...hoL7kf7UcFULbQlhx4MAf4&sf159683231=1

And they can't even run for office in Canada. I guess it must be more about spreading misinformation and sewing discord and now they're doing it on foreign soil.

Second person to plead guilty in plot to kidnap Michigan governor

Feb 7 (Reuters) - A second person charged in a plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer in 2020 has agreed to plead guilty and testify at a trial in March, according to a federal court filing on Monday.

Kaleb Franks, 27, will plead guilty to kidnapping conspiracy, in a plea deal approved by prosecutors and his lawyers. The charge carries a sentence of up to life in prison.

Franks is scheduled to stand trial in March in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan alongside four others charged in the case and will admit to conspiring from June 2020 to October 2020 to kidnap Whitmer, a Democrat.

In August last year, another man who pleaded guilty to charges stemming from the plot received a sentence of just over six years in prison, after he also agreed to testify against fellow extremists in the "Wolverine Watchmen" militia who were accused in the conspiracy. read more

Ty Garbin was the first to be convicted of scheming to abduct Whitmer from her vacation home. Since the FBI said it uncovered the conspiracy by members of the militia group, more than a dozen men have been charged in state or federal court.

Prosecutors said the suspected participants in the plot sought Whitmer's capture in retribution for wide-ranging public health orders imposed in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. read more

Violent threats have become an increasing factor in American politics, ranging from the hundreds of people who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, trying to overturn then-president Donald Trump's November 2020 election defeat, to phone threats made to election workers. read more

Whitmer, who served as a co-chair of Joe Biden's presidential campaign, has previously accused Republican Trump of hyping up far-right groups as he denounced COVID mitigation efforts that were carried out in states run by Democrats.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/se...lot-kidnap-michigan-governor-2022-02-07/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...YOIzzqAzFVjTNpr4JMS3R96ZnI9nf3P8QD6rRCBk

Iowa bill would require cameras in public school classrooms
A similar bill was proposed in Florida last month. Critics and teachers advocates say the bills are designed to censor classrooms and intimidate educators.
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Conservative lawmakers in Iowa introduced a bill this week that would require cameras to be installed in nearly every K-12 school classroom across the state, allowing parents to see livestreams.

Teachers advocates have criticized the effort as one designed to censor classrooms and intimidate educators who focus on subjects such as race and history.

The bill is the latest to be introduced by conservative legislators in states across the U.S., including Florida, who have launched efforts against what they say is critical race theory.

The Iowa bill, H.F. 2177, would require that cameras be placed in every public school classroom in the state, except for physical education and special education classes.

The cameras would feed to livestreams that could be viewed on the internet by parents, guardians and others.

Under the bill, teachers, administrators and other school staff members who fail to keep the cameras active and in working order or who “obstruct” the camera’s views could be fined up to 5 percent of their weekly salary per infraction. The cameras would be bought with funds already allocated to school districts.

The bill, sponsored by state Rep. Norlin Mommsen, a Republican who represents a rural district in eastern Iowa, comes amid a monthslong effort by state GOP lawmakers that critics say aims to limit what is allowed to be taught in public school classrooms.

Mommsen said the primary purpose of his bill is to “increase the involvement of parents in their children’s education.”

Education groups and unions immediately condemned the legislation as censorship.

"Some politicians around the country want to limit not only what history our kids can learn about and what books they can read, censor the truth of our history in some cases, and, now in Iowa, they want to install classroom cameras for live monitoring of teachers," said Becky Pringle, the president of the National Education Association, the largest educators union in the U.S.

“Instead of wasting public funds on monitoring equipment, we should employ additional qualified professionals, reduce class sizes, and provide more programming that helps students acquire the skills they need,” Pringle said by email.

Iowa State Education Association President Mike Beranek called the bill “completely outrageous and dangerous.”


Conservative groups that have been involved in efforts to ban the teaching of what they call critical race theory in public schools across the country have also recently proposed other bills that critics say are designed to regulate how and what educators may teach.

Meanwhile, public school administrators have been left to navigate tricky education politics intensified by state and national forces.

One such group, the Nevada Family Alliance, recently proposed placing body cameras on teachers to ensure they aren’t teaching critical race theory.

