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You are going to love this one from the Official Ukraine Twitter account.



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smfh.

We go from WTF to SavageAF!

You just can’t count on the Germans to do the right thing in these types of situations…

I hate the view.... "talking about 5 million people being displaced".... "I have to cancel my travel plans!!!"

Feel for the people of Ukraine... Praying for their safety.

Based on the previous world wars? LMAO. That's sort of obvious to anyone who knows even the slightest bit of world war history.

Yeah, it was an attempt at dark, coping humor on my part.

Kick Germany out of NATO.

Everybody knows your posting style would never let you post something that divisive, without elaborating and debating both sides with yourself, in the same post.

Extremist.

They are turncoats.

They haven't sided with Putin, they have a lot on the line because they rely heavily on Russia for energy. They will come around I think.

They're either with us or against us. Not sitting on the fence.

Lol, says who? You're off the hook.

You'll see.

Nailed it.

Weird how twitter kicked out Trump but not Putin.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/hacking-collective-anonymous-declare-war-putin-russia-invades-ukraine

Rock on, hackers.

I understand Germany's posture.

I see it this way, delaying a move on SWIFT at least leaves some nugget of bargaining power.

Think about it, if we take Russia to their knees with that move, that is a declaration of war. The problem we face is Russia isn't powerless.

I guess the real question to ask is do we really risk WWIII over Ukraine? Putin knows that is the real question we need to answer. Is having a nuclear warhead wipe out NYC as an example worth a free Ukraine?

That is the real question we need to answer. Anyone willing to answer that? My answer is no.

Un frickin' believable.

they've already declared war by invading ukraine. Russia clearly doesn't care about the sanctions already placed on them. Putin is all in with trying to take over Ukraine.

but i get it. all putin has to do is threaten a nuclear strike, and people go "oh well i guess we should just let putin have whatever he wants then!!"

and shout out to all the dudes out there who are about to marry their version of Svetlana. godspeed, and good luck to your liver. that Vodka hits different.

The US Department of Defense is tracking the reported incursion of troops from Belarus into Ukraine, a US defense official said Thursday.

It was not clear if the troops were only Russian or also Belarusian, the source said.

Some context: Through a livestream video, CNN witnessed troops atop a column of military vehicles entering Ukraine from a border crossing with Belarus at about 6:48 a.m. local time Thursday.

The livestream video was taken at the Senkivka, Ukraine, crossing with Veselovka, Belarus.

In recent weeks, Russia has amassed a significant number of troops, vehicles and tanks in Belarus near the border with Ukraine. During that time, the two countries have held joint military exercises across the countries, and near the Belarus-Ukrainian border.

Early Thursday, the Ukrainian state border service said the country was attacked through multiple borders, including Belarus.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-23-22/h_a0cecda679142b1a6aec6325ab71f4a1

can we go ahead and turn Belarus into a state?

It's not a matter of "oh well". I get that he has declared war, at least on Ukraine. Possibly on more. The problem is Europe has relied on Russia for too much. Putin knows this and has this calculated in his actions in Ukraine.

You still didn't answer the question. Anyway, I suppose there is no good answer. I suppose our best hope is he stops there, and faces internal pressure from the citizens of Russia. Maybe they are getting a little tired of a strong armed ruler.

your question doesn't need to be answered because the premise from which you framed it isn't accurate.

the dude is already invading ukraine. Kyiv is already under attack. Putin clearly doesn't care about sanctions and SWIFT. he's calculated that into his plans already. again, he's banking on NATO doing nothing but talking tough, allowing him to take over Ukraine, which gives him even more power in the Black Sea, which allows him to have control over shipping routes that flow in and out of there. now he can potentially go from JUST being a giant gas station to controlling goods that flow to/from EE countries from other places, which allows him to invade other EE countries more effectively.

if he's allowed to take Ukraine, along with his little sidekick Belarus, those sanctions mean nothing now, because he has ALL the leverage to make the EU lift those sanctions anyway. that's what you're not understanding here: if the sanctions or SWIFT ban actually mattered, we wouldnt be having this conversation. it only matters if he loses his military advancement into Ukraine. thats when the sanctions will have its maximum effect. none of that matters when the military is ALREADY invading.

the sanctions dont mean a damn thing if he gets parts of his Iron Curtain back.

guys, if you think this dude plans on stopping at ukraine, you are fooling yourselves.

I agree that Putin won't stop at Ukraine - and if the world doesn't step in to smack this bully down, the world simply gets more dangerous.

IMO, Trump is only relevant because the media makes him so. If they would ignore him, his only audience would be his twitter followers, and even though some think he has the large following, I doubt it's nearly as large as they envision. He could quickly become irrelevant like a Kardashian, if they would quit giving him airtime.

Can't imagine it's too difficult to be successful bombing innocent people from the air. Ukraine probably only has a couple hundred aircraft to put up against them.

Disagree - Trump still controls the GOP. Nearly 75% of he GOP still insist Biden didn't win the last election. That's all Trump. Elise Stefanik is the 3rd ranking Republican in the House and she just made a retarded statement - she is in that position and made those comments because she is a Trump sycophant. Cheney and others labeled as RINO's when all she has done is tell the truth - because of Trump. . . . I get not wanting to have a discussion on Trump in a thread about Ukraine - but Trump placed himself in the conversation because instead of American's pulling together against the enemy - we have Trump trying his best to undermine our President.

It's true that his shtick is only as effective as the attention you give it, so from that perspective you're 100% correct. However, my argument would be to mention that he's not referred to as "ex-President" or "former President". His title is officially 'President', and he's always referred to as such. So along those lines, his words will always carry extra weight.

j/c…

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uhhh...

I assumed that was a stationary parked car. Warning please, I don't need to see that.

j/c:

Lolz.

nah people need to see that. im trying to figure out if that was a russian or ukrainian tank. either way, somebody either can't drive a tank or is completely losing their minds.

people need to see what warzones look like. thats why im thankful for global communication and social media and all that. nobody gets to claim ignorance. nobody gets to pretend like things are over exaggerated.

this is aspects of what war looks like.

i want to apologize in advance because as a vet, we tend use dark humor when discussing these things because unfortunately thats how we had to cope during our own experiences. but im still gonna balance that out with real videos/photos.

people need to understand that complacency, disregard of threats, and ignoring warning signs can have whats happening in ukraine on our own doorsteps at any moment. our streets, or our neighbors/allies streets, can look like this overnight.

people live life like "this will never happen to us". nah, it can happen.

Hmmm.....

i know memphis got me blocked for whatever ungodly reason, but if he reads this i hope he understand that i agree with him on this aspect.

right now twitter and FB are showing a real double standard on what they allow and dont allow. Obviously they are private companies so they have that right, but it has to be acknowledged that not only is it harmful to people defending their homeland, but its creating unproductive discussions around the world.

That aircraft IS Ukrainian. He is downing Russian aircraft, with a rumored 6 already as of yesterday.

I can read and appreciate the horror. I do not need to witness it. I don't watch these videos of people being gunned down in the US, or other tragic violent, catastrophic "train wrecks" - I don't need to see that in order to appreciate it at a deep level.