That kinda reminds me of sailing through the Suez and how you can still see all of the remnants of the 7 Day War. The massive dunes, the paths cut through them with water, the burned out hulks of tanks everywhere. It felt like sailing through a graveyard.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
The difference is our own WH would be giving Putin the thumbs up.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
The difference is our own WH would be giving Putin the thumbs up.
No kidding.
Seriously - the USA is not going to act unilaterally and use force to respond to Russia's aggression .... and that is true no matter who is in the WH. Before the attack or after.
Now - is it more or less likely that the USA rallies the allies in Europe with the orange clown in the WH or someone (anybody) else?
I guess I shouldn't be surprised - but thinking this is "Biden = weak and that's why this happened" is moronic in the extreme.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
LOL. If you tink this would be any different with anyone else in the WH you are flat wrong. But sure - try to make out this is a Biden thing.
Actually, it's a completely reasonable takeaway, just as it could very well be entirely different if there was a different Chancellor in Germany right now. Don't kid yourself... Putin knows his adversaries.
And he knows who his friends are. If you have an American president who is helping you divide America, you have a willing partner. I'm of course sure some people would like to paint the picture that with all of the praise of Putin and taking his word over our own intelligence community, would love to paint some false picture Trump would do better.
Let's not forget how Trump withheld military aid from Ukraine. Yeah, that guy would have been really helpful.
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Pretend this is written in crayola and try to grasp it… Biden DID NOT CAUSE PUTIN TO ATTACK. Putin is doing Putin, and nobody saw this coming a few months ago. All this anti Biden BS is hurting our stance right now, maybe it can wait until midterms and we could try to be patriotic for 5 minutes now.
I think Biden and his sanctions are weak af, but I'm not going to bash the man dealing with this situation while IT'S ONGOING.
A lot of people saw this coming. Maybe not known to the day, but our interventionist policies in Ukraine have been a matter of criticism for a long time. We knew that messing around near Russia's border would increases tension and increase the likelihood of conflict. Isn't this obvious? or am I crazy? If someone were disrupting the stability of Mexico and making the situation along our border more dangerous, would we not eventually intervene militarily? Did we not do the same thing in Cuba?
Biden alone did not cause this, but he is part of a long line of interventionists that have controlled our foreign diplomacy for the past 40 years.
By the way, Putin is not a demon and the U.S. is not composed entirely of angels. The world is not so black and white. This war was not started because Putin woke up on the wrong side of the bed one morning. This is the result of a lot of missteps and corruption that brought things to this point.
Here is a video from 6 years ago that outlines exactly how badly we messed up in Ukraine nearly a decade ago and laid the foundations for the mess that has come out of it.
If the USA wanted to be involved they could have sent equal matching troops over into Ukraine (with Ukraine's approval) in late 2021 until Putin either invaded and started WW3 or moved his troops back.
* personally, I'm glad we are not in this. I don't think it would end well for us. Trying to fight Russia, Iran, China, and North Korea is too much.
There are a few things that I find troubling as of now.
First, it's the notion that somehow America should be taking actions unilaterally. We are a member of a 30 nation organization, NATO. Are we by far the strongest nation and the only real superpower in NATO? Yes we are. But the problem is if we show huge divisions in NATO's plan of action and division between those 30 nations, it would be an obvious signal to every foreign power that are NATO's adversaries we are divided and it would be problematic for this alliance to work as a force together. If anything would show weakness, that would be it. The very idea of NATO is that there are strength in numbers.
Next would be that full blown sanctions were not implemented. That actually goes right back to NATO working as a unit and without the nations who wish to block removing Russia from SWIFT it poses a huge problem. I think Peen has pointed out exactly why this is a roadblock. Germany is not the only member of NATO that relies heavily on Russian oil and natural gas. While I vehemently disagree with their stand, I understand it. For those who think increased drilling in America would have any real impact in Europe's need for Russian oil, you're only fooling yourselves. It would be no more than a drop in the bucket at addressing it. The only solution is to move away from oil as our main fuel source and people keep fighting that tooth and nail.