In the first three weeks of the year, more than 70 bills have been filed in 27 states to regulate the instruction of topics such as race, history and sexuality, according to an analysis published this week by PEN America, a free speech advocacy group. Advocates have said the sheer number of bills — as well as how severe many of them would be — is part of a robust effort by conservative lawmakers in GOP-controlled states to censor lessons surrounding those topics.

In some cases, the topics have been inaccurately described as “critical race theory” — the concept developed in the 1980s as a graduate-level academic framework to highlight and quantify the impacts of structural racism, including disparities among Black people and white people in policing and prosecution. It was rarely something likely to be taught in a school classroom.

Critics say some conservatives, including politicians like Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican and early opponent of critical race theory, have applied the term to ideas and books that they believe are too progressive or political for the classroom.

Last month, Republican lawmakers in Florida introduced a bill similar to the Iowa proposal, H.B. 1055, that would require cameras in classrooms and require teachers to wear microphones.

While the Florida legislation’s stated goal is to allow for more easily obtainable evidence of bullying or fighting in classrooms, a co-sponsor, Republican state Rep. Mike Beltran, said this month that the bill is designed to make sure teachers are “teaching the kids properly.”

Teachers groups and unions in the state have blasted the legislation as a tool for conservative lawmakers to “spy” on them.

Missouri state Sen. Cindy O’Laughlin, a vocal critic of critical race theory, last year called for legislation to require teachers to wear body cameras as a way for parents to object to what they're teaching.

Republican-led legislatures in Georgia, Texas and West Virginia have all passed laws in recent years allowing cameras in classrooms, under certain conditions.

I took this article from a newspaper by where I live on Facebook tonight-
I read through some of the replies and some are from teachers. Some of the replies are pretty good.
One was like if the parents wanted to know what I was teaching, I send home a syllabus at the beginning of every semester. Maybe the parents should actually read their kids syllabus or come to a parent teacher conference.

But another couple teachers addressed more real world problems in the day in which we live. One said that she has had many kids in her classroom that areFoster children, children in the middle of custody battles, children who have been emergency removed from homes due to abusive situations. What is their legal protection?

And another one said she was concerned about who was watching her kids-She had issues with predators watching her kids all day and how do you protect the kids,

I thought these were very well said

If a parent is concerned about a child in the classroom, maybe they should have the child in another school.

It is a bridge too far for me, and too Orwellian. (Big Brother).

So much for small government.

One step closer to New Gilead.

Sickos watching kids was exactly what I thought when this all started. And no, I'm not referring to JUST the parents.

Florida Senate committee passes "Don't Say Gay" bill that would bar LGBTQ discussions in schools

The Florida Senate Education Committee passed a controversial bill on Tuesday that would bar school districts from encouraging classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity. The Parental Rights in Education bill, commonly referred to the "Don't Say Gay" bill by its critics, would apply to such topics in primary grade levels, as well as in cases where the discussions are deemed "not age-appropriate."

The bill, proposed by Republican State Senator Dennis Baxley, would extend to student support services, including counseling, and would require school district personnel to give parents all information related to a student's "mental, emotional or physical health or well-being," unless it's believed that such disclosure would result in abuse. Parents would be able to sue districts that do not follow these requirements.

The bill's purpose, according to its text, is to "reinforce the fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children."

If Florida legislators pass the bill, it would go into effect on July 1, with all school district plans having to be updated by June 30, 2023.

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, who supports the bill, said at a roundtable in Miami on Monday that he doesn't approve of "injecting these concepts about choosing your gender" at schools.

"We've seen instances of students being told by different folks in school, 'Oh, don't worry. Don't pick your gender yet. Do all this other stuff.' They won't tell the parents about these discussions that are happening," DeSantis said. "That is entirely inappropriate. Schools need to be teaching kids to read, to write. They need to them them science, history. We need more civics."

DeSantis said he doesn't think such conversations are "going on in large numbers," but that he wants "to make sure that our schools are really focusing on the basics."

"We don't want them to be engines to be putting things like the CRT [critical race theory] that we talked about, things that are divisive and are not accurate of course when you start talking about some of the stuff that they're teaching with it, and making sure that we're really focusing on the basics," he said.

A 2019 survey from The Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) found that the school climate in Florida is "not safe" for most LGBTQ students as it is.

