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Don't disagree.. my point is the FO should never air that out in the media... you can call him childish or say you want an adult at QB all you want behind closed doors... I think it was in bad taste and unprofessional for someone to tell a member of the media that...

I wonder what the exact wording was with this. I agree it would be horribly unprofessional for a member of the front office (or anyone in the organization really) to say they want and "adult at QB" but keep in mind the media hears you say one thing and reports something very different at times.

Baler trade to Steelers?

NEVER!

baker giving the keys back...omg

I had a couple of my steeler friends text me last night saying they'd love to get Baker.... I think there's zero chance we'd trade him within the division....

Seattle or indy makes most sense...

Who ever gives us the most for Baker. I don't care which team.

Baker and the cheese cake factory... anyone remember ? Anyone care ?

j/c…

i guess if i applied my morals of staying faithful, i should've stopped watching the browns when that happened.

or, i should've stopped watching the browns the moment we drafted a QB with a video of him running from the cops. ya know, cause we really care about the law around here.

If true the woman said it was consensual. What Watson allegedly did was. . . not consensual.

j/c

so basically Baker is not good enough to play for the Browns and too good to play for the Steelers.

would you trade him to a division rival?

screw what everybody else has to say. speak for yourself as if you were the GM. would you trade him to the steelers, or somewhere else? the GM. in houston refused to let the colts, a division rival, speak to watson. they were fine anywhere else.

If you think that guy isn't good enough to be a winning QB, you trade him for the best return, no matter who that team may be.

would you trade baker to the steelers?

Why not? If he's no good, trade him for the best offer.

I have to laugh when I hear some people who just lambasted Baker as a QB now saying that we can't trade him to the Steelers. IKf he';s as bad as some say, then absolutely trade him to the Steelers, if they have the best offer.

If people are being honest the gamble is too high to trade him in the division. Nobody wants to trash a player only to get beaten by them twice a year for 5-10 years.

Depends on what they offered.

I'd probably want future picks. He'd be the worst QB in his division playing behind a mediocre OL trying to work in new pieces. They lost Juju and Washington at WR. They'd probably have to franchise Baker or give him a huge contract to keep him beyond this season.

If they offered us a future 2 and 5 and that was the best offer, I'd probably take it. If they offered more than that, I would definitely take it.

Unfortunately, I don't think they gave Trubisky a healthy signing bonus just to turn around and trade for Baker. It seems they want to try to take advantage of a rookie QB contract going forward.

damn you cant even answer the question? i would if they were offering the most. but if them and another team offer the same assets, then ill pick the other team.

see how easy it is to answer questions and not dodge it? one day you might be capable of the same.

With the right team Baker could be great. They said the same things about Stafford. Look what he did after he left that loser franchise in Detroit.

DO NOT TRADE BAKER TO THE STEELERS! That's all we need is a healthy, motivated Baker playing us twice a year.

i wouldnt mind garrett smacking.....i mean handing him back his helmet twice a year.

I'd much rather stay salty than play ignorant. I'll leave that up to others. And I'm not even salty.

22 accusers verses 1 accuser. Does anyone else see how crazy this sounds?

I think the better question is this. Would you take a 2022 2nd round draft pick from Seattle or Carolina or a 2023 1st round pick from the Colts. I think and believe the Browns need to play the QB needy team against each other. I highly doubt that Seattle or Carolina would offer a 1st because they are building a team for the future and would just be kicking the tires to see what they possibly could have with Baker. The Colts believe they are a QB away from contending for the playoffs and further. If they think Baker could give them the best chance at that and they think they could win the AFC South their 2023 will be at the very least be a high 20's pick they may offer a 2023 1st for Baker. Which pick who be most valuable to you if your GM?

That's much easier to do when you have any leverage. Everyone in the league and even rational fans know that Baker and Deshawn can't exist in the same locker room. They know it would be a stupid decision, like signing Deshawn wasn't, to pay Deshawn's contract and Baker 18 mil. as a backup at the same time. The Browns backed themselves in a corner. They blew the Deshawn deal which would have meant Deshawn wasn't coming here. Then Baker pretty much told them to stick it where the sun don't shine. That left the browns screwed at their own hands. At that point they had no choice but to go back to the table and let Deshawn write his own check to be a Brown.

The league knows the Browns are stuck. They know they are desperate to get rid of Baker. No other team in the league is going to pay you very much when your own stupidity put you in such a position. They made the pie so now they will have to eat it.

The NFL would have serious problems on who they want to help win the game. Nawh they would help the steelers all of a sudden and roughing Baker would be called every time.

While the league knows that the Browns have to unload Baker. Teams that want a QB and IF they see Baker as their best option they will be competing against each other. Seattle, Carolina, and Indy I beieve will be the top options. I do not see New Orleans and Atlanta offering for Baker. If they do it would be better for the Browns. Just like in business competition is a good thing.

yea we gotta remember that teams desperate for a QB are gonna pay up for one. with Baker, i think we could get a 2nd and 3rd, or two 3rds and some lower picks.

No matter how you slice it, we won't get the same value we would have if the owner hadn't created this situation.

I want him to come to ATL.

would they have enough cash to keep him on the roster with ryan? or would they have to move him first?

I don't know. Maybe do a multi-team trade.

Ryan --> Indy
Baker --> ATL
Browns get Indy 2nd rounder.

If they trade Baker to the Steelers, his ass would win the next 30 games straight. Don't tempt fate like that.

I read a twitter that said the Browns don't want to send him to an AFC team.

Baker to Seattle, Carolina, Houston, Indy, or ATL all make the most sense at the moment. But for some reason I get the feeling he will somehow be the next QB for the Niners.

Cutting Baker? I guess you have no idea that his contract is guaranteed. Spend 18.9M just to get a guy you dislike off the team - seems like a Browns move. Just like they are paying Hooper over 11M across the next two seasons. There are some pretty stupid suggestions and moves going on in Cleveland.