As much as I agree with the idea of enforcing the Marshall Act to build up military production, I think we must consider the corner we have painted ourselves into. We have been living in a world where big corporations have either bought up or ran their smaller competition out of business. There are very few options when it comes to a huge build up of weaponry in a short period of time. Can it be done? Possibly. What one would have to ask themselves is to what extent? How many producers of weapons have the capability of building armed drones and unmanned aircraft? What about spy planes and stealth technology? Sure, it would not be hard to increase production of hand help weapons and things like uniforms along with low tech items. Yet when you shift your focus to producing weapons of war on a high tech basis, you're very limited in fast increased production. But the division we currently face in this country would make it a formidable feat which would gather enormous blow back no matter who was in power politically. It seems the struggle for power in our nation as it stands is more important than Patriotic duty by far.
Once again if you look at strength in numbers and could get the majority of our NATO allies to also enlist policies like the Marshall Plan to increase production it could be successful. But we now live in an era where Rosie the Riveter and low tech weapons aren't going to give us some huge advantage in a technological time of war. As I was told yesterday, that's too simplistic.
The next thing is troop strength. Let's be honest here, in numbers alone with an all volunteer military there's no way we have the numbers to lead a WW. As we saw in the middle east, no matter how hard and dedicated our service men and women were, we were engaged in a war on multiple fronts at the same time. Just like in WW2. Imagine trying to do that on a larger scale against more sophisticated military countries. There's no way we could go into something like that without instituting the draft.
But the thing that probably troubles me the most is what I see as inaction of NATO to build up the military presence in actual NATO nations that border Ukraine. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland are especially vulnerable to Russia with it's invasion of Ukraine. If the assertion is as NATO members including Biden have said, that we will defend every inch of NATO, we should be in the process of building up weaponry and troop strength along these borders. NATO has increased its presence in the region by adding battlegroups after the Russian takeover of Crimea. But it's obvious to me anyway that we need to strengthen these borders between Russian/Ukraine and our NATO allies if we actually wish to create a strong deterrent to Russia with which to prevent them from spreading their aggression beyond Ukraine's border.
What I believe is the biggest obstacle I see Putin will face as it pertains strictly to Ukraine is what we've seen a hint of so far. Many Russians have direct ties to people in the Ukraine. In many cases relatives. Hopefully his own people with what I also hope will be a strong resistance from the Ukrainian people may be his biggest obstacle thus far.
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So to possibly sum up - this goes back to 2008 and the proposal for Ukraine to join Nato? And this is an issue for US Politics and we've failed to address it for decades.
So you agree blaming Biden is silly.
** Yes - I need and will go and watch this as it is without doubt much more detailed and thorough than this. But still.... Blaming Biden because he is part of a systematic US political issue over decades seems foolish.
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The more things change the more they stay the same.
EXCLUSIVE NewsUS News GALACTIC BATTLE Warning US could be ‘hit with most debilitating strike EVER’ in space war with Russia after chilling ISS threat Chris Bradford 12:10 ET, Feb 25 2022Updated: 12:11 ET, Feb 25 2022 THE US could be hit with the most debilitating and destructive strike ever in a potential space war with Russia, an expert warns.
Relations between Moscow and Washington have plunged to new lows amid the Ukrainian crisis, and Russia’s space agency warned that US sanctions could “destroy” cooperation on the International Space Station.
Space expert Brandon J Weichert warned that the US could be hit by a debilitating attack in a potential galactical war with Russia
Moscow claimed Washington needs its cooperation to prevent the ISS from falling on the US or Europe.
Geopolitical and space expert Brandon J Weichert told The Sun that Moscow has a decade to a 12-year advantage on the US in the galaxies.
He said US defenses are in “no way fit” to deal with the challenges posed by Russia.
Weichert warned: “We are going to get hit very hard soon in space. It is going to be the most debilitating strike on America, possibly ever.
“And we may not recover from it in a timely fashion. This could be how we lose our first war on Earth is losing the war in space.”
Weichert slammed the "arrogant" DC political class, claiming they didn’t foresee any rival challenging Washington’s dominance in the post-Cold-War world.
He said: “They thought there would never be a need for any kind of preventative or security measure because we thought we would always be dominant, and we thought no one would be crazy enough to challenge us.
“Well here we are 30 years later, and you have Russia, China, North Korea, and even Iran showing us that it was the wrong assumption.”
The expert feared that the US has a 60 percent chance of being pushed out of space by its rivals completely.
President Biden unleashed a package of sanctions against Moscow on Thursday after Putin’s forces rolled into Ukraine.
