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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3109760DAVIE, Fla. -- Ricky Williams' suspension ended after more than 18 months Wednesday when he was reinstated by the NFL, and the winless Miami Dolphins may welcome him back. The 2002 league rushing champion was scheduled to fly to South Florida for a physical Thursday and meet with coach Cam Cameron, said Williams' agent, Leigh Steinberg. The first-year Miami coach, whose team is 0-9, said he talked with Williams by phone for "five or six minutes" Wednesday, but hadn't made a decision about activating him. "I want to see where he is, and also let him know where we're headed, and we'll go from there," Cameron said. Cameron has been mum for months regarding whether he would want Williams back. But Steinberg said he was encouraged by a phone conversation Wednesday with Matt Thomas, Dolphins general counsel-football administration. "His indication was they were interested in Ricky," Steinberg said. "The spirit of the discussion was welcoming. It was a very similar discussion to what you would have regarding a draft choice or any returning player. The only contingent was whether they would have him practice Friday or Monday." SportsNation Should the NFL have reinstated Ricky Williams? Yes No The Dolphins offered no immediate comment on Williams' reinstatement. His return would be only part of backfield shakeup -- rookie quarterback John Beck was promoted to the first team Wednesday and will make his NFL debut Sunday at Philadelphia. Williams met last week with league administrators who had raised concerns even though doctors at a Boston-area treament center where Williams spent a good portion of four months were very supportive for his reinstatement, sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen. The administrators of the substance abuse policy were satisfied with Williams' response to their concerns, sources told ESPN, clearing the path for Goodell to reinstate him. Williams also had written Goodell a personal letter of appeal that accompanied the medical data regarding his treatment since he had a positive test in April, which extended his one-year suspension. With or without you Since the Dolphins traded for Ricky Williams prior to the 2002 season, he has played 43 games in a Miami uniform and missed 46 games due to suspensions or coming back from suspensions. With Ricky Without Ricky Games 43 46 W-L 26-17 12-34 Rush YPG 132.1 100.5 Total YPG 328.7 300.0 The 30-year-old Williams, who has played in only 12 games since the start of the 2004 season, was suspended in April 2006 after violating the league drug policy for the fourth time. His return was delayed when he tested positive again for marijuana last spring. He played in the Canadian Football League last season and applied for reinstatement Oct. 1. Williams is eligible to attend team meetings and practice immediately, but the earliest he would be allowed to play in a game would be against Pittsburgh on Monday night, Nov. 26. The team will have a roster exemption for up to two weeks if and when he starts practicing. "Ricky worked extremely hard to meet the requirements for reinstatement," said his attorney, David Cornwell. "He is grateful for commissioner Goodell's decision. Ricky is committed to making the most of the opportunity to rejoin the NFL." Williams rushed for 3,225 yards in the 2002-03 seasons after being traded to the Dolphins from New Orleans. He retired in 2004, traveling in India and Australia before returning to the Dolphins in 2005, when he ran for 743 yards alternating with rookie Ronnie Brown. Brown is on injured reserve, leaving the woeful Dolphins short on running backs. As part of the NFL drug program, Williams underwent therapy for the past 5½ months in Boston and benefited from the treatment, Steinberg said. "This is the program working exactly as it should -- treating a player for an underlying life problem in a positive and sophisticated way, and returning him to health," Steinberg said. Steinberg said Williams has been working out and weighs a fit 230 pounds. "The Dolphins, or whatever team, is getting a highly motivated player with a new lease on life," Steinberg said. Perhaps the Dolphins can be persuaded. But in May, when discussing Williams' most recent relapse, Cameron said it's difficult to salvage the careers of troubled players. "The easiest predictor of future behavior is previous behavior," the coach said. Coincidentally, Miami general manager Randy Mueller traded Williams to Miami when both were with the Saints. Since that deal, the Dolphins have endured a five-year playoff drought, the longest in franchise history. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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Isn't that obvious?! Where you're headed that is!!! 
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<sarcasm> You meant the photo of Tressel in your sig, right ??
I could care less if this puke Williams ever plays another down of football. He sets a very poor example for young people. Those are my moral standards talking,...I don't mean to levy them on anyone here on the board,....
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okay, what's the over/under line on how long it takes him to start being a pothead again? (or should I say, until he gets caught again?)
