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"Russia claims it will then open humanitarian corridors for civilians and disarmed soldiers."


Haven't they said that like half a dozen times, only to ambush the corridor?

That, or the only corridors they will agree to is to have refugees going to Russia.

Russia says Biden’s ‘war criminal’ claim has put relations ‘on the verge of rupture’

-Russia says it told U.S. Ambassador John Sullivan that President Joe Biden’s decision to label Russian President Vladimir Putin a “war criminal” has put “Russian-American relations on the verge of rupture.”

-Biden said March 16 that he believes Russian leader Vladimir Putin “is a war criminal” for his attacks on Ukraine. It was the first time Biden had publicly branded Putin with that phrase.

-The diplomatic breakdown comes as Russia nears the one month point in its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/21/rus...lations-are-on-the-verge-of-rupture.html

It's a pleasant change of pace to see a president with the balls to stand up to Putin.

Given what I think Russia wants out of this.... and given that I've heard almost every Ukrainian say they are willing to die before they give that up.. I'm not sure how they could ever reach an agreement.

Somebody is upset that we are breaking up with his idol's boyfriend. Tyranny is not an American value, 40, I tried to tell you that.

Riiiiiiiiiiight....

Trying to financially bankrupt Russia didn't do it. Cutting them off from the international banking community didn't do it. Seizing assets of all the oligarchs didn't do it. Watching them invade a peaceful nation and start indiscriminately killing innocent civilians didn't do it. It was those mean (but accurate) words about Vladimir, that was the last straw... What an egomaniac, narcissistic, clown show that man is.

You mean like when Biden gave the ok for the Russians to pump Nat Gas through that pipeline to Germany?

You mean like when Biden did nothing to sanction Russia when they were amassing troops on Ukraine's border?

You mean like when Biden said we could look the other way over any SMALL incursions Russia made into Ukraine?

You mean balls like that?

Biden has no authority to stop Germany from importing oil from Russia. Biden did halt the country he is actually president of from importing oil from Russia. I know you think we should have a president that plays the part of the bully to the entire globe. It doesn't work that way. Get back to me when we hear something like this.....


Yeah, let me know when Biden takes the word of Putin while at the very same time undermines our entire intelligence community comrade.

You think Germany was waiting from a thumbs up from Biden to pump from Russia?

You mean these folks in intelligence...

US intel veterans lied about ‘Russian plot’ — and the media bought it hook, line and sinker

If there is one thing that the Hunter Biden laptop episode has proved, it is that former directors of the CIA aren’t as adept at evaluating evidence as advertised.

Five former directors or acting directors of the CIA signed a letter asserting that the laptop, first reported by this newspaper in the weeks before the election, “has all the hallmarks of Russian information operation.”

More than 50 former senior ­intel officials, including former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, signed the letter, which was used by the Biden campaign and the media to discredit the damning e-mails about Hunter Biden’s business dealings.

https://nypost.com/2020/12/14/us-in...he-media-bought-it-hook-line-and-sinker/

The idea that the Trumpians holds any sort of high ground with Russia is absolutely laughable.... 4 years of Trump acting like and essentially being Putin's little sycophant biatch.

OH BUT HILARY
OOH BUT HUNTER

LMAO. You shill.

Bro, I promise not to vote for hunter biden. You?

I won't be voting for Hunter. I wouldn't have voted for Joe if there had been a better candidate ... but alas there as not.

I find it hilarious that the party of insurrection still thinks what they want is relevant. They have no seat at this table.

I don't think I believe this, but at the same time nothing surprises me anymore.

I’d be curious to see how they would figure something like that out.

Much like Oober I'm a bit skeptical. It seems they've been telling us that Russian troops have been low on supplies for some time now.

I have seen similar information from a variety of sources... they all may be getting it from the same place, I don't know... but a number of "military experts" and former generals have been saying this..

Which caused me to think, maybe the play, if you are Ukraine... is to stop fighting the Russia soldiers so fiercely and let them move toward the middle of the country, and focus your efforts on cutting off the supply lines behind them. That's my never-been-in-the-military and never-studied-military-strategy thought.

F-KleFF Posse©.
#represent.

Crazy haunting. Wow.

Ukrainians go on counteroffensive even as Russia tries to subdue strategic port
Patrick J. McDonnell, Jaweed Kaleem, Laura King
Tue, March 22, 2022, 7:37 PM

Ukrainian forces defending the capital, Kyiv, managed to wrest back control of a strategic outlying town that Russian troops had earlier captured, Ukrainian officials said Tuesday, but invading troops were reported to have breached the besieged port city of Mariupol, scene of some of the war’s most harrowing attacks on civilians.

Russia’s massive but seemingly foundering invasion of its western neighbor lurched toward the beginning of a second month, as Western officials redoubled warnings that an increasingly frustrated Russian President Vladimir Putin might resort to the use of chemical or other unconventional weapons. That concern was expected to be prominently raised at a North Atlantic Treaty Organization summit Thursday, with President Biden in attendance.

