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Garrett Wilson says it would be 'awesome' to reunite with Baker Mayfield
Wilson and Mayfield are both Austin natives and practiced together during the pandemic

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INDIANAPOLIS — Garrett Wilson has already developed a tight bond with Browns QB Baker Mayfield.

Wilson, a top receiving prospect from Ohio State who likely will be a first-round pick in the 2022 draft, has plenty of football experience with Mayfield due to a connection with Lake Travis High School. Both Wilson and Mayfield attended the school, with Mayfield graduating in 2013 and Wilson graduating in 2019.

Wilson, an Austin native, said Wednesday at the NFL Combine that he practiced several times with Mayfield, who's also from Austin, when they were both in Texas during the pandemic. The two have a good relationship considering neither haven't played or the same team — or even the same league — but Wilson certainly expressed interest in furthering that relationship even more at the NFL level.

"Baker's my guy," Wilson said at the NFL Combine. "He was always a little older than me and he would come back and he coached 7-on-7. During the quarantine, we actually threw together a couple times. So I know that Baker's a great player, and we have a good relationship."

There's a possibility that their relationship could grow even stronger in Cleveland.

Wilson has been one of the most highly mocked players to possibly land with the Browns with their 13th overall pick of the draft. The Browns are likely to seek receivers in the draft and free agency since only three receivers — Jarvis Landry, Donovan Peoples-Jones and Anthony Schwartz — are under contract for 2022, and Wilson certainly appears to possess the kind of talent that could help the passing attack take a jump.

Wilson ended his three-year Buckeyes career with his best season yet in 2021 and totaled 1,058 receiving yards and 12 touchdowns. He, as well as Drake London, Treylon Burks and fellow teammate Chris Olave are among the receivers in the discussion to go first off the draft board, and Wilson is seeking to solidify himself this week Indianapolis as the receiver most worthy to be drafted first.

"As long as it's a good fit," he said. "A team taking a risk on me and believing in me, that means a lot, but as far as what it comes with, I gotta prove myself, like I said, once I get in the facility."

Wilson could be a good fit with the Browns for several reasons. Aside from the need the Browns have at receiver, Wilson, who said he met with Cleveland this week, is capable of playing both the outside and slot positions, which would give head coach Kevin Stefanski the ability to maximize Wilson in the offense. His reliable pair of hands are what the Browns are looking for to boost a passing attack that ranked 27th in the league in 2021.

Add in the fact that Wilson will be able to keep his football roots in the state of Ohio and how he's already built a relationship with Mayfield, and it's easy to see why the Browns could have a heavy interest in Wilson when the first round of the draft begins on April 28.

"I'm open to playing anywhere," Wilson said. "I've been up in Ohio, I've been down in Texas, I don't mind playing anywhere. Can play in the cold, can play in the hot. So I'm excited to see where I end up."

Any receiver, though, would enjoy having some chemistry already built with a quarterback before they take their first practice snap at the NFL level, and that's exactly what Wilson has with Mayfield, who earned the admiration of Wilson after he won the Heisman Trophy in 2017.

Wilson is keeping his sights set on being prepared to play for any team, although for a few brief moments Wednesday, he envisioned himself playing with Mayfield in Cleveland — and that scenario would be fine by him if that's where he lands in two months.

"It would be great to link up with Baker," Wilson said. "Baker's someone that did all the things that I wanted to do. Being a Heisman winner, that's stuff you can only dream about. So watching him ball when I was younger, that was really awesome.

"Having that opportunity to maybe have that happen again would be awesome."


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Prediction:

A week after free agency starts wide receiver won’t seem to be as big of a need as it was prior to free agency.

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Wow, what a nice showing from the WR class today at the combine; just confirms what I thought - this is a very deep WR draft!

As far as the DL prospects, I've really got my eye on Travon Walker and Demarvin Leal. They just match all the things that it seems AB really values in a draft prospect and in the DL. Last year, he talked a lot about the DL being able to have position flexibility, and both of these guys have the ability to play DE or DT in passing situations. Walker is more a DE that can bump down inside (similar to Clowney), while Leal is more of a 3T DT that can move out to DE if needed (like Malik Jackson). They are both super athletic and former 5-star recruits.

They just seem to fit the AB for what he looks for in the defensive line.

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Originally Posted by cfrs15
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A week after free agency starts wide receiver won’t seem to be as big of a need as it was prior to free agency.