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i've never heard any bad things about Ricky except for the fact that he smokes pot.
Plenty of people smoke pot and do just fine. Now he might not be able to manage it, as my philosophy goes never let that get in the way of doing what you want to do. But there are many other guys who set just as bad examples.
There were few complaints with Reuben Droughns, DUI and domestic abuse. how about Cosey Coleman, beating his wife in front of his daughter outside of their daycare. The list can go on and on.
I have never heard that Ricky is a bad person.
And if we didn't have 3 sufficient running backs I wouldn't mind taking a look at the guy. He'd be cheap, and may be this time would have no problems continuing to play. Saban stood behind Ricky on the last test failure. That said something to me,
so yeah, I hope he does well because there are a lot worse guys in the NFL.
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Williams also had written Goodell a personal letter of appeal
...written on EZ-Wider paper.
I used to smoke grass. I don't see why people become public enemy # 1 because of it.  It's certainly no where near as bad as someone drinking liquor. But...it is what it is and it's a no-no if you wanna make big bucks in the NFL. RW probably realizes that he could use some big bucks before his earning years are over.
I say, good luck to him.
He might be able to be a good player again. And the Phins could sure use a few.
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i've never heard any bad things about Ricky except for the fact that he smokes pot.
Plenty of people smoke pot and do just fine. Now he might not be able to manage it, as my philosophy goes never let that get in the way of doing what you want to do. But there are many other guys who set just as bad examples.
There were few complaints with Reuben Droughns, DUI and domestic abuse. how about Cosey Coleman, beating his wife in front of his daughter outside of their daycare. The list can go on and on.
I have never heard that Ricky is a bad person.
And if we didn't have 3 sufficient running backs I wouldn't mind taking a look at the guy. He'd be cheap, and may be this time would have no problems continuing to play. Saban stood behind Ricky on the last test failure. That said something to me,
so yeah, I hope he does well because there are a lot worse guys in the NFL.
Well, I guess my only retort would be, who are they ???
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I'll never understand the backlash against this guy. Over some pot-----------utterly ridiculous.
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Can't even pick one of you out to reply to: here it is to all: pot is illegal. Regardless of whether you smoke it or not, it is illegal. Regardless of whether it is harmful or not, whether it is "better" than alcohol or not, it is ILLEGAL. Not only in the nfl, but in real life. Illegal. Can any of you understand that? It's not "well, it ain't that bad", or "lots of people do it", it is simply ILLEGAL. Can any of you grasp that idea?
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I used to smoke grass. I don't see why people become public enemy # 1 because of it. It's certainly no where near as bad as someone drinking liquor. But...it is what it is and it's a no-no if you wanna make big bucks in the NFL. RW probably realizes that he could use some big bucks before his earning years are over.
I say, good luck to him.
He might be able to be a good player again. And the Phins could sure use a few.
..that's right it's a no-no in the NFL,....who in their right mind would risk losing millions to smoke a joint??
People refrain from smoking pot for menial jobs,....he deserves everything he WON'T get.
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pot is illegal
Seriously?!?!
No Way.
Nice argument.
Just because its ILLEGAL, doesn't mean its beyond the rigors of reasonable discussion. But if you choose to go on with your wasted diatribe, then go ahead.
At one time Blacks couldn't vote because it was illegal----heavens we should never question the sanctity of this countries laws. 
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Seriously?!?!
No Way.
Nice argument.
Just because its ILLEGAL, doesn't mean its beyond the rigors of reasonable discussion. But if you choose to go on with your wasted diatribe, then go ahead.
At one time Blacks couldn't vote because it was illegal----heavens we should never question the sanctity of this countries laws.
I don't make the laws, I only follow them. And further more, for you to equate pot smoking with blacks not being allowed to vote is flat out insane and ludicrous. If you are juvenile enough to equate pot smoking to blacks not being allowed to vote, then forget it. No one will be able to talk reason to you.
Just cause you're a pothead, a self called drug user, doesn't mean it's right.
Again, I can't get over how you attempt, albeit it feebly, to equate pot smoking with human rights. Pathetic.
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Apparently my point went over your head. My point was that just b/c something is illegal doesn't mean that it should just be accepted. But go ahead and resort to name-calling. Quote:
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Which I believe is against the rules here b/c it in no way contributes to discussion.
Nice.