In Russia, where Putin has recently imposed some of the most repressive measures of his more than two decades in power, the country’s premier opposition figure, Alexei Navalny, was sentenced to nine more years in prison on charges of fraud and contempt of court. Navalny responded by calling online for his compatriots to topple Putin, whom he described as a “toad sitting on an oil pipe.”

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, meanwhile, sought to frame the Russian attack as a menace that extends well beyond Ukraine’s borders. In a speech to the Italian Parliament — the latest in a series of stirring virtual addresses to Western lawmakers — he described Ukraine as a vital gateway by which “they mean to enter Europe.”

International appeals for a halt to the fighting have so far been fruitless, but U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres made a forceful call Tuesday, branding the war “morally unacceptable, politically indefensible and militarily nonsensical.” Guterres urged serious negotiations, though Russia again rebuffed Zelensky's call for direct talks with Putin.

In Mariupol, where satellite photos and accounts from residents who have escaped painted a picture of unending destruction, desperate rescue attempts continued Tuesday. Officials have said survivors of missile attacks, including strikes on a theater and an art school that together sheltered more than 1,400 people, have been trapped under rubble for days.

In Washington, a senior U.S. Defense official told reporters Tuesday that Russian forces were inside the devastated city, whose prewar population of nearly 450,000 has dwindled to about a quarter of that number, according to Ukrainian officials. But the city remained in Ukrainian hands despite new bombardment Tuesday, local officials said.

Seizing control of Mariupol, on the Sea of Azov, would give Russia a coveted land bridge to the Crimean peninsula, which it grabbed and illegally annexed eight years ago.

The push-and-pull of combat continued elsewhere, with outgunned Ukrainian forces at times trying counteroffensives and at times being driven back. Ukraine reported Tuesday that its forces had recaptured a western Kyiv suburb, Makariv, giving them control of a major access point to the capital and allowing them to block Russian advances from the northwest.

At the same time, the Ukrainian Defense Ministry said Russian troops had partially taken other northwestern Kyiv suburbs, including Bucha and Hostomel. In an overnight video address, Zelensky said that Russia also launched strikes in Zaporizhzhia in the south, leaving four children hospitalized.

Rescue crews were in Zhytomyr, west of Kyiv, where the Ukrainian emergency service said 13 residential buildings were destroyed or damaged by shelling. The mayor of Boryspil, a city 25 miles east of Kyiv, called on residents to abandon their homes because of the violence.

In the south, local authorities reported blasts in two towns, Zelenodolsk and Mala Kostromka, though it was not known whether there were casualties.

"The enemy is slowly trying to move, to go on the offensive somewhere,” Zelensky said.

The continued assault on Ukrainian cities came as international authorities said Russia was resorting to more destructive weapons. U.S. officials say Russia has launched hypersonic missiles, which travel at up to 15 times the speed of sound.

The Pentagon suggested Tuesday that the use of hypersonic missiles might be due to a lack of available alternatives. Calling the missile a "sledgehammer," Defense Department spokesman John Kirby said its use "could very well be tied to inventory" and to "performance problems that they’re having with respect to precision-guided munitions.”

Putin has repeatedly made unfounded allegations that Ukraine is developing chemical weapons with U.S. assistance. Linda Thomas-Greenfield, the U.S. ambassador to the U.N., on Tuesday called those claims "ludicrous" and warned they were “a precursor for Russia’s plans to use chemical weapons" itself. Biden voiced similar concerns a day earlier.

The war has sent more than 3.5 million people fleeing Ukraine and made air-raid sirens, rubble and fires part of everyday life in Kyiv and other cities. In addition to refugees who have left for such countries as Poland and Romania, more than 6.5 million people are internally displaced in Ukraine, according to the U.N. — meaning that nearly 1 of every 4 residents has been displaced inside or outside the country.

The fighting shows little sign of stopping even as international intelligence groups and Western officials said Ukrainians were largely fending off Russian advances and even notching some gains.

The U.S. is “starting to see indications that [Ukraine is] now able and willing to take back territory that the Russians have taken," said the senior U.S. Defense official, who briefed reporters on condition of anonymity.

Weeks after the invasion was launched Feb. 24, the official said there was no indication Russia was managing to resupply its troops, and some soldiers were even suffering from frostbite because they were not given the right cold-weather gear.

The British Defense Ministry, in an analysis released Tuesday, said Russian forces outside Mariupol and elsewhere "have endured yet another day of limited progress with most forces largely stalled in place."

In another assessment, the Washington-based Institute for the Study of War said that Russia was sending "low-quality” and "low-readiness” reserve troops in the face of losses.

Accurate figures on military deaths are hard to come by. Numbers released this month by the Ukrainian government said that at least 1,300 of its soldiers have died, while Russia claims the number is higher. Russia has put its own troop losses at about 500, but on Monday, Komsomolskaya Pravda, a pro-Kremlin news site, said that more than 9,800 Russian soldiers had died. It later deleted the information and said it had been hacked.

