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Hunt now a trade candidate to free up much needed cap.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/kareem-hunt-trade-candidate-d-130329371.html

Figured as much. writing was on the wall with the tendering of D. Johnson.

If we had tendered Johnson at a higher level this would be more believable.

i think with us seeing more of D'ernest during the back half of the season made Hunt expendable.

Keenum will be let go and would not be surprised if Tretter is let go.

Yeah I'm hoping Keenum and his contract is dumped, would rather see Mariota or Trubisky there to push Baker.

If either one of those could remotely do well enough to push Baker, then we just need to release Baker right now because they're both barely better than journeyman backups.

I feel like this source is coming from the Browns' camp to manufacture more demand.

BUT THEY SAID MAYFIELD WAS THE STARTER!?!?

Yeah, they couldn't possibly be looking at current veterans to play back-up. The narrative around here gets pretty crazy sometimes.

So you didn’t click the link?

Yes I did. It seems you put your eggs into the "rumblings" and "probably" basket.

You know all too well how much BS and false information gets put out this time of year. The best even this guy could do was use "rumblings and probably" to put a preface on things.

But then when your agenda is clear, grasping at straws is the logical progression of things.

My agenda of saying, the entire off-season, that Baker is most likely our QB in 2022?

Also, the point of saying, “BUT THEY SAID MAYFIELD WAS THE STARTER!?!?” is to point out how many lies are going around this time of year.

He is... unless there's a better option... that's the way it should be... if you can improve any position why wouldn't you?

That’s been my point the whole off-season.

Are you now trying to claim you have been an advocate of Baker being the starter this coming season and that you have been supporting that? Or is it your claim you felt that would be the outcome? Because those two things are quite different.

if we stick with Baker - which is most likely- please dont bring any bums like Mariota or Trubisky here. keep Case and lets sure up the depth on offense and ride out.

I have thought the most likely outcome was the Baker would be the starter in 2022. I think the team should explore better options (which it seems they are doing).

For that to be true, one would have to treat a season where he played with a torn labrum as a part of his body of work. That's disingenuous at best. I think you mean there are "rumbles" that's what the team is doing.

It’s fine if you don’t want to trust what people online are saying. I have no problem with that. When the right people are saying stuff, I listen.

I've watched the same thing happen year after year. False rumors and just BS being repeated. Both teams and player agents have a lot of incentive to spread such rumors. At this time of the year it's very difficult to figure out who "the right people" are. All of them want to get the scoop. When MKC jumps on the bandwagon of what you consider the right people, color me skeptical.

MKC jumps on every report. She is irrelevant.

I haven't seen anyone who is relevant state it as a fact either. They're always putting a preface on it. For the most part even they are reporting it as a rumor. ie.... "I've heard", "sources are saying" or "There are rumblings". I believe they are hearing it as well. So in actuality, it seems I agree with them more than you do for the most part.

Agree...I think there's enough there that the browns are indeed inquiring about Watson, but I'd be extremely surprised if we actually traded for him... his price tag is going to be pretty high and he has his option of where he wants to go...

Which "right people" are saying the Browns are desperate to sign Watson --- and/or are saying the FO is desperately trying to move on from Baker? I've missed it.

No one, that I’ve seen, has said the Browns are desperate to move on from Baker. There are several people that I trust that have said the Browns are interested in Watson.

I'd like to know how many DTs want Watson? Saw a random fan poll on Twitter that had 2/3s vote against it. No idea if that holds true in our fan base, but would like to know or see more polls.

Yes - who ?

And to be fair - I think the Browns should be interested in signing or trading for every single QB they think is better than Baker in the NFL. That would be called due diligence. It would not mean much other than them doing their job. Your list is (way) longer than mine - but I bet they'd be interested in at least a dozen other QB's. Watson 'might' be somewhat attainable. That does not mean they are interested in the asking price.

details of the deal

This.

I don't see what's so hard to understand about this. They are committed to Baker, but not to the point where they'll turn down an opportunity to improve a position. Browns kicked the tires on a number of vet QBs, and put in an offer for Watson. Everything still holds true (they still like Baker, they think they need to improve the backup spot (my guess), and Watson is a young 3x Pro Bowler that is going to another team). If certain reports are true, the Browns offer was considered 'weak'. I think this all supports the above point.

There's no actual evidence they put in an offer for Watson.