DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Worthless American Congress refuses to codify Roe v. Wade.

Of course, they waited until we were all distracted to do this.

You expected that?

There are many states who are against abortion. Why would you think it would pass?

Good! Murder is murder. Hopefully, most States outlaw Abortion when the Supreme Court rules. Terrible, hateful law.

You will just be having women who have the means going to states that don't outlaw abortion and greatly increase the welfare rolls of the states who do. Then you'll get your wish.

Well see. The same Democratic run states that have tent cities, human feces in the streets, and crime running rampant because their policies work so great. Yea this will work too, right?

I don't expect anything when the GQP is involved. I just think they are missing the opportunity to put this to bed. It's been legal for 50 years, debate is over IMO.

But the GQP will never accept that. Dems should put that front and center for the women voters this year. I would. And I for one, don't give a damn what red states want.

Traitorous insurrectionists shouldn't have a seat at the table. No more than Putin should.

They don't give a damn about the women or babies, as long as they get to say what they can and can't do with their bodies. Screw the kids once they are born. iT hAs To Be BoRn Or It'S mUrd3r...

absurd.

It doesnt matter when they do it, just as long as they do it.

No to abortion, and you are on your own once your are born.

Suck it up buttercup. You have your “freedom”

There are a lot of things you can control. One of the things that you can’t is the circumstances of your birth.

Let’s just say I know.

But isn't that what you do? Even in states with Republican governors and Republican controlled state senates, you'll blame Democratic mayors rather than how states are funded. Do you think Houston and Dallas don't have homeless problems? Tennessee and Florida cities? All states ran by Republicans. Oh that's right, it's all about mayors then.

Yes, it is the mayors. Liberals have destroyed areas of the Country and that is why many many people are moving out of those areas. The problem is when those people do not realize their own voting patterns set in motion the destruction and continue to vote like that in their new homes.

Please use the reply button. I don't want to read your garbage posts.

Then how do you explain the fact that blacks get longer prison sentences than whites for the same crimes? Are you suggesting most blacks are being tried in the suburbs and rural areas? Come on now, try and stay focused.

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*walks across your screen from left to right carrying a Stop Abortion sign*

Walks across your screen with a sign reminding you it’s NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO IN THEIR PRIVATE LIVES.
Go adopt… or stay out of other people’s lives.

I’ll never understand the desire of some to wish unwanted babies into this world.

Walks across the screen with a concealed handgun w/ no permit or training.


That "none of your damn business" argument is becoming (has become) a very slippery slope.

I would say endangering the life of everyone around them because they're carrying a weapon they have not been trained to handle is everyone's business.

Yes, that would be part of the point I was trying to make.

If a man murdered his wife, would you tell people to stay out of his private life?

The none of your business argument just isn't very effective.

The debate boils down to when you think "life" begins. There's no clear cut answer. Throw in the quandary of something immeasurable like the soul. If you believe the soul is there at conception, any abortion would be murder. When you follow a belief system which commands "Thou shalt not kill" and relies on faith in the unseen, abortion can be hard to rationalize.

They don't wish unwanted babies into the world. They wish unwanted pregnancies not to happen in the first place.

The availability and promotion of abortions encourages unwanted pregnancies.

I'm not hard set against abortion, but the attitude that abortion isn't a big deal rather sickens me.

I certainly do not disagree with the bulk of your post. Seeing things from both perspectives is something I too have done. It's an issue I'm very torn on from a personal standpoint. I'm against abortion as far as my personal belief system is concerned. And as you have pointed out much of that is due to my religious beliefs. As it pertains to society as a whole however I do not feel it's right for me to try and force my deeply held religious and personal convictions upon the rest of society. But much as yourself I understand why others view this much differently than myself.

As it pertains to the part of your post I quoted. While it may be correct that " they don't wish unwanted babies into the world " it is factual that this is a direct consequence of what they do want.

It would seem to me that the people so devoutly concerned with abortion would be showing their concern by stepping up to the plate and adopting these children, addressing the needs of these children, providing social services and resources to insure they are properly educated and have easy, affordable access to higher education. We have a totally broken foster care system that they should be actively seeking to address.

It would go a very long way to show that they're actually pro life and not just pro birth. I have not seen such concentrated efforts to insure these children born unwanted and in poverty are actually being strongly considered as they grow into adults by what they call the pro life movement. If I actually saw they were just as concerned with the life of these children as they were with the birth of them, my position on abortion may change.

Sadly, adoption and raising children are expensive. And our economy(and many other systems including but not limited to those you mentioned) is a mess. Most people can't afford it even if they wanted to.

Promoting not getting pregnant in the first place would avoid these realities becoming factors. (Obviously, there would still be situations where it would happen but to me it's somewhat a question of scale. According to the CDC, there were almost 630k abortions in the US in 2019 link) Knowing your country condones the murder (if that's how your belief system defines it) of over half a million people (again, belief system) every year is pretty messed up. Additionally, for most religious leaning anti-abortionists the avoiding pregnancy approach would probably result in less premarital sex, which many also see as a sin.

I think the pro-choice side focuses too much on the potential child side and not enough on the mother's wellbeing side. Yes, having sex is a choice. At the same time, having sex in such a way that it results in an unwanted pregnancy was probably not a good choice (and I don't want to hear the rape argument because we all know that wasn't a choice.) Yes, accidents/"bad luck" can happen. But a lot of popular culture also promotes bad decisions (empirically speaking from a medical/financial wellbeing standpoint.) Dealing with the choice down the road can be an issue. Changes to the woman's body/chemistry aren't magically undone with an abortion. Can we come up with better solutions for avoiding the potential for abortions?

So I guess I'm pro the possibility of abortion. But, I'm against the promotion of abortions. I'm pro you should do everything in your power to avoid the potential of having to consider having one.

You should have a right to get an abortion in the same way you have a right to take chemo. Less of the you have the right to get an abortion the same way you have the right to get your ears pierced.

Come on bro your more artistic, and talented than me. Make your own damn sign promoting abortion and march right to left.

Unborn Lives Matter!!! Murder is murder. The only reason it is allowed is not because the Democrats protect a woman's right to choose. It is because the money abortion generates. Blood money plain and simple.

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen you post. And that's really saying something.

Look up the cost of prenatal care, and giving birth. Then look up the cost of an abortion. After your brain wraps its mind around the fact that an abortion is a small fraction of the cost of carrying a baby full term, get back to us.