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He's not equating smoking grass to civil rights, he's pointing out a fallacy in your argument...just saying 'it's illegal' doesn't constitute a point. We all know it's illegal...that's why there's a debate. Tyler's saying that legality doesn't dictate morality.
I can see both sides of the issue, but if someone wants to defend marijuana being illegal, they better have a similar stance on alcohol...
As far as athletes...it's pot. It can't give them an unfair edge over their opponent, so I don't care.
As far as Ricky...what a moron.
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By this time next year, he'll be out of the league.
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Archbold you need to lighten up. What makes you care whether someone smokes or doesn't?
All i'm saying is that there's worse guys that were on our team then him. If you think smoking pot is worse then beating your wife in public in front of your child you need a reality check. I imagine that you have to agree with me there.
Ricky Williams gets a terrible rap, but i'd definitely rather have him on my team than someone like Albert Haynesworth. Because what he did was not ill-intended and didn't hurt anybody.
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My point on him is you're a part of the NFL and you have an image to fulfill.
You are a role model like it or not, make the league look good.
If my employer was willing to give me millions of dollars to go to work for them, I am pretty sure I can do the stand up thing and not let them down. You play for a team in the league, you have an image to uphold.
I don't think I would mess that up over smoking weed.
Would anyone on this board turn down millions to smoke pot?
I didn't think so.
I can 't believe the NFL lets him back in again. My employer would fire me if I tested positive one time. And I make hardly anything, and am still not willing to lose that. Millions? Stupid.
How in the world can you fix something...
If you don't know how it's supposed to work?
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he's pointing out a fallacy in your argument...just saying 'it's illegal' doesn't constitute a point. We all know it's illegal...that's why there's a debate. Tyler's saying that legality doesn't dictate morality.
No fallacy in my point. Pot is illegal. If you, or Tyler, don't like it, don't bring it up to me. Talk to your senator and representative.....have the law changed. Don't try to turn the issue into "arch's morality....."""""""" that's crap. Pot is illegal. When it is legal, I will shut up.
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As far as Ricky...what a moron.
So, as far as athletes, smoking pot is fine, as far as you are concerned, cause it can't give them the upper hand, so to speak. I assume you mean smoking pot won't enhance their performance, and as such, you're fine with it.
Walking into a store and shoplifting will not increase an athletes performance - are you okay with that? Murdering someone will not increase an athletes perfomance, are you okay with that?
Or, do you like to pick and choose which laws are "okay to follow" and which laws are "okay to break"? Sorry phil, you can't have it both ways. If you are okay with ANYONE smoking pot and not having to pay the consequence of breaking a law, then you should be okay with someone shoplifting as well. Laws are laws. You can disagree with the law, but it sure doesn't make you right.
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If I may post a simple reminder for the people who may have forgotten, this is the same Ricky Williams who was so nervous when being interviewed he had to wear his football helmet. He has been diagnosed with depression and social anxiety disorder. He is often described as different and quiet. This guy is not a dangerous individual, he isn't beating women, I have never heard of him being arrested, as best I can tell he is very shy and used to smoke marijuana to help cope with his varying MENTAL ILLNESSES. cut the guy a break.
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So, because he has "mental issues", he's allowed to break the law of this country? Oh, poor Ricky. He could get over those "social anxiety disorders" by working in a factory and never having to deal with publicity again, but he chooses a career in a sport where publicity matters.
Why is it society's fault that he breaks the law? Why isn't it HIS fault he breaks the law?
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arch. You need to sit down and take a good look at yourself. There are a lot of people who strongly disagree with how you present your arguments. If I may cite the most blatant example, you strongly denounce tylers comparison of civil rights laws (blacks voting) and marijuana laws (yet both relate to personal freedom) then you in a later post compare smoking marijuana with murder and shoplifting. (which are highly different crimes). Things are not as black and white as they may appear to you.
Here is a question which can clarify the debate: Is it the NFL's job to enforce United States Federal law?
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Is it the NFL's job to enforce U.S. Federal law? No. It is the NFL's job to enforce the laws they, the nfl, have on the books. If, and when, those nfl laws go against the feds, then yes, the feds step in.
Is it really that freaking hard to see? Pot is illegal. Williams should consider himself lucky he's not in prison. Who in the hell decided that HE can break the laws of the land, AND the nfl, and not have to suffer the consequences? Who makes that determination? Cause there are many laws I'd like to break but don't because it's AGAINST the law.
