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I am praying that he finds another team.

Good Grief.

If true...Well, damn.

Sucks x2, because it also dilutes the field and raises the price of those who are left.

He and Amari Cooper will cancel each other out.

There’s no realistic way we re-sign Sendejo, right? Haha

I would sign Cooper immediately

May take a big name vet to resurrect Mayfield and save him from the critics. Still not confident that Ski can take advantage of veteran talent. I pray that a Cooper can do that. But we need a stronger presence than Cooper, I think. I had higher hopes from him last year.

I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, but the terms would have to be favorable to the Browns. I am not talking about a cheap contract so much, but it would have to have some easy outs and performance triggers included. If not we are probably better off with some mid range guys and rookies because as Bard alluded to, that might be more suited to our style of play. We don't seem to be geared towards the big play, deep ball type receiver for whatever reason.

I don't see him going any cheaper than 15-18 mil. per on the open market.

You know you are in a bad situation when you cut a player and then he basically gets the same contract in the open market.

That's the thing about it though. Often times a players value to a team depends on need at the position of that team. In the case of Cooper I think the way the contract was structured speaks volumes as to the intent of Dallas. I mean we see it all the time. Contracts that re back loaded to the point you pretty much know the team isn't going to honor the last year or two of the contract. The only glitch for Cooper is that this draft is WR heavy. So I don't think the competition for his services will be as high as they would be in some off seasons. But with the ever increasing salary cap rises and higher money contracts across the board, I still say the price range will be in the 15-18 mil. range.

What is wrong with the Browns doing something with unfavorable terms.
I would say the OBJ situation ended as a look back as a whole situation of unfavorable terms, investment to return.
The same with (redacted) still on the team, so,
Favorable terms? What has that ever gotten anyone.

Why sign another teams WR ahead of Landry, we know what we have in him, he is not just a very good WR but a leader in the locker room and on the field, if your going pay Cooper more than Landry then just pay sign Landry his $16 mil first then go get a FA WR ...

Probably about right. That is why I said not a cheap contract. Just one that is favorable to the team.

Basically, Landry's money gets it done. Structure is usually the big deal when you get in to high dollar contracts.

I'm as big a Landry fan as anyone (except for maybe the poster that gave him the nickname 'vice grips'), but you got a pile of money and you have to choose to give it to Landry or Cooper you give it to Cooper every time. No question.

It's not the best year to be a mid-tier free agent WR. Even someone as good as Landry is going to be faced with the fact that there are several more skilled/talented WRs in free agency AND it is a year where pretty much every team in the NFL is going to be able to get a good WR in the draft.

Landry is looking at either a restructure here or free agency in a saturated market. I hope he takes the big pay cut that is coming and stays here.

The combination of say Landry, Amari Cooper, and a top rookie WR as our new starting 3 sounds pretty dang good to me!

Landry needs stay here, we can win big this year and he would be a big part of that ...

Don't forget DPJ ...

As a #4... I could never forget him.

As anything more than that, though, he has some work to do.

A little unkind? I thought DPJ looked like a legit rookie 2020. He regressed a bit last year and I think he had some injury woes like most on the team. If his ceiling when healthy is a #3 - I think we'd be in good shape. I think he's got potential to improve and be a solid #2.

Not unkind at all, I think; just not sugar-coated.
Your quote right there kinda sums it up: that's where he *could* be if he continues to improve, but that isn't where IS. At least, not yet.


As it stands, he is *not* a better WR than Landry, and if we were to keep Landry and bring in the like of Amari, then right off the bat, DPJ is no more than the #3. Add in a highly drafted rookie and he stands to slide back even further.

Yeah, DPJ won’t ever be a #1 IMO. But he can be good depth

j/c:



And the supply for high-end WRs in free agency possibly gets smaller.

Won't be surprised to see the Browns franchise tag Njoku if they can't get a deal done.

This is what happens every year when Browns fans make their wish list before the tags are assigned. After all is said and done, there isn't usually a glut of talent left at any one position on the FA market. And for those that are left, their services are in high demand. Mid level players are your best investments in the FA market unless you can run up on a deal like we did with Clowney last year. I thought our FO did a pretty good job at finding those mid level players last year and that's what I'm expecting to see a lot of this year. I'm not ruling out the chance we sign some top level WR or DE on the FA market, but the bulk of our movements will be for mid level talent. I don't think we have a FO that will overpay by a large margin for what's left at the top of the FA talent. It just doesn't seem like the way they roll.

j/c...

The Cowboys are going to lose Amari Cooper because they signed Ezekiel Elliott to a ridiculous extension when they already had his replacement on the roster.

Johnny Stanton time.

j/c...

Never mind!

Not anymore we are not....sorry bout ur luck calvin....shoukd learned from pete rose

whoa

j/c:

Another TE gets the franchise tag.

One player that is not getting much run so far is DJ Chark. Maybe that changes as more WRs are removed from the pool.