Cedrick Wilson isn't that good! tongue

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I like Demarvin Leal.

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This may not be draft, but , if Emmanuel Ogbah DE, Miami, formerly of Cleveland, is a free agent, then the Browns' should Coax this guy back into the fold, and have him take any missed time by Malik McDowell. Problem solved. thumbsup
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Originally Posted by OrangeCrush
Wow, what a nice showing from the WR class today at the combine; just confirms what I thought - this is a very deep WR draft!

As far as the DL prospects, I've really got my eye on Travon Walker and Demarvin Leal. They just match all the things that it seems AB really values in a draft prospect and in the DL. Last year, he talked a lot about the DL being able to have position flexibility, and both of these guys have the ability to play DE or DT in passing situations. Walker is more a DE that can bump down inside (similar to Clowney), while Leal is more of a 3T DT that can move out to DE if needed (like Malik Jackson). They are both super athletic and former 5-star recruits.

They just seem to fit the AB for what he looks for in the defensive line.

I agree with all this. Question is: would you draft either at #13? I find it hard to believe either make it to our 2nd round pick.


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I agree, but I'm curious if they decide to play hardball with him given they have Newsome and Greedy. Greedy has been meh, but Newsome looked fantastic given he was a rookie. We have some depth and AJ Green could take another step forward in his development. Our CB room is really strong.

Not to mention that Greedy has missed more games than Ward even though Ward has been here one more season.


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I thought Wilson looked really good at the Combine.

He moves so well. He was thrown some bad balls and you can see how he adjusts his body.

Really like him.

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Wow, what a nice showing from the WR class today at the combine; just confirms what I thought - this is a very deep WR draft!

As far as the DL prospects, I've really got my eye on Travon Walker and Demarvin Leal. They just match all the things that it seems AB really values in a draft prospect and in the DL. Last year, he talked a lot about the DL being able to have position flexibility, and both of these guys have the ability to play DE or DT in passing situations. Walker is more a DE that can bump down inside (similar to Clowney), while Leal is more of a 3T DT that can move out to DE if needed (like Malik Jackson). They are both super athletic and former 5-star recruits.

They just seem to fit the AB for what he looks for in the defensive line.

I agree with all this. Question is: would you draft either at #13? I find it hard to believe either make it to our 2nd round pick.

I expect Walker to be in play to be picked at #13 along with Karlaftis and Jermaine Johnson. Leal I'm hoping to fall to the 2nd round. I expect both to do very well at the combine and get some buzz.

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We can forget about Wilson at #13. He will be long gone, and probably the first receiver off the board. A shame. But the draft is deep enough at the position to get a potential #1 and even a second one in Round 2 if we still need one after free agency.

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Wide receiver class is stacked.

Christian Watson that dude looks amazing. Skyy is legit.

Dotson, Olave, There are like 15 guys who are damn good.

London and Williams did not workout and they are really good.

There is no worry about getting a receiver in this draft.

I am huge on London but Wilson is special.

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Originally Posted by CapCity Dawg
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I agree, but I'm curious if they decide to play hardball with him given they have Newsome and Greedy. Greedy has been meh, but Newsome looked fantastic given he was a rookie. We have some depth and AJ Green could take another step forward in his development. Our CB room is really strong.

Not to mention that Greedy has missed more games than Ward even though Ward has been here one more season.

Somewhat different due to Greedy missing an entire saeaso due to 1 injury. I don't think the comparison is apples to apples.


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I am huge on London but Wilson is special.

I really like Wilson because of that body control, the tape I watched showed how special he is at running and setting up his routes ... London is a different type of WR imo - he's going to be more AJ Green/Moss types - less route tree - more going and getting jump balls in 1 on 1 match ups on the side line or running post routes. Not to say he can't do more ... but (some) people commented how Burrows just tossed the ball up for Lamar Chase to go get .... I think that will be London's forte. No bad thing for Baker/Browns....

Watson from Nth Dakota is in that same mold. Can take him a round later too. I don't think he's gonna be their in rnd 3.

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From a pure production standpoint I wonder what kind of difference there will be from say pick 13 to pick 45 from the receivers in this draft.

If someone offers to move up from say the 20's to get to 13. I think I would do that in a heart beat.

We could get both a pass rusher and a couple receivers.

And add quality to the roster at other positions.

If we stay with our picks. We will still come out golden. I love where we stand in this draft.

If I am Berry. I don't let Clowney or Njoku get away. If we hold on to them and score in this draft we will be in good shape.

