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Jay-Z scores 10th U.S. chart-topper

Wed Nov 14, 2:34 PM ET



NEW YORK (Billboard) - Jay-Z scored his 10th No. 1 album on the U.S. pop album charts Wednesday, a feat that ties the rapper with Elvis Presley in second place for the most trips to the top.

The Beatles lead with 19 chart-toppers, and the Rolling Stones are now fourth.

Jay-Z's "American Gangster" -- a disc inspired by the Denzel Washington-Russell Crowe gangster movie -- sold 425,000 copies in the week ended November 12, according to Nielsen SoundScan. Its tally fell far short of the 680,000-unit start for his previous release, "Kingdom Come," in November 2006.

Since 1998, all eight of Jay-Z's solo studio albums have hit No. 1, in addition to his "Collision Course" project with Linkin Park and his "Unfinished Business" collaboration with R. Kelly.

The Eagles' "Long Road Out of Eden," available mostly at Wal-Mart stores, slipped to No. 2 in its second week with 359,000 units.

Garth Brooks' "The Ultimate Hits" debuted at No. 3 with 352,000 units. Brooks' last studio set, 2001's "Scarecrow," debuted at No. 1 with 466,000. His only releases since then have been Wal-Mart exclusives and were thus not eligible to appear on The Billboard 200. (Billboard changed its rules last week, allowing the Eagles to top the chart.)

Teenaged R&B heartthrob Chris Brown started at No. 4 with his second album, "Exclusive," which sold 294,000 copies. His self-titled 2005 debut opened at No. 2 with 154,000.

Carrie Underwood's "Carnival Ride" fell two to No. 5 with 121,000, while Josh Groban's holiday album, "Noel" rose two to No. 6 with 116,000.

Britney Spears' "Blackout," denied a shot at the top after the Billboard rule change, tumbled five places to No. 7 with 87,000 in its second week.

Taylor Swift's self-titled debut soared 18 places to No. 8 with 68,000. The boost came from the album's DVD-enhanced reissue and her Horizon award for best newcomer at last week's Country Music Assn. Awards in Nashville.

Angels & Airwaves' second album, "I-Empire," began at No. 9 with 66,000. The band's first set, "We Don't Need To Whisper," bowed higher, at No. 4, with 127,000 in May 2006.

His first album since completing jail time and surviving a near-fatal car accident in 2006, rapper Cassidy's "B.A.R.S. The Barry Adrian Reese Story" opened at No. 10 with 63,000. His second album, 2005's "I'm a Hustla," started at No. 5 with 93,000.

Album sales were up 7.5% from last week at 9.95 million units, but down 16.8% from the same week in 2006 (11.95 million).

Reuters/Billboard

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Don't get it twisted, I don't hate rap-----but Jay Z DOES NOT belong in the company of Elvis or the Beatles, or any of the top 5 on this list.

This is hard to believe! I couldnt name one thing he sing's guess im showing my age

Being on top of the record charts is nice, but it's better I'm sure being on top of Beyonce.
Are they still together?
I don't follow things like I used to.
I'm getting older and listen to sports talk with my time now.

While Jay Z has had a great career, and will go down in history as one of the best East Coast Rap Artists of our time, his ascendence to popularity doesn't have nearly the same social impact that Elvis Pressley's had. Elvis' career is comparable to that of the Beatles in the way it changed popular thought regarding race, gender, religion, and style. That's not to say that no Rap Artist has ever changed the American Social Landscape. For me, it was NWA in the early '90s. For most other Americans, it was Dr. Dre's "The Chronic."-But those are West Coast Artists. The East Coast Rap Artist that brought Rap into mainstream American Social culture was "The Notorious BIG" - I tend to favor West Coast Rap, but, I admit that Biggie's hit "Juicy" is the greatest rap tune of all time.

I'd put Jay-Z on par with Elvis. Both are/were extremely good at making mediocre music that hit a note with present society and became very popular. They are probably the two top entrepreneurial musicians I can think of.

I would never put Jay-Z on the same level as the Beatles.

~Lyuokdea

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I'd put Jay-Z on par with Elvis.

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Get off the dope. On par with Elvis, please...
Elvis is the King, he started it all, end of story.
Ball game.

I may sound old & I'm only 40, but who the hell is Jay-Z? Seriously, I think I've heard the name but no clue who he is...

I like Jay-Z.

Maybe because I'm more "modern" or whatever, but Jay-Z never reminded me of any other rappers and there "music". Jay-Z actually raps, not some blabbing on about there life.

But, he'll never top Elvis.

I thought maybe they found him dead and bloated on the toilet.

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Name a "great" Elvis song. Something timeless and beyond hip swings and a decent singing voice.

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If you don't think Heartbreak Hotel, Love Me Tender & Jailhouse Rock (just 3 examples) are timeless... we just don't see rock & roll history & iimpact the same way. No offense, taste & opinion are personal things.
Those songs helped start rock and roll though... and I'm not even a big fan of Elvis's music, I actually prefer Zeppelin.
But, there's only one King.

lol, close......I wonder if his ass was sticking up in the air........not a pretty sight to walk in to

Especially since he'd been dead for several hours before they found him, plus when you croak the bodily functions usually go... if you know what I mean.

