DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus What Republicans have become part 3

One problem. Canada is already a democracy.

Lolz.

#democracy

I feel bad for the police. They are in a pretty tough spot and have next to no choice to comply with this Act.

I think the Canadian Government is now all-in and hoping/praying something extreme happens from the truckers that they can latch on to to justify this whole thing.....even after all these days of seemingly peaceful protesting. As tensions rise, it definitely could happen.

I'm just hoping, in the end, it will be 93% peaceful.

Yeah, it's a real tough spot. There will probably be incidences that paint the police as using unnecessary brutality, such as the video below, kneeing someone to the ground when it appears as if he was under some kind of duress. Not a good look when there are people in the crowd shouting that he's a wounded veteran.




Maybe if they keep the reporters out, it will not make the mainstream media.






As far as 93% peaceful, too late, as long as one person resists it will be 100% violent. You've got to subscribe to the tricky math to understand.

"You see", there were over 10,000 protests during the "hot summer of mostly non-violence". With so many protests, and a slide rule, you can somehow evenly compare 100 nights of arson, vandalism and violence in Portland to a peaceful rally of 12 people in front of a CVS is Podunk, Iowa.

I hope Biden takes a lesson on how to deal with the alt-right here.



/purple

... and the 40% of truckers that are minorities. Unless you think minorities also think their “white identity” is under attack.

#fakenews

I didn't say anything about white identity, did I? Hmm. Trying to make the connection… unless you mean the “alt-right” that I used. That's all Republicans still in the party today. Alt-right. The right exited and took what was left of the sanity on your side with it.

Ah, so all Republicans are now alt-right. I'll make a mental note. Question though, since you use both terms so freely... are they also Nazis?

He thinks everyone who leans right is an alt right, because he moved so far left that he fell off a cliff and became brain damaged.

Should I shed a tear for the party of insurrection? It's not like we weren't yelling that you were heading in a bad direction for four years… Republicans earned their labels.

Except no one was moving in a bad direction. Trump was on an island with some bad actors around him. Most right moderates dont want much to do with him.

You just like to post hate about everyone who doesn't fall in line with your extremist agenda.

True conservatives are about as much "the party of insurrection", in the real world, as you are "the voice of reason" on Dawgtalkers.

I might agree if the Republican Party itself hadn't called the Jan 6th attack legitimate political discourse. Or if most of it's leadership wasn't still promoting known and proven lies about a stolen election and mass voter fraud.

Or if they didn't censor true conservatives who have simply spoken the truth.

Or if various members of the GOP hadn't reacted so passionately during the attack - only to then slowly try to spin the attack saying "you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit".

Or if the Former Republican Speaker of the House hadn't suggested that members of the Jan 6th Commission could go to jail for trying to uncover the truth.

But as it is - it sure does look like the majority of the GOP, which is still controlled by Trump, is not at all far off from being 'the Party of the Insurrection'. True conservatives? Not so much. Just the politicians.

It's hilarious to watch the same people who called for them to use the military to clear the streets of our own cities only months ago to now act like their hair is on fire when Canada is using the same strong armed tactics they promoted here. #fauxoutrage

Please name one of these mysterious, imaginary people.

Let me give you an even better example.

Why Republicans Are Passing Laws Protecting Drivers Who Hit Protesters

https://slate.com/business/2021/04/drivers-hit-protesters-laws-florida-oklahoma-republicans.html

Trump says he will deploy military if state officials can't contain protest violence

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-considering-move-invoke-insurrection-act-n1221326

Only when military leaders and governors spoke up did Trump back down from doing this.

Where were you when Oklahoma and Florida were passing these laws? Where were you when Trump was claiming he would use the military against our own people? These things were going on in your own country. Are you saying many Trump supporters didn't agree with him?

Yes freezing bank accounts is so much worse than running people over with your car.

What's even odder is the people endorsing strong arm tactics over peaceful protests NOW are the same that months ago were saying don't use force to stop the "peaceful" protests in our cities - let them block the streets, they have the right.

So you have nothing to say about legalizing running over protestors and Trump threatening to use the military against our own people. And now you to want to chime in on Canada? So now Trudeau is acting more like Trump and it's suddenly an issue with you guys. lmao

It's odd how so many claim Trudeau was some kind of uber liberal and was lambasted for it. Now he's not acting that way and gets lambasted for it. You guys really need to make up your minds.

Define "so many" and how it gets funneled into "you guys".

You have a lot of imaginary friends.

Now criticizing the seizure of bank accounts means you endorse running over bodies with cars.

You, as usual, just put words in my mouth. But, what you think I said Is NOT what I said.

Your first link contains the phrase "protection for those that UNINTENTIONALLY......." and also "if they feared for their lives....."

Your second link - shoot, you even posted it: "Trump says he will deploy military if state officials can't contain protest violence".

Notice the use of the word IF, as well as the phrase "can't contain protest VIOLENCE".

"If a city or state refuses to take the actions necessary to defend the life and property of their residents, then I will deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem for them," Trump said, referring to himself as "your president of law and order and an ally of all peaceful protesters."

That's from your link.

Yes. Trump threatened to use the military if city mayors refused to stop the riots that came after the protests. How does that change anything? Since when is it okay to use the military against our own citizens? And exactly what does "in fear for your life" mean? That's a very open statement that means very different things to many different people. It's a perfect gotchya thing open to interpretation. Can you define exactly what actions it would take to be "in fear of your life"?

