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Last year when Deshaun Watson first wanted out of Houston the question was posed would you trade Mayfield for Watson. Most Browns fans said No! Then 2021 happened and Mayfield was terrible. Now, Watson seems to be a much better option than Mayfield. We better sure hope Watson doesn't get hurt too. Won't be an issue. Watson will sit himself down and not try to fight through the injury.
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Stefanski is a typical rattlesnake. I don’t believe a word he says. Diggs. OBJ. Landry. Baker. Who’s next?
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Stefanski is a typical rattlesnake. I don’t believe a word he says. Diggs. OBJ. Landry. Baker. Who’s next? What are you even talking about? Do you have an example?
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I think it would have been the right thing for the front office to do let Baker know that they were going after Watson. They did, according to reports, tell him they would go after a QB if it was an upgrade. Your my favorite poster, but were you drunk last night?
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I think it would have been the right thing for the front office to do let Baker know that they were going after Watson. They did, according to reports, tell him they would go after a QB if it was an upgrade. Your my favorite poster, but were you drunk last night? I don't know what you are talking about but the quote above is from last than an hour ago.
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You were slurrrring your massages. lol why does this sound so dirty
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A different world: [Russell Wilson] has a no-trade clause in his current contract, and there’s a reason for it. As Simms said during the conversation, the Seahawks talked to the Browns about a potential trade that would have sent Wilson to Cleveland for the No. 1 overall pick in the 2018 draft.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Browns contend that the idea was “floated” conceptually, but that the discussion did indeed happen. At the time, the Seahawks were staring at another extension for Wilson, one that would result a year later in a contract with a new-money value of $35 million per year. And the placement of a no-trade clause in the latest contract was indeed influenced by chatter regarding the potential trade to Cleveland, we’re told.
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If Baker plays the season and the results are not good. What happens?
He will be left to go to free agency. Watson is on another team. So is Grappolo. So is Trubisky, Jameis, Carr and Cousins.
Where does that leave the Browns? In a rebuild with a bunch of good players in their prime. And no quarterback.
So we draft a quarterback next year and will he be ready to lead a team? That of course is unknown.
Not a good situation. I am not going to comment on morals and ethics. Watson is going to be on a team.
Watson is 26 and has proven himself. Players will want to play with him. He was liked as a teammate in Houston.
There is a lot at play here.
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Cowherd is wrong again as usual. Baker's message to the fans before he was traded again showed his immaturity. A professional would have stayed quite and let the process played out and then sent that letter after he was dealt. Baker sees himself as a celebrity and wanted to protect his image nothing more.
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Cowherd is wrong again as usual. Baker's message to the fans before he was traded again showed his immaturity. A professional would have stayed quite and let the process played out and then sent that letter after he was dealt. Baker sees himself as a celebrity and wanted to protect his image nothing more. It might have just been me, but his message seemed to be about him as much as it was about the fans.
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So now what are we to do without those wonderful progressive insurance commercials with Baker???
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I have a general question: If everything last year was Baker's fault, and the receivers were so wide open on every play, then why did the Browns allow OBJ to leave for nothing last year, and Landry and Higgins to do the same this year?
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Wow! So they can't keep a good group together for 16 months?
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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So now what are we to do without those wonderful progressive insurance commercials with Baker??? Thank God those will be over.
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I have a general question: If everything last year was Baker's fault, and the receivers were so wide open on every play, then why did the Browns allow OBJ to leave for nothing last year, and Landry and Higgins to do the same this year? OBJ and Landry were likely gone either way because of their contracts. Every coaching staff has put Higgins in the doghouse.
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Yes. Signed with the Panthers. Who
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Yes. Signed with the Panthers. Who Somebody asked if Higgins was gone, then deleted their post.
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Nevermind. This is not the thread for Higgins.
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Maybe I am dead wrong.
But the narrative of Baker has to go even if Watson goes to another team is total BS IMO.