And, an additional 7,000 troops will be sent to Eastern Europe to bolster Nato’s defenses.
Russia’s invasion of the besieged nation saw Europe plunged into its biggest crisis since World War II.
Experts claim the world has not seen a crisis since the Cuban Missile Crisis in the 1960s.
The flashpoint was the closest point the world came to a full-blown nuclear war.
US intelligence feared that Kyiv could fall within 96 hours and US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said it’s a “possibility” that Putin could move beyond the borders of Ukraine.
The Russian strongman may feel emboldened and seek to move on to other nations if successful.
Troops have reportedly already been spotted in the Belarussian city of Brest – 10 miles east of the Polish border.
Biden told reporters Thursday: “He has much larger ambitions. He wants to, in fact, re-establish the former Soviet Union. That’s what this is all about.”
Weichert said: “If Putin suspects the West will prop up a formidable anti-Russian resistance in a post-invasion Ukraine, he will risk not only nuclear war but also will threaten to attack US assets in space and the ISS.
“Putin fully understands the concept of asymmetrical warfare.”
He speculated that Moscow will ramp up its threats in cyberspace and nuclear warfare.
PUTIN'S THREATS In December, Weichert warned that Moscow is plotting to launch a Pearl Harbor attack on the US in the cosmos.
The Pearl Harbor attack of December 1941 left America reeling as Japanese forces bombed the US naval port.
In his book, Winning Space: How America Remains a Superpower, Weichert says that Russian co-orbital satellites, known as space stalkers, have been tailgating US satellites for years.
He predicts that the stalkers will eventually hit the satellites, sending them crashing into the ground.
Weichert believes Russia is preparing to launch a "devastating" attack on American satellites at the time of its own choice.
He warned that before launching an attack on Washington’s satellites, Moscow would "engage in a series of escalations” with neighboring nations.
Russia conducted an anti-satellite weapon test (ASAT) in November where it destroyed one of its own satellites that had been in orbit since 1982.
Blinken branded the test "dangerous and irresponsible" as it created a field of 1,500 pieces of debris, forcing the ISS crew to take shelter.
State Department spokesperson Ned Price said the test marked an increase in the risk to astronauts and cosmonauts on the ISS.
The russia invasion into Ukraine has many European countries that are not in NATO rethinking their decision. Finland is one of them-and are thinking about joining.
russia threatened Finland today with military and political consequences if they even attempt to join
With all the talk about President Trump and collusion with Russia, it seems this would have happened under his watch. No?
To Oobs point, President Obama sent Ukraine blankets.
All that aside, I am not pointing fingers at President Biden. Right now I am behind him.
I think it best to stick in the moment. Right?
Not necessarily. Trump wanted to be re-elected. Both he and Putin know he would not have been after that. Doing this to make the only party still trying to look bad, that's a win for Putin. Everything Fox, and Trumpians are saying to deride Biden right now, while heaping praise on Putin; well that's all aid and comfort for the enemy. So please think before speaking, even if you hate Biden.
NATO activates response force for first time in history by: Ellen Mitchell, The Hill via Nexstar Media Wire
Posted: Feb 25, 2022 / 03:48 PM EST
Updated: Feb 25, 2022 / 03:48 PM EST
SHARE (The Hill) – NATO, for the first time in its history, is activating its NATO Response Force (NRF) in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
“We have activated NATO’s defense plans to prepare ourselves to respond to a range of contingencies and secure Alliance territory, including by drawing on our response forces,” NATO heads of state and government said in a joint statement released Friday after the alliance held a virtual summit.
“We are now making significant additional defensive deployments of forces to the eastern part of the Alliance. We will make all deployments necessary to ensure strong and credible deterrence and defense across the Alliance, now and in the future.”
The leaders stressed the moves “are and remain preventive, proportionate and non-escalatory.”
The extraordinary move marks the first time NATO has activated the NRF, a multinational force comprised of around 40,000 land, air, maritime and special operations personnel the alliance can deploy on short notice as needed. All 30 members of NATO must agree to activate the force, which they did on Thursday.
The Pentagon in January put 8,500 U.S. troops on heightened alert for such a mission, and with the NRF now activated, those troops could soon be ordered to Europe to help bolster NATO countries near Ukraine. President Biden has stressed, however, that they will not go to Ukraine as it is not a member of the alliance.