You always say the federal government overreaches and gets involved in dictating to states and local government. Right up until the moment they say or threaten to do it. Now you're defending Trump for threatening to do exactly that.

jc

want to know how unproblematic Canada is?

this is the biggest news story coming out of the country in years.

It's more a US right-wing hair on fire story than a Canadian one. The protestors are moving when the police come in, from what I've watched the last couple of days. Protest are still happening. Arrest are being made, but it all seems mostly peaceful. But I did hear they used 'chemical' irritants in a report this morning.

Reading is fundamental. In your own link, the words were "...use military IF the cities and states REFUSE to take action to protect the life and property....."

That has NOTHING to do with peaceful protests, whatsoever.

He's been calling out imaginary people who said imaginary things to make an imaginary point.

jc

aye, Tucker Carlson is getting real cringey with his comments on AOC. this is starting to come off like incel nonsense.

Yes but it's a chance to make a progressive look bad. carpe diem !

His parents had a schedule for dropping him on his head. America will be a better place when Tucker is no more.

And now you are trying to convince people you care about Canada. And so trump threatened to bring in military if Democratic mayors didn't do what he told them to and you approve. So much for your argument that you think the federal government shouldn't interfere with state and local government. Instead you back strong arm tactics by a president. The exact same thing you disapprove of in Canada.

Once again, putting words on someone's mouth that they never mentioned and never said.

Trump said "...IF the cities/states can't control the VIOLENT protests...."

You, sir, are the one that advocated letting peaceful protests happen. But now all of a sudden, you want the gov't. involved in peaceful protests.

Yes, Trump told them to stop the violence or he would send in troops. Was it violent protests he had gassed for his photo op in front of a church in Washington D.C.? you certainly weren't on here concerned when that happened. Unlike you, I don't get involved in the politics of foreign countries. It's their country to deal with, not mine. I can't vote there and have no involvement in how they run their country.

I was and am an advocate for peaceful protests in my country. I care about the politics is my country. I care when the president of my country threatens to unleash the military on our citizens. You didn't seem to care about that one bit. But now suddenly you're raising a stink about Canada? Yeah, right.

Again, putting false words in my mouth.

No, I'm pointing out the words that never came out of your mouth. And you are on here arguing about what's happening in Canada while saying you don't care about it. Maybe you need to start thinking about what is and isn't coming out of your mouth.

Here in Virginia things are looking up since we elected our new Governor.
Taxes are being cut, voters are being treated like adults again, our new AG has informed
our Progressive DA's they will either do their jobs or he will do it for them.

Our new government is aware they were elected to serve the people, not we the people serving them.

Let Freedom Ring!

jc

meanwhile in America:

GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Speaks At White Nationalist Conference

https://www.yahoo.com/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-speaks-white-031631678.html

ORLANDO, Fla. — Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) spoke at a white nationalist conference in Florida on Friday evening.

Greene, a QAnon conspiracist and rabidly anti-trans Republican, was the surprise speaker at the third annual America First Political Action Conference in Orlando, organized by white nationalist figurehead Nick Fuentes.

Fuentes, an antisemite and racist who attended the deadly 2017 white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, and who was recently subpoenaed for his involvement in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, excitedly introduced Greene as the featured speaker from behind a lectern inside the Marriott Orlando World Center, according to a livestream of the event. (HuffPost was denied entrance to AFPAC.)

In her speech, Greene referred to the assembled AFPAC crowd — among them prominent right-wing extremists who have been photographed giving the Nazi salute and reciting the infamous “14 words,” a white supremacist slogan — as “canceled Americans.”

“You’ve been handed the responsibility to fight for our Constitution and stand for our freedoms, and stop the Democrats who are the communist party of the United States of America,” Greene said.

She also took time to attack transgender people, claiming Democrats have destroyed “gender” and “pronouns.”

Her speech was immediately followed by a series of virulently racist and homophobic diatribes from prominent extremists.

“They want to replace you,” said Vincent James Foxx, a former propagandist for the white supremacist street-fighting club Rise Above Movement. “Western white culture is the majority culture, to which even non-whites assimilate into today — and they’re better off for it.”

Then far-right podcaster Stew Peters called for the execution of Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, whom he falsely blamed for causing the coronavirus pandemic.

“Tony Fauci literally unleashed a bio weapon on the world. Why is this man running around free instead of hanging on the end of a noose somewhere?”

The crowd roared.

Greene’s presence at AFPAC underscores the thin line separating the Republican Party from the white nationalist extremist movement in America. Greene, after all, was not the only public official who spoke at AFPAC on Friday night.

Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.), who spoke at last year’s AFPAC, made an appearance via a pre-recorded video, as did Arizona state Sen. Wendy Rogers and Idaho Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin, both Republicans.

Greene is also scheduled to speak Saturday morning from the main stage of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), the pre-eminent annual gathering of the conservative movement in America, a few hours before former President Donald Trump is set to speak from the same stage.

HuffPost also spotted Greene at CPAC on Friday — only a few miles from the site of AFPAC — where she was treated like a celebrity, posing for photos and conducting interviews with right-wing media outlets.

Last year, Greene was stripped of her committee assignments for promoting violence against Democrats.

_____________

republicans are just open on their comfortability with racist now.