Damn, is it that hard to see?
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j/cNot that Arch needs any help here, but here are my thoughts to those of you who are minimizing RW's pot smoking: Quote:
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What do you mean by "just fine"? Partaking in an illegal activity subsidized by druglords, dealers and other thugs?
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What, that he was supported by someone who's proven that his credibility isn't worth a sqare of used toilet paper?
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It's certainly no where near as bad as someone drinking liquor.
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uh....yes it does. People are overlooking who is actually harmed in the process of growing, processing, marketing, selling and acquiring the marijuana.... and only addressing the actual effects on the person smoking it. To get marijuana to smoke, it is necessary to be directly or indirectly involved with low life criminals. Belittle it all you want, but it's a fact.
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Everything you described are symptoms of excessive marijuana abuse. You just may be putting the cart before the horse. Those behaviors may be the result of the pot use, not the reason for it.
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How on earth did you come up with that? The NFL has it's own substance abuse policy, RW violated it and suffered the consequences as they were written. He also broke the law and should be penalized accordingly. If you disagree with the law, challenge it and have it changed. There's a process to do that.
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Alright, then the question would be: is the NFLs substance abuse policy justified.
If I may cite history as far as "people being injured to get marijuana" all you need to do is look back to prohibition. Alcohol becomes illegal, instantly we see the rise of street gangs to control the substance. If marijuana were not illegal we would not have these problems. Also, there are plenty of non-violent (dare I say the majority) drug dealers / growers who aren't street thugs, think the alcohol equivalent to moonshiners.
Ricky Williams has not been arrested while possessing marijuana to my knowledge, this is why he has not been arrested... He isn't breaking laws in obvious defiance to the law, its kind of hard to get caught smoking marijuana.
It is possible his social anxiety and depression are "caused" by his marijuana smoking, more likely I would suggest they are personality traits and the marijuana smoking dampers the effects when he is intoxicated and heightens them when he is not intoxicated. Depression and social anxiety can be debilitating, so I don't blame him for making a mistake and going to drugs to deal with these problems...its called "self-medicating" its very common...
If Ricky Williams has been reinstated by the league he must have passed whatever qualifications they require for him to be in the league. It is a moot point to say he is lucky or undeserving, the rules are the rules.
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has he been arrested? i thought he failed some tests. as far as i know, he isn't on probation, or parole. since all you care about is the letter of the law, it does not follow that you believe he should be imprisoned. possession and trafficking are what gets people in the most trouble.
there are out of date and nonsensical laws all over the place. almost everyone breaks the law a little bit, even if they don't know about it. if you have ever jaywalked, california stopped, spit on a sidewalk, etc you could easily have broken the law. somewhere there is a guy like you just waiting to catch somebody pulling tags off of mattresses.
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i didn't see tyler claim to be a pothead anywhere on this thread. maybe you had a conversation with him about drug usage somewhere else? or did you just make that up?
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smoking pot is not considered an athletic performance enhancer. however, a lot of psychedelic drugs can result in absurd leaps of logic such as this one. i do like the subtle link to ray lewis. kudos.
cob, i'm not the best researcher in the world but i have never heard of pot getting prescribed for mental illness. just saying.
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Pot is prescribed for numerous ailments in Cali------and you can actually go to a cannabis club and buy pot. Legally.
And though I occasionally smoke pot----one thing I hate is labels like stoner, or pothead, b/c in a way they inhibit actual discussion. They are demeaning terms that promote a stereotype of recreational marijuana smokers.
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Walking into a store and shoplifting will not increase an athletes performance - are you okay with that? Murdering someone will not increase an athletes perfomance, are you okay with that?
Or, do you like to pick and choose which laws are "okay to follow" and which laws are "okay to break"? Sorry phil, you can't have it both ways. If you are okay with ANYONE smoking pot and not having to pay the consequence of breaking a law, then you should be okay with someone shoplifting as well. Laws are laws. You can disagree with the law, but it sure doesn't make you right.
I like to pick and choose which laws I follow, as we all should. As my law school professor often pointed out, in Nazi Germany, the law was kill the Jews. Does that make it any excuse to follow it?
So you're argument is based on a premise that because something is the law, it is morally ok. Smoking pot and shoplifting are two very different moral issues. As is smoking pot and murdering someone.