Nope, not a pretty sight.

I dunno where to weigh in on this.

As a 22 year old, who has liked rap, and older music, I really dont know.

I've gotten away from newer hip hop because its become monotonous. No one has ever been like Elvis, but no one has been like Jay-Z.

I think the difference is, as its been stated already, is that Jay-Z hasnt really had any major social impact. NWA is one of those bands, but dont forget Public Enemy. Flava and Chuck D were very very very influential. Jay-Z is just a smooth rapper that has caught the eye of society because he has a smooth flow (which depending on who you ask, is even questionable).

Elvis was controversial, and changed SO much about music, that its hard to say that he wasnt huge. Personally, outside of jailhouse rock, I hate his music, but you have to give the man credit.

My only question is really...Jay-Z has 10 albums? since when? I remember Life and Times of Sean Carter and Kingdom Come, but I thought he retired? I lost respect for him when he retired and had a new album out not even 2 years later. I feel like he used that "retirement" to re-gain his popularity that was IMO fading.

I wish Hip Hop would be about something again. Or any music of today. There really is no music that says anything anymore. And everything is so direct, that it just doesnt come off to me as imaginative.

I think that The Nightwatchman, Rage Against The Machine, Public Enemy, Serj Tankian (his new album), Neil Young (yes still), Rise Against, Mos Def, Kanye West and maybe a few others, are the only music that is really worth saying that it says anything of value, and they all make anti-government/society type music. All other music, is love (which isnt bad), self-hate, outward hate, drugs, money, possessions, and sex. It just doesnt have the depth music in the past had.

Well...it has the depth, but not the imagination that past music had.

I dunno if Jay-Z can really be placed on the same level as Elvis, he hasnt changed anything.

Jay-Z's best work was on his album "Reasonable Doubt"

The thing is people are trying to compare Jay-Z and Elvis and thats not the point or the reason for the article/blurb. The facts are the facts and the facts are that Jay-Z and Elvis DO belong in the same sentence in that regard (# of chart topping albums). Like his music or not. It is what it is!

I like all music, but I got to think that had 2pac not been killed he would have been at the top and been comporable to the likes of Elvis and the Beatles. His music actually did tell a story and there was feeling behind it. He wasn't monotonous like present day rappers, as someone stated earlier. Anyone that just appreciates a talented artist was robbed when he was killed.

Let's also take into consideration that when Elvis topped the charts, there was only 1 chart, now there is a chart for each style of music, so there are 10 number 1's any given week. Not to mention that the ability to purchase and play music, is way far ahead of what they had in the 50's when the only record player was in the living room, so many kids just listened to music on the radio since their parents wouldn't let them play Elvis on the "family" stereo.

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I do not like the last 2 albums all that much, aside from 5-6 songs.

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Yeah, Kingdom Come was kind of blah, I am still listening to American Gangster trying to see where I put it.

At least with somthing like Kingdom Come, its still better than 75% of what hear on the radio.

I like Jay Z. I think he is the best rapper ever personally.
for the socially concious. there is Mayr J blige (now). And the bald guy with that hat (who is that???) Heck even Fabulus or whatever his name is (that song "breathe" is one of the best songs in the last 5 years.)

I think it's all based on how you interpret on par. In number ones...obviously, in popularity.....no, in changing the music industry....doutbful, talent wise....that's up to musical tastes and opinion based on that.

Let me know when Elvis makes a track better than dead presidents

LMAO.

Infact,

let me know when elvis makes a better album then reasonable doubt.

It never happened

In your opinion, which sucks by the way.

My opinion only sucks to the 40 and over crowd

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let me know when elvis makes a better album then reasonable doubt.

It never happened

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Diffrent era, never heard dead president or reasonable doubt, but I'm guessing it's diffrent type of music, than Elvis, so to compare one against another isnt right, I guess I'm showing my age....

Music is music, neather is better or worse just diffrent...if it makes ya happy and ya like it, great if ya dont, well someone else does so great for them, I like Elvis, Black Sabbath, Johnny Cash, Jimmy Buffett (Yes I'm a parrett head), Doors, Zeplin, molly Hatchet, Lynard Skynard among many many more, it's all good just diffrent

How about Flock of Seagull's greatest hit's?

Fred Bear is the greatest song ever written

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Fred Bear is the greatest song ever written

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No Argument from me.....I love that song...nothing gets ya pumped up more for a day in a tree stand than Fred Bear.....GONZO

i've seen Ted about 15 times.....He did it live came out swinging on a rope with a compound bow in his hand, had deer targets set up around stage....flung himself off the rope, landed and ran off three quick shots, all hitting the vitals of the targets it was awsome.....

I knew youd appreciate that one!

my martin prowler is at gander getting restrung

been shooting the horton crossbow.