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The Republicans message is a life hands off, free from the coercion of a bully government.

If Trump was President.

Russia would not have invaded Ukraine. The World feared Trump and the US. They see a weak feeble President now and are acting boldly because of it.

If Trump was President gas prices would be well under $2.00 because he made the Country energy independent. Pipelines open, Fracking was working. Creating jobs and supping energy and fuels.

If Trump was President the Southern Border would be secure again. He worked with Mexico and secured the border. This President fly legals all over the country in the middle of the night.

If Trump was President we would have no supply chain issues. He would open ports and commerce.

If Trump was President your grocery bill would not be getting more expensive week after week. Liberal policies led to inflation. Ask Jimmy Carter and now Biden.

If Trump were President well I am starting to get depressed to see how far we have fallen in just over a year. Don't blame me I voted for Trump!!!

See what I’m talking about, Swish?

yea, you we're right.

I sure wish I wasn’t.

But the reality is Republicans in power expand the government just as much as the Democrats ... From Reagan on down. But facts don't typically worry some - just look at the absolute total nonsense Day of the Dawg just posted.

Wow bro, you're deranged.

Facts matter, so do reality. I am sorry that those on the left do not deal in reality. Two years ago we paid just over $1 a gallon for gas now well over $3 a gallon. Everything I wrote is fact. It is a sad reality what this President has failed to deliver and the Country/World is paying the price.

We do use hypotheticals all the time. I'm not saying he needs to delete the thread or anything (if I even had that sort of say).

But Trump ISN'T prez, he didn't steal the election (despite his best efforts). Yes, he had a ton of people vote for him, but he also galvanized the other side to have even more vote for Biden (who pretty much nobody even likes all that much). IMO, any constructive conversation was already settled by Trump saying he believed Putin over his own intelligence group. Trump defended Putin from his own personnel. So we already basically know the gist of what would happen if Trump were running the show right now.

And let's get real honest for a second... dude throws the topic out there, and then responds to himself by saying anyone who's silent or disagrees with him is somehow not supporting democracy or Ukraine.

Yeah... that's not going to get anything out of me other than snark and throwing your own poo back in your face.

Yes he is. Much of those claims are just nonsense and hypothetical - the door to which was opened by this thread. One reason I am not in favor of the concept of the thread. However - there is one provable falcy.


Trump did nothing to slow the illegal entry from the southern border - he only reduced the legal entry numbers.

https://www.cato.org/blog/president...on-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...-actually-accomplish-much-on-immigration

Facts matter. But maybe not to the emotional, knee jerk, Russian Loving Trump faithful.

The world feared Trump because he was an ego-tripping lunatic. Dude would do anything for himself and doesn't care about anyone. The only person who DIDN'T fear Trump was Putin. Trump was Putin's lap dog.


In what alternate reality did either of these things happen?

Literally not one thing you said was a concrete fact u til you said “I voted for Trump” at the end of your post. I suppose you could make the argument for fracking and inflation, but count the number of “would” you used in your post.

“Would” literally implies the absence of fact.

This goes to the heart of the recent LBC video Swish just posted. You are trying to have a rational conversation with someone that spammed the board with a list of simple lies. It's insane. Pick whichever one you want - "No supply chain issues" ... LMFAO. Insanity. Or Trollism. Take your pick.

If Oprah Winfrey was President, Putin would not have attacked Ukraine. Gas would be 50 cents a gallon for premium. There would be no illegal immigration, inflation would disappear, I would win the Mega Million lottery valued at $240 million, and I would be dating a 28 yo Brazilian super model


Vote Oprah 2024!

And he would get a car and she would get a car and you would get car! Everyone would get a car!

Yeah, the "I voted for Trump" ended this thread for me. Insurrectionists and those still supporting Trump should have ZERO voice going forward.

Gas prices just over $1 dollar is a fact. Now over $3 is a fact.

Inflation is a fact.

Biden has failed as a President. He has failed the American people. He is failing the World.

He is a weak Leader and our Enemies see this. That is also a fact.

Not quite. It sounds like you're listening to Faux News rather than stating facts.

Fact check: Gas prices when Trump left office were much higher than he now claims

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/24/politics/fact-check-trump-gas-prices/index.html


There was not a single fact stated in this quote. While trump kissed and is still kissing the ass of Putin, Biden is working with NATO to supply Ukraine with weaponry.

What do I care about California gas prices? I was paying $1.25 to $1.45 most of Trump's term. Gas was $3.29 a gallon yesterday where I got gas.