Supreme Allied Commander of NATO Gen. Tod Wolters, the head of the NRF, called the force’s activation a “historic moment” according to a statement.
“They represent a flexible, combat credible force that can be employed in multiple ways and we are utilizing fully their inherent agility,” Wolters said. “These deterrence measures are prudent and enhance our speed, responsiveness and capability to shield and protect the one billion citizens we swore to protect.”
The force is still on standby and has not yet been deployed.
In addition, NATO has “deployed defensive land and air forces in the eastern part of the Alliance, and maritime assets across the NATO area,” according to its statement.
The alliance also reaffirmed its “unwavering support for the independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity” of Ukraine, and pledged continued “political and practice support” to its government.
Speaking to reporters after the summit, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said the U.S., Canada and European allies have deployed “thousands of more troops to the eastern part of the alliance,” with more than 100 jets and 120 ships operating on high alert in more than 30 locations.
Stoltenberg also again called on Russia to stop its attack on Ukraine.
“We call on Russia to stop this senseless war, immediately cease its assaults, withdraw all of its forces from Ukraine and turn back to the path of dialogue and turn away from aggression,” he said.
He warned that the alliance is facing a new normal in European security, and that “the world will hold Russia and Belarus accountable for their actions — Russia as the aggressor, Belarus as the enabler.”
The United States has already deployed or repositioned roughly 15,000 American troops to locations in Germany, Romania and Poland. Russia Russian President Vladimir Putin early on Thursday launched a military operation into Ukraine. Hundreds of Ukrainian citizens have since been killed or wounded.
If they are going to go, they should go big as hell. Putin would think twice with 3-5 hundred thousand troops on the borders positioned like they are ready to go in. I don't want war, but the ONLY thing he will feel is total defeat.
I have to admit, Zelenskyy, has stones the size of boulders. Pics of him in the streets, staying to fight, and the way Ukrainians are stepping up to fight with almost zero hope… wow, just wow. I know we have guns out the ass, but all our gravy militias would be running for the hills. Imagine the January 6th rioters doing something like this… LMAO. We're so screwed.
I have to admit, Zelenskyy, has stones the size of boulders. Pics of him in the streets, staying to fight, and the way Ukrainians are stepping up to fight with almost zero hope… wow, just wow. I know we have guns out the ass, but all our gravy militias would be running for the hills. Imagine the January 6th rioters doing something like this… LMAO. We're so screwed.
I wouldn't bet on that.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Of course not. Have you even ever been in a fight, any kind of grown up fight? I've been in enough to be able to see it in the eyes of most men. Most have no fight in them. And of course this is just my opinion.
Antifa is mostly kids fighting for what they think is right. Bernie's bunch? That's a stupid reference that could mean millions of supporters, or just AOC and the gang. I see, you just felt the need to defend the rep of the insurrectionists. Like I didn't expect some yahoo to do that.
Of course not. Have you even ever been in a fight, any kind of grown up fight? I've been in enough to be able to see it in the eyes of most men. Most have no fight in them. And of course this is just my opinion.
You are talking to the wrong guy.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Do elaborate. I'm not picking on or lashing out at you, just curious as to what you have to say. I honestly feel that most men in this country are soft as babies bottom.
NATO members need to rethink their terms of engagement to better address situations such as Russia's unprovoked attack on Ukraine.
In addition to economic sanctions the use of "direct military action by NATO" must be an option in situations such as this..the unprovoked attack of a sovereign nation. The idea that economic sanctions are going to force an aggressor such as Russia to rethink their choice to attack weaker countries that are not capable of defending themselves...THAT TYPE OF THINKING..based around the thought that ECONOMIC SANCTIONS MATTER...IS "OUTDATED".
NATO's most urgent and pressing problem is the lack of a response (in kind) as it relates to "A TIMELY AND IMMEDIATE MILITARY RESPONSE", that is designed to " QUICKLY STOP/HALT "the unlawful aggression of another country"...
Again, NATO needs to update their "RULES OF ENGAGEMENT"...IMO.
Do elaborate. I'm not picking on or lashing out at you, just curious as to what you have to say. I honestly feel that most men in this country are soft as babies bottom.
If you are talking about libtards then yes. They need to be coddled and depend on participation awards and handouts. They are anti-gun and would curl up in the fetal position if attacked.
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