The vast majority of LGBTQ youth who responded to the survey said they regularly heard anti-LGBTQ remarks in schools, and about a quarter had experienced physical harassment at school. But 98% of respondents could identify at least one school staff member who was supportive.

Studies have shown that nationally, schools serve as a vital support system for LGBTQ youth.

The Trevor Project's 2021 National Survey on LGBTQ Youth Mental Health found that of the more than 82,000 youth who responded, only one-third considered their home LGBTQ-affirming, while 50% considered their school to be so.

The organization released a statement on Tuesday condemning Florida's proposed bill, saying it would result in "erasing LGBTQ identity, history, and culture — as well as LGBTQ students themselves." The organization also said it would effectively allow schools to "out" students to their parents without their consent.

"Banning speech about sexual orientation and gender identity in Florida classrooms would not only ben an infringement on civil rights, it would erase entire chapters of history, classic literature, and critical health information from textbooks, to say nothing of erasing students themselves," Sam Ames, the Trevor Project's director of advocacy and government affairs, said in a statement.

The bill has drawn significant backlash, including from the White House.

"I want every member of the LGBTQI+ community — especially the kids who will be impacted by this hateful bill — to know that you are loved and accepted just as you are. I have your back, and my Administration will continue to fight for the protections and safety you deserve," said a tweet from President Biden.

"Every parent hopes that our leaders will ensure their children's safety, protection, and freedom," a White House spokesperson said in a statement reported by The Associated Press. "Today, conservative politicians in Florida rejected those basic values by advancing legislation that is designed to target and attack the kids who need support the most — LGBTQI+ students, who are already vulnerable to bullying and violence just for being themselves."

Students and LGBTQ advocates have been protesting the measure for days across the state.

"It's a radical roll back of the calendar," Scott Galvin, executive director of Safe Schools South Florida, told CBS Miami last week. "It will stop teachers and schools from talking to kids about LGBTQ issues and it will stop them from talking about gay issues among themselves."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-dont-say-gay-bill-lgbtq-schools/

Republicans are homophobic as hell. Shameful legislation.

I AM????

Reading
Writing
Arithmatic

You conveniently forgot about History and Science.

You have to believe in the stuff.
ARE YOU ALL REPUBLICANS? No, you seem to be the guy saying, “I'm an outlier, don't blame me for what those other Republicans are doing”. But many of you are homophobic, or we wouldn't be seeing this ridiculous attack on education.

Sufficed before the industrial revolution… Yet more than half the country was and still is illiterate. And none of those three teach you how to reason. That bit often gets lost in these conversations, like in this little nugget of Throw Wisdom.

BTW – It's arithmetic with an E. Just saying.

Then clarify your initial statement when you make it. Your words were: "Republicans are homophobic as hell". I'm a republican. I'm not homophobic.

Well you can't tell that by looking at your party as a whole. Your problem, not mine.

Arch, you are a smart guy, so I know you are purposely using flawed linguistics to to distract from OCD's point. Clearly because you cannot refute it through real discussion.

When OCD refers to republicans, he is referring to the republican party as an institution, not about every singe member of the party.

The Washington Commanders sexually harassed their female employees. This refers to the team nto every single member

Russia is getting ready to invade the Ukraine. If they do, we will say the Russians invaded the Ukraine. Again referring to the institution not implying that every single Russian invaded the Ukraine or that every single Russian supports the idea.

The United States Army built a military base in some foreign country. It is the institution of the Army that built the base, not every single member.

Etc, etc, etc. Simple 8th grade English.
You are purposely trying to obfuscate the discussion because you know it is an argument that you can't otherwise win.

A Republican Texas House candidate and former teacher complained that she couldn't let her students laugh at transgender classmates
Wed, February 9, 2022, 2:18 PM

A Texas House candidate complained at a forum that she couldn't let "kids laugh at" transgender classmates.

Shelley Luther was recorded by the Houston Chronicle speaking about her experiences teaching transgender students.

"I am not comfortable with the transgenders," she was recorded saying.

A Texas House of Representatives candidate and former teacher was recorded at a forum complaining that she couldn't let "kids laugh at" transgender classmates.

