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Mature QBs get a private QB coach.

I will certainly do what seems logical. If a FO made public statements about me being the future QB and then publicly made a mockery of that and showed they did not support me, I would publicly treat them in the exact same manner they treated me. Then of course I would have people like you blaming that on me for giving them exactly what they gave me. I admire people who stick up for themselves. I'm not a corporate ass kisser even if it's the Browns.

Yeah, that's what it is. the fact you wish to compare a guy with 22 sexual accusers is the same thing as me wanting choirboys. Do you even hear yourself?

That's a t-shirt idea! Call GV Artwork.

According to Pluto the Browns are denying they ever made the 'adult' comment. However he also stated that he know Mort and Mort wouldnt have said it if it wasnt true. Luckily for the Browns they have several layers where they can burying such a mistake, while Baker just has to own his. I didnt read Baker's letter the way everyone else did, it sounded to me more like a 'Hey Ill play hard wherever I am". message. The Browns were looking to move on I believe and they will grab any excuse to do so at this point. I just fear we are wasting a lot of talent to target a good draft spot way earlier than we should.

My hearing is just fine... thank you for your concern...

pit...on this message board, one of the most difficult things for some to admit is, THEY WERE WRONG..!!

How many of you gave one thought about what a mess it was going to be for the Browns franchise when the first woman in Cleveland accused Watson of inappropriate sexual conduct..?

What would Haslam and Depo do..?

Talk about a grenade about to explode in Cleveland...that is what this franchise would have been facing.

so we have no higgins, no OBJ, no jarvis, no Hooper.

only weapon we tried to replace is getting Amari Cooper. While i think our TE's are solid, if we have some questionable WR's like everyone says we do, then we should be trying to make a play for Allen Robinson, right?

What if Allen Robinson is waiting to see where Watson lands?

I agree I think Allen Robinson would be a huge get for the Browns.

then i guess its WR at 13? i dunno how much a rookie will contribute though.

We were rumored to be in on Robinson Monday. We’ll sign another receiver for sure.

Yeah, but that wasn't logical.

Care to address the second half of the post?

I agree about overblown. I do worry about Baker. I like the guy, but he is a bit of a head case. Already writing and releasing his farewell letter is a little dramatic, no?

He will play this year, but I worry about him playing here after that. I don't know the franchise rate, but it has to be pushing 40 mil a year. I don't think the guy will sign here. Just the way he is IMO.

None of those guys did much for us, so I don't see a big loss.

thats one way to get a happy ending

Jarvis was a leader that helped turn this team around

Here's what the depth chart looks like. You can put Felton in there, he's listed with the RB's. This looks pretty thin.

Yea we need some help

I see us drafting a WR or two and at least 1 TE , we may go after one or the other in FA also ...

The new league year started yesterday and we already have a new #1 wide receiver. We are not in a bad spot.

100%... Jarvis certainly hurts.... I liked Hooper and thought Higgins had talent, but Jarvis is a big hole to fill from a talent and leadership stand point. Didn't have a great year last year, but he'll be missed.

We need to bring in more weapons at WR... I think we'll draft a WR in the first three rounds and would like to bring on another via FA...

Here is the issue with Baker Mayfield. He is either the 3rd or 4th best QB in the AFC North. He is nt better than the Bengals QB Joe Borrow. He is not better than Lamar Jackson. He may be slightly better than Micth Trubisky. Their career stats are actually very similar but Baker has played on superior teams than Mitch.

Baker is an average at best QB. He could possibly be a game manager but the problem is he turns the ball over too much to be a game manager. Baker wants to be a gun slinger QB but he lacks the pure talent. He does not see the field well enough. A #1 overall QB should never have been a short QB. I would have rather swung and missed with Sam Darnold on draft night. In hinds sight the Browns should have drafted John Allen.

Baker is immature and his selfish goodbye letter about himself to the fans proved that. He freelances on the field in structured offense. When his strengths on the field is when he takes what the defense gives him and streads the ball around. He does not seem to be well liked in the locker room. Probably because he sees himself more highly than what he is.

The Browns roster is ready to win now. What is holding the team back? Baker. Reminds me of the Bengals with Andy Dalton. Best roster in the NFL with an everage at best QB holding them back.

Only way the Browns should bring him back is if he was willing to give up his social media accounts, his commercials / celebrity, be a work out warrior, first man in the building and last man to leave. Figure out a way to see the field better and actually be able to use his best attribute. His big arm.

Jarvis was a big deal for us. Not so much last year. He will not be a big loss but he was a great leader that helped turn this team around

I'm trying to stay out of this whole pi$$ing match. But I will posit this: Mayfield had CeeDee Lamb, Marquis Brown, Sterling Sheperd, Mark Andrews, Joe Mixon, DeeDee Westbrooke among his receivers at OU. If we continue to get A-list receivers I think he'll be just fine after getting over his surgery and this DeShaun Watson fiasco.

Sure.


Many of those very same people are posting and claiming that yet another PR statement is accurate. The claim that the FO talked to Baker's people and explained they would only pursue an upgrade at the QB position as of their public statement.

It's a case of believing such statements if it helps support what they believe on one hand and making excuses why we shouldn't believe them on the other hand. I'm not salty, I'm entertained by it all.

They just can’t be too a list.

Could have been made by some random person in the office that has a grudge too. That's what I hate about "A source told me", and If I was an executive and one of my staff was making statements like that I'd put out some threats of pink slips if/when I find out who. An "adult" would know not to say things like that to the media.

(sarcasm not directed to Memphis)

Really? It made it's way to Baker? I mean, it was posted on this board how many times. Of course it got to Baker.

I heard it came from “a Florida Man”.

Self entertained? Because you do this every single day on these forums.

I don’t think Mort would run with it if it was just a random person.

That was pretty quick witted of you. Not that it all made any sense. Yes, when nobody should believe the FO one hand and then people retweet something that makes them look golden, it is entertaining.

My money is on Haslam. He's always doing something stupid.

I find it hard to believe anyone with any real position in the organization would make such a comment to a reporter, if they did, then we have a staff of people who need to start conducting themselves like adults.

That's the thing about sources. It's a lot like statements made by the FO. When a source says something people agree with they're a great source. When that exact same source says something they don't agree with, they become sketchy.