I would be happy if Jarvis took a paycut and we signed one vet receiver. If Jarvis walks. For sure add a vet.

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I am 100% convinced we can get good receivers in the 2nd and 3rd rounds if that is the route we want to take. We don't have to take one in the 1st round to get a very good player. Many of the people on this board seem fixated on the receiver position, and I get that. I am just saying we don't need to take one in the 1st to get a good player. Receiver isn't our only area of need and we can't put all of our focus on that one position.

Right now we are all flying blind. Once free agency clears, we will have a much better view of exactly what areas are weak. Reports are the Cowboys are about to release Cooper. Somebody is going to sign him. I am not saying we will or should sign him, I am simply saying the odds are good we will sign someone, and all of a sudden the need diminishes.

What may be a need today may not be a need tomorrow. Plus, FA is where you fill some needs. Rookies no matter how high can't always be relied on to fill a need. It usually takes them some time to do that.


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I certainly agree. I'm not opposed to drafting a WR in round 1 but this draft class is very deep at the WR position and after the smoke of FA clears, I don't think there will be some desperate need to draft a WR in round 1.


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I hope not, FA addition or not. I want the player selected to be the right play. Not the wrong player for the wrong reasons.


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Originally Posted by mgh888
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I am huge on London but Wilson is special.

I really like Wilson because of that body control, the tape I watched showed how special he is at running and setting up his routes ... London is a different type of WR imo - he's going to be more AJ Green/Moss types - less route tree - more going and getting jump balls in 1 on 1 match ups on the side line or running post routes. Not to say he can't do more ... but (some) people commented how Burrows just tossed the ball up for Lamar Chase to go get .... I think that will be London's forte. No bad thing for Baker/Browns....

Watson from Nth Dakota is in that same mold. Can take him a round later too. I don't think he's gonna be their in rnd 3.

* Some times and data from the Combine.
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/202...cts-40-yard-dash-vertical-jump-and-more/


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I was watching his tape before the Combine.

Very impressive. He is a long strider. But damn he can go.

Catches the ball well. Very athletic guy. He can jump as well.

He will rise up the charts. So much talent in the receivers.


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From memory he has a bigger set of hands too - 10" +

Skyy Moore also 10"+ hands. Buckets like that are handy for pass catchers.


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I like Skyy Moore. I posted up some vid several days back. He should be a very good NFL player


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I believe we need to stay focused on the cornerstone pieces QB, OT, Pass-Rusher, and Corner (no specific order) at #13.

Pass-Rusher may not be a DE. It could be a DT or OLB.

I wouldn't rule out OT either.

Wide receiver could still be in play for the simple fact KS and AB emphasized it's a passing game. They made reference you must stop the pass as well as pass the ball.

Yet, analytically, the valued positions in the first round are QB, OT, Pass-Rusher, and Corner.

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Is it wrong to want Olave over Wilson?

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Originally Posted by bonefish
I thought Wilson looked really good at the Combine.

He moves so well. He was thrown some bad balls and you can see how he adjusts his body.

Really like him.

Talk is he looked the best at the combine. Plus he has a good history with Baker and wants to be here.

??? is do we go for size or speed...#1 for me is HANDS


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These stats look like an upgrade. We could go with one less TE (Hooper?) and maybe should, and plug this in for some folks.


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I like Skyy Moore. I posted up some vid several days back. He should be a very good NFL player




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Originally Posted by cfrs15
Is it wrong to want Olave over Wilson?

Olave is a first round talent also. Great route runner, clearly as fast. I don't think he is quite as explosive and I think he is a little leaner. I'd be happy with either honestly - but I think 13 is too high for Olave. And my preference is still Wilson.

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Is it wrong to want Olave over Wilson?
Of the 3 I like Jaxon the most. Jaxon Smith-Njigba the sophomore Wr at Ohio State.
(Now why, why would I like him? It is in those few and far between moments when on the field it is displayed during a game, that a player makes a big play at a big time against a tough scenario of competition, and you see something that you don't see all the time. That is why I like Jaxon the best of the 3. It won't matter this year.


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Hard to fail with the receivers we will have a shot at.

Wilson is a can't miss guy. So, is London.

i think we will select a pass rusher at 13. Then come back in the second for a receiver.

Even if Clowney stays I think we go pass rusher.

We can still find a great receiver in the second round. The Combine may have pushed Christian Watson up the Board.

But he would be a great second round pick. Skyy Moore as well.