The quote by Mortenson "Browns want an adult." is another BS headline.
Why would the Browns trade Baker if Watson is out? They don't have to trade him. Who would replace Baker and give this team a better chance to win?
Nobody left out there. That is the truth. Baker knows the team and the offense. If there is something we do not know. It would have to be extreme to cause them to move Baker. The other BS is he has a problem with Stefanski. Not any more than he would have with any coach. Head coach and qb are not always eye to eye. That is more normal than not. They work together. You are not always going to agree.
The Baker letter to the fans. Please that is who Baker is. He is going to be Baker. Love him or hate him. That is who he is. I don't make a big deal about that at all.
IMO it is more likely Baker is our quarterback this year than Watson. We have a 25% chance. I don't see a favorite. It is up to where he wants to go based upon his own reasons.
At this point I have become desensitized to this decision. I just want to win and i don't control a thing.
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The quote by Mortenson "Browns want an adult." is another BS headline.
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The Baker letter to the fans. Please that is who Baker is. He is going to be Baker. Love him or hate him. That is who he is. I don't make a big deal about that at all.
Normally I'd agree with you, but his goodbye letter via SM when he's still on the team does lend credence to the 'just want an adult' thing. Baker is throwing a temper tantrum because he think he's entitled to his FO never pursuing an upgrade at QB. I'm sorry, but if "that's just who he is", that's a bummer because that's not a fQB mentality/behavior. Rip on Tua and JimmyG all you want (I do), but it's not hard to look around and see how your fQB is supposed to act.
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I do not see that letter that way.
Baker knows football. He knows Jarvis is gone. He knows every position is always trying to be improved.
He knows the score. He was informed. He knows he has to play the best he can play. Of all people he knows that.
IMO he thought if he is traded he simply wanted to say thanks.
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For another week at most.
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I do not see that letter that way.
Baker knows football. He knows Jarvis is gone. He knows every position is always trying to be improved.
He knows the score. He was informed. He knows he has to play the best he can play. Of all people he knows that.
IMO he thought if he is traded he simply wanted to say thanks.
Baker is gone. It's been reported multiple times over Baker is gone regardless of the Watson trade. His letter was another example of his emotional immaturity. You send that letter after you've been traded or released, not before. I can't think of another example that has happened in the NFL.
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Think about Matt Ryan he’s been with the Falcons since 2008 and not a peep.
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JimmyG saw his replacement drafted and look at his response.
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Ditto, he says goodbye on social media....AFTER, he says he's done with it. He ruins his season TACKLING, rather than THROWING. JMHO, there has to be a reason they didn't pay him.....none of us know the real story....roll with Mariota, he won't tackle and he's more mobile than Baker. Go Browns!!!!
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Think about Matt Ryan he’s been with the Falcons since 2008 and not a peep. Darnold neither. And Tua played all of last year without a comment after it came out Miami was interested in Watson.
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Chris Mortensen is on WKNR right now and said that it was someone in the organization that told him directly that the Browns want an "adult at QB" and stated the comment was even before Baker's thank you/farewell letter.
He's also saying the Browns and Baker are breaking up.
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Watson is the better talented QB than Mayfield all around
But, lets not act like Watson had the Texans going deep in
The playoffs as the Texans starter.
Bringing in.Watson does not guarantee a SB for the Browns
I think Mayfield could be a fit in Detroit cause Dan Campbell
And him have that same lets go team rah rah mindset bite your
Shins mindset.
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I think Mayfield could be a fit in Detroit cause Dan Campbell
And him have that same lets go team rah rah mindset bite your
Shins mindset. Is this a short person joke?
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The river caught fire and it was Jimma and Depo who started it, thinking they had a done deal with Watson and throwing Mayfield under the bus, then trying to sell their story that Mayfield would be a great QB prospect for any team looking for a QB.
Haslam ande Depo did this to themselves and the Browns franchise that once again is looking like the last place any player would want to play.
You can't fix that level of stupidity..!
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