We all have a moral code we live by, that one day, may face us with the choice of breaking that code and following the law, or breaking the law and following our moral code. If your moral code is one in which it is always wrong to break the law, I worry for you, because you are letting a government decide for you what is right and wrong.
Ok, lawyer lecture over. To the issue at hand: I seriously doubt that Ricky Williams felt he had to break the law and smoke MJ as a religious or moral decision. Dude likes getting high. Probably helps him with his anxiety disorder. Whatever. He needed to make a choice whether getting high was more important than football and millions of dollars. He made his choice. He may make it again, or maybe this time he'll see more value in a football career, what's left of it.
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If I may cite history as far as "people being injured to get marijuana" all you need to do is look back to prohibition. Alcohol becomes illegal, instantly we see the rise of street gangs to control the substance. If marijuana were not illegal we would not have these problems. Also, there are plenty of non-violent (dare I say the majority) drug dealers / growers who aren't street thugs, think the alcohol equivalent to moonshiners.
Marijuana at this point and time is illegal. RW knowingly used an illegal substance. Because it is illegal, and as we had with prohibition, there are criminals and thugs involved. Last I heard, most of the marijuana smoked in this country comes from Columbia and Mexico. How would you know that most of these drug growers/transporters/dealers are non-violent? It's hard to picture a Pablo Escobar type as an innocent moonshiner.
What I'm saying is that a lot of crimes have to be committed for the pot to get to the hands of the average American user. The guy you get your pot from might be a decent person, but unless it was grown locally, it would be very hard to say that bad people weren't involved somewhere along the line.
For the record, I never stated that RW is undeserving of a fresh start. If he met the requirements of the NFL, all the power to him. And also for the record, I'm all for legalizing marijuana. I don't smoke it anymore, but I also don't feel we need to expend resources or take up prison space for potheads. Legalize it, let the government authorize someone to grow it, then sell it and tax it.
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And though I occasionally smoke pot----one thing I hate is labels like stoner, or pothead, b/c in a way they inhibit actual discussion. They are demeaning terms that promote a stereotype of recreational marijuana smokers.
LMFAO!!! Let me get this right....you partake in an illegal activity, but you don't want the negative stereotype associated with the activity?
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. 
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yea, but prescribed for people suffering from aids, cancer, glaucoma etc. i hadn't heard of it being considered a treatment for mental illness.
anyways hopefully ricky can make a better choice this time around. even if the dolphins don't want him, somebody will pick him up.
the better RB story in the league IMO is the return of preist holmes. good luck to him.
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I like to pick and choose which laws I follow, as we all should. As my law school professor often pointed out, in Nazi Germany, the law was kill the Jews. Does that make it any excuse to follow it?
So you're argument is based on a premise that because something is the law, it is morally ok. Smoking pot and shoplifting are two very different moral issues. As is smoking pot and murdering someone.
As an American citizen, it is your duty to follow the law or use the process to get it changed. If you're not working toward getting it changed, then you should obey it. Breaking the law because you don't like it is a criminal act.
Like I said in my other post, it's not just a matter of smoking pot, it's acquiring it from a system criminal activity. Most potheads I know like to belittle that fact.
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Cause there are many laws I'd like to break but don't because it's AGAINST the law.
What a load of crap!  I guess you never as a youth stayed out after curfew, or you never took a drink of alcohol, or never speeded in a car.
Smoking pot is a comparable offense to the above it is a minor fine and a slap on the hand.
I have never understood the reefer madess attitude of our society, and believe me that someday when this ignorance has passed pot will be very legal.
I'm shocked that the hipocrites in this country have not backed off yet! As an example I would like to know how many of you that are under fifty have honestly never smoked pot?
If you have never done so then let you be first to cast a stone at Ricky. The rest of you shut up! 
Just wait till next season, I have heard that for over 40 years!
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There were few complaints with Reuben Droughns, DUI and domestic abuse. how about Cosey Coleman, beating his wife in front of his daughter outside of their daycare. The list can go on and on.
In Droughns defense, it was nevr reported that he hit her. She supposedly asked for a divorce and he guided her out the door. His DUI was for a .08 and was thrownout of court. People also complained about him.
Coleman was trshed on here for what he did.
Some of us we're very upset that we drafted Wright because of his past.