I am confident in Berry.

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Originally Posted by bonefish
Hard to fail with the receivers we will have a shot at.


After watching the Alabama-Arkansas game, Treylon Burks was my #1 receiver in this draft. Then I saw somewhere that he doesn't block well in the run game. THen a read a criticism that he runs lazy routes when he isn't the primary target. Then he had a combine workout the was less than anticipated and a former GM (don't remember which one) commented that either he was prepared and just didn't workout well or he wasn't prepared both of which raise red flags for one reason or another. He wasn't as far as to say if it was that he was unprepared then his NFL comparison is Ashon Jeffries.

To me, one of the top factors in separating out highly talented players is their desire for greatness. I don't know Burks, and I have only ever watched him in that one game which was impressive. So I can't comment of the validity of those observations. But if they are true to any significant extent then he drops far on my draft board


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Originally Posted by OrangeCrush
Wow, what a nice showing from the WR class today at the combine; just confirms what I thought - this is a very deep WR draft!

As far as the DL prospects, I've really got my eye on Travon Walker and Demarvin Leal. They just match all the things that it seems AB really values in a draft prospect and in the DL. Last year, he talked a lot about the DL being able to have position flexibility, and both of these guys have the ability to play DE or DT in passing situations. Walker is more a DE that can bump down inside (similar to Clowney), while Leal is more of a 3T DT that can move out to DE if needed (like Malik Jackson). They are both super athletic and former 5-star recruits.

They just seem to fit the AB for what he looks for in the defensive line.

Walker had a great day! He would look great lining up across from Garrett! I definitely think he will be an option at 13, if he makes it that far now.

Leal had a very disappointing day. I thought he'd test much better than that, which is concerning. I think he will be there at our 2nd pick, and might be available later in the 2nd round if we want to move up from the 3rd.

And Jordan Davis! OMG! He might be in play at #13 for us, but with how our front office values pass rush, I doubt he would be our pick. I would be legit worried if he ended up on the Ravens or Steelers (along with a couple other defensive players), but I think they both go with OL in the first round this year, which would be a relief! But we'll have to see how free agency goes before we can decide on what needs each team has.

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After the numbers he put up, he might not be available at #13


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It's my opinion that, almost as important as the measurables and the tape, is a WR's attitude. I don't begrudge a guy that wants the ball all the time, but that's not the offense we run. There's room in the offense for top tier wr, but he has to know and accept that he's playing a role just like everyone else.


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Originally Posted by oobernoober
It's my opinion that, almost as important as the measurables and the tape, is a WR's attitude. I don't begrudge a guy that wants the ball all the time, but that's not the offense we run. There's room in the offense for top tier wr, but he has to know and accept that he's playing a role just like everyone else.

Right, but how many top tier receivers play in a offense like that? For that matter, how many top tier receivers think like that? Just my observation here, but receivers tend to be fairly self centered people.


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Travon Walker at 272 pounds looks incredible.

Super athletic looking guy. Agile, smooth, quick, powerful.

I would have no problem taking him.

Jeremaine Johnson looks similar but lighter. Both guys look damn good. Karlaftis looks good as well.

Walker looks like a top five guy. It would be great getting him at 13.

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I know the draft is a risk - and I know that there is probably a case in most drafts that can be turned into a "careful what you hype up" - but with so so many EDGE guys all flying up the draft boards, it made me think of the year that Myles Garrett was drafted. There was even some crazy talk about Myles not being the best DE in that years class after the combine.

Tell me who this guy is:

Scouting Report:

"Explosive defender who combines strength, quickness, and a muscle-car motor to drive him around the field making play after play. Has the hands and feet to be a quick-win specialist and the size to fit as a 4-3 or 3-4 defensive end who can reduce inside for pass-rush downs. He has all the athletic traits to become a high-impact player and possesses more than enough skill and talent to believe he will continue to elevate his game as a pro. Thomas has the potential to become the best defender from this draft class and a future all-pro." — Lance Zierlein, NFL.com


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PLAYER NAME AND STATS

Whoever we pick I hope we get it right !

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The Browns are in a excellent position in this draft.

Pick 13 with two picks in the 3rd and 4th round.

We are in a good spot to move if necessary in any direction.

The draft is top heavy in areas of need DE/WR.

With our mid round extra picks there is good depth in this draft. We should be able to get some good players to develop into future starters or good reserves.

In the end I believe this will be a very good draft.

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