Shelley Luther, a salon owner and former school Spanish teacher who is running to represent Texas House District 62 in northeast Texas, was recorded by the Houston Chronicle while speaking at a candidate forum on Saturday.

In the recording, Luther can be heard speaking about the transgender community and her experience teaching transgender students.

"I am not comfortable with the transgenders," she said. "The kids that they brought in my classroom when they said that this kid is transgendering into a different sex, that I couldn't have kids laugh at them … like, other kids got in trouble for having transgender kids in my class."


According to the Houston Chronicle, Luther also said that transgender children in Texas schools are a reason she supports "school choice," or a parent's decision to choose what type of school their child attends.

Luther did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.

The Republican candidate rose to prominence in mid-2020, when Texas Gov. Greg Abbott declared that hair salons and barbershops would be forced to close amidst the pandemic.

Luther, the owner of a salon in Dallas, defied the order and kept her business open.

Despite being sentenced to seven days in jail, she was released after just two, CBS News reported at the time.

Shortly after the order was lifted, Sen. Ted Cruz visited Luther's shop for a haircut and said she was "wrongly imprisoned when she refused to apologize for trying to earn a living."

Luther's campaign website says that she is also against allowing "Chinese Nationals into our colleges where they can obtain classified information, steal technology, and essentially learn how to defeat the United States."

Luther previously ran for a position in the Texas State Senate in 2020, losing by 13 percentage points in a runoff election to Republican Drew Springer.

Her current competition in the race to become a representative is current state Rep. Reggie Smith, who went unchallenged in the 2020 Republican primary and went on to handily defeat his Democratic challenger in the general election.

The Texas Republican primary, which will determine if Luther makes it to the general election ballot, is on March 1, 2022.



https://news.yahoo.com/republican-texas-house-candidate-former-191843734.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Similarly, there are many on the left that paint with way-to-broad of a brush. Those people don't seem to know the difference between conservative and Republican, much less the difference between big-R and little-r. So along those lines, I think arch's response is easier to understand.

A race to the bottom.
President Camacho will happen in my lifetime. (donny captured his stupidity but not his charm or style.)

I just don't understand why people can't accept that people are different. You don't have to like their differences, but at least show common decency and respect. At this is not a party line things either, I see it from all walks of life and people.

You are definitely correct in that too many people judge others by group rather than individual. It takes a lot less effort.

As for arch's response, I think he knew exactly what OCD meant but was using a common confusion to distract from the discussion. I could be wrong and will let arch clarify when he gets back on the board. But I've seen him use that technique numerous times before.

That's why I drink Gatorade. It's got electrolytes.

It’s what plants crave.

I’ve been thinking about this a lot. There’s a couple factors at play, IMHO:

1. Distance. The curds have essentially separated from the whey over time. Urban sprawl, neighborhoods, geographic divides, etc. People have geographically located themselves with other like-minded people. People are not - especially in COVID times - exposed regularly to people who differ from them. That allows for dehumanization of people who are different.

2. Dopamine. People have a natural instinct to seek out things that make them feel good. One way is to reinforce our own beliefs with like-minded people. Creating the echo chambers, so to speak. You can look at various threads here (Thanks Y’all) to see how riled up people get in beliefs without substance or question.

3. Fight or flight. On the flip side, now that we are geographically separated and have formed our echo chamber, we now hear things occasionally that are different which causes a fear response. Our survival instinct tells us to get together with our tribes and find a way to kill what we perceive as a threat. Our empathetic response is disabled, because like I said in 1, we have dehumanized the source of that opposing view.

4. Media and modern politicians have noticed and exploited points 2 and 3 above, reinforcing both our dopamine and our fear. It’s a simple equation. They exploit our animalistic instincts - which are rooted to our survival - thus overwhelming our advanced evolved human intelligence. This allows them to maintain a state of control in their search for power, fame and wealth. They also take advantage of point 1 above through gerrymandering.

I think there’s a lot more too, but that’s just a bird’s eye view of some of my shower thoughts on the topic.

You might enjoy reading High Conflict by Amanda Ripley. She explores all of the things you mentioned and how these instincts fail to actually solve conflicts.

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This is disgusting!

Thanks! I’ll have to check that out.

I know this is a common response to a lot of your posts…but…

Huh??