I’m glad we can pívot to talking about facts.

Here are also some facts:

1. Trump publicly sided with Putin over his own intelligence agencies.

2. Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine - in the midst of its fighting against Russian backed separatists - for a favor to investigate his political rival.

3. Trump praised Putin on two separate occasions as the invasion was about to begin or had just begun, and correlated it to a rigged election.

Now, here’s an actual question, because I don’t know the answer: has Trump ever critiqued Putin or said something directly contrary to what Putin has said? I’m not aware of any times off the top of my head.

Now do with that what you will.

Can you explain how gas prices are directly connected to who the president is? Because I sounded a lot like you when gas prices skyrocketed when W was president. The difference is I found out I was wrong.

You could pretty much say the same thing for the talk show portions of CNN and MSNBC as well. The same goes for all the other right wing and left wing opinion based shows. None of them are news.

I'm pretty sure that if Trump was president, Putin would NOT have invaded Ukraine. My reason is, if you have a lap dog like Trump who wants to wipe out NATO or at least wants the USA to leave NATO, why would you mess with it.

If American leaves NATO, NATO becomes an entity with no punch.. Putin wouldn't invade anyone that he know would provoke a response from NATO which in turn make it so that pressure of the US remaining in NATO would be huge..

This was the bulk of your post and exactly what I was responding to. I agree with you about Tucker and some of the awful things some Republicans are saying. That's not an issue with me. However, the quote above applies across the board.

The real question is...

WHAT IF...Trump is president again?

Putin would get her pregnant,spend all her money, steal her car and still invade the Ukraine.

Trump allowed him to poke very orifice in his body. So it wasn't like Trump shouldn't have gotten pregnant. It's that he lacked the equipment for the job.

Are you talking about Oprah or my Brazilian super model girlfriend?

Not true. If Trump was Presiden t Putin would not be pulling this crap. For some reason every few years America keeps running out weaklings like Biden, Obama, Jimmy Carter.

Do you think Putin is worried about about a doddering old man who can't even focus long enough to read what somebody wrote for him on a telepromter. He sees how Biden handled Afganistan and the American way of life.

I filled my truck up yesterday. It took over $80 dollars. I filled my wife's suv up today. $65 dollars. My wife said she doesn't like paying $3.59 for gas. I said nobody does except Democrats.

Trump was a jerk and hope he doesn't run again but lets be honest I'll vote for him again before I'll vote for any of the candyasses you guys run.

1. Who cares! Trump was not liked by the swamp and many in very important positions lied time and time again about everything they could. Trump was an outsider to Washington and worked for the people and not the swamp.

2. He with held but did not stop the aid. As President he had the right to with hold. There was corruption involved between Hunter Biden the previous administration.

3. I would have done the same thing if I was in charge of Russia. The Leader of the Free World is weak and not cognitive. Matter of fact if I was in charge of China I would invade Taiwan while the Leader of the Free World is asleep hiding in his basement. That does not mean I am rooting for Russia or China it just means that the opportunity presented itself and they would be foolish to not pounce now. Now I hope Ukraine wins this war and hope China does not invade Taiwan but I am not holding my breathe.

Now he has said that Putin was a better leader than Obama and I agree. Obama went around the world apologizing for our Countries actions to other Countries even our enemies. He was played like a fool by Iran and so is Biden. That is not stating the Putin is right just he is a better Leader.

We know you don't care about anything Trump has done or said comrade.

You just keep spouting your opinions trying to claim they are facts in opposition of those who have presented facts to you.

Why should Putin have done anything when Trump was president? Putin actually said he wanted Trump to be president. Trump plainly supported Putin over our own intelligence services. Trump openly attacked and undermined NATO. Hell, Trump was doing Putin's job for him.

We know, you don't care.

That says it all. Good to know you regard the intelligence community as part of the swamp. Might as well include all of DoD too.

Nice deflection on Point 2.

You often want to throw around evil and use pejoratives like “Demoncrats.” Your post, however, especially Point #3 represents so much of what has been the result of vile brainwashing and cognitive dissonance that I’m actually glad you posted it.

It’s all even more out in the open now.

The issue is a weak President is the Leader of the Free World. Putin did not invade under Trump's watch. Why is that?

Is that the same intelligence community that assured us of the accuracy of the Steele Dossier and of Trump colluding with the Russians?

Hmmmm....

Because Putin needed the EU and NATO destabilized, first. and Trump gave him that window.

Good chance that window was closing, too. Gotta strike while the iron is hot…