Now as much as I despise drugs, I'm happy someone is willing to give Ricky a chance. He has some deep underlying problems that very well could be the cause of his problems with drugs. He has spent a lot of time trying to rehabilitate himself and I want to see him succeed.
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Just wait till next season, I have heard that for over 40 years!
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I like to pick and choose which laws I follow, as we all should. As my law school professor often pointed out, in Nazi Germany, the law was kill the Jews. Does that make it any excuse to follow it?
So you're argument is based on a premise that because something is the law, it is morally ok. Smoking pot and shoplifting are two very different moral issues. As is smoking pot and murdering someone.
As an American citizen, it is your duty to follow the law or use the process to get it changed. If you're not working toward getting it changed, then you should obey it. Breaking the law because you don't like it is a criminal act.
Like I said in my other post, it's not just a matter of smoking pot, it's acquiring it from a system criminal activity. Most potheads I know like to belittle that fact.
Actually, it's not your duty to obey the law. In fact, the majority of laws get changed because people break them. That's one of the most efficient ways to get them changed. Take your miranda rights, for example. We didn't get those until Mr. Miranda broke the law and appealed his case to the supreme court. Martin Luther King Jr. was a lawbreaker, and served time, and died with a criminal record. You know who else was a lawbreaker, including comitting treason?
George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, and John Hancock, among others. They broke laws of their country, declared themselves enemies of the state, and led and armed resistance against the government. Some of the bravest, most powerful, most influential, and most Honorable people in history broke the law. Including Jesus Christ. And because they did, humanity progressed.
One day, people may look back on the fight to legalize MJ and cite Ricky Williams as one of the people who pushed that fight into the public consciousness and helped to speed change. Maybe not, but stranger things have happened.
I am a lawyer, I have taken an oath as an officer of the court, and I will be disbarred or disciplined if I break certain laws. However, I know from my study of the law, of the U.S. constitution, and my own experience, that it is a dangerous and narrow-minded view to believe that following the law is your duty, or that you are a bad citizen if you do so. Please understand that I am not belittling the laws of this nation or applauding criminal acts. However, if I may paraphrase MLK, Breaking a law which you know in your heart to be morally unjust, is an act which, in fact, shows the utmost respect for the law.
And finally, I'm not a potsmoker. But I do know many people who are, and people who have farms in this country, and people who grow it themselves. So they're not contributing to this violent criminal network. In fact, the more we look the other way when people in this country grow their own weed, the less dangerous the international sales become. So it would actually IMPROVE our country to break the law. Huh.
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Oh yea Bill Clinton even smoked pot but that was ok because he didn't inhale!  
Here's a good question does the President have to take radom drug test? If he doesn't why should I, hell his job is more important than mine!
Just wait till next season, I have heard that for over 40 years!
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I have never understood the reefer madess attitude of our society, and believe me that someday when this ignorance has passed pot will be very legal.
And if the law is changed to make mariuana legal, be it tomorrow or in 20 years, then I will have no problem with it. Until it is put up for a nationwide vote and the current law is changed, it is illegal.
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I'm shocked that the hipocrites in this country have not backed off yet! As an example I would like to know how many of you that are under fifty have honestly never smoked pot?
I'm 39 and haven't.
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If you have never done so then let you be first to cast a stone at Ricky. The rest of you shut up!
I'm not casting a stone at Ricky. He has done the league mandated "punishment" (for lack of a better word). He was suspended - he did his suspension. He was re-instated, then suspended again. He did his suspension. He has also finished/completed drug education and treatment. He is now re-instated, IF a team will take him.
What I'm saying is "he will fail another test."
I'm not sure of the leaque policy, but you don't get kicked out for 1 offense, do you?
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However, I know from my study of the law, of the U.S. constitution, and my own experience, that it is a dangerous and narrow-minded view to believe that following the law is your duty, or that you are a bad citizen if you do so.
I never said you were a bad citizen if you followed the law. 
Are you saying that an American citizen has no responsibility to obey the laws of his city, state or country? Why even have laws, or lawyers for that matter? Some of your analogies aren't comparing apples to apples. We don't live under a socialist dictatorship or an unscrupulous monarchy. We have a legal process that allows for changing and/or abolishing unjust law.
My argument is that we should utilize a system that is already in place to refine laws....not just break them because they don't suit our needs. The constitution and bill of rights should not be touched.
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