The United Nations says more than 900 civilians are dead from the war. The actual number is probably much higher; Mariupol officials say that more than 3,000 people in their city alone have been killed.

Despite near-daily Russian strikes on Ukrainian population centers, the loss of territory to Russian forces in the east and south and millions of lives upended by the fighting, government officials have portrayed Ukraine as positioned to eventually prevail.

"27th day of the war. Ukraine is combat-ready and logistically mature. It is bad that the war started in Ukraine, but we have proved that Ukraine is the most mobilized country," Ukrainian presidential advisor Mykhailo Podolyak tweeted Tuesday.

Some areas of Ukraine have remained relatively safe. In Lviv, a western city that's become a stopping point for refugees traveling to Poland, sirens sound each day, but populated areas have not been attacked. The closest hit has been on an unoccupied aircraft repair center on the city outskirts last week.

Despite Russian military setbacks — or perhaps because of them — the Kremlin again threw cold water on Zelensky's request for a meeting with Putin, saying that "from the Ukrainian side," there had not been sufficient progress to merit such an encounter.

Talks are moving "much more slowly and less substantively than we would like," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Tuesday, according to Russian state-backed news agency Tass.

Zelensky said last week that he accepts that NATO membership is unlikely. Russia has listed nixing Ukraine's NATO aspirations as one of several non-negotiable demands.

The Ukrainian leader has also suggested that relinquishing Ukrainian claims to Crimea, which Russia annexed in 2014, and Donbas, a southeastern region that's home to a pro-Russia separatist movement, were also up for discussion. But he added that any "historic" changes would require a national referendum.

McDonnell reported from Lviv, Kaleem from London and King from Washington. Times staff writer Sarah D. Wire in Washington contributed to this report.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-braces-more-destruction-biden-112156372.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...quits-over-ukraine-war-and-leaves-russia

One of Putin's top advisors resigns over the war and has left Russia. Hopefully the first pepple to slip that will lead to an avalanche.

I wonder if it might be feasible to offer sanctions relief to high profile Russians to do things such as that.

I love that idea, but I doubt it would play well in the court of public opinion (giving the wealthy ruling class a lifeline that wouldn't be extended to the masses).

We haven't moved at all on sanctions for a while now, correct? Are we reloading, or did we run out of ammo?

I heard a fantastic segment on NPR on Monday - essentially talking about the Oligarchs and their evolution - from them being in control and getting Yeltsin re-elected and them basically running things... to when Putin took over and how Putin has taken back all the control and the Oligarchs have no power/control. It talked about the impact of sanctions and mentioned that there are some sanctions that could still be in play - but it sounded like there aren't many options left and once your remove the threat of sanctions, and the sanctions are in place, there is not much leverage anymore!

I can never find podcasts or replays of things I listen to on NPR - a quick search found this article which looks like it might mirror some of the info on Oligarchs etc.

There is a meeting that will be conducted tomorrow to help decide just that.

NATO leaders will decide on next steps to protect and defend all Allies

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_193630.htm

We haven't completely ran out of ammo but to really ramp up pressure to a much greater extent will take our NATO partners working in concert with us.

This is more in depth as to what they plan to discuss. If even some of these measures are taken I expect it will increase tension in the Eastern European region and leave the consequences of what Putin will do in response at the very least anyone's guess.

Press conference

by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg previewing the extraordinary Summit of NATO Heads of State and Government

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_193610.htm

And not just pertaining to you but something I'm not sure that many people are aware of. We saw headlines that we were sending a few thousand troops to Europe a couple of time in the news. Which on the surface appears a pretty weak response to all of this. What I'm not so sure of is if people know we currently have about 100k troops deployed in Europe.

US has 100,000 troops in Europe for first time since 2005

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/eu...ord-high-europe-war-ukraine-5350187.html

j/c...

War Crimes?

I fear we ain't seen nothing yet.

Next up, the Russians go with Chemical Weapons.

NATO needs to get ahead of it and have a response planned for when it happens.

Yeah that’s probably true. I thought I saw on CNN today that Biden was meeting with European leaders to discuss additional sanctions. I could be wrong.

I agree. It seems like intel reports are lending more to a greater possibility of that happen. I’m not sure of the likelihood being greater than not, but it appears to be greater than it was for sure.

Like when Trump responded to Turkey using chemical weapons ... with utter silence?

Putin Adviser Chubais Quits Over Ukraine War, Leaves Russia

• Respected longtime reformer had been Kremlin’s climate envoy
• Few senior insiders have gone public opposing invasion

Anatoly Chubais
Anatoly ChubaisSource: Bloomberg
Bloomberg News
March 23, 2022, 7:37 AM EDTUpdated onMarch 23, 2022, 11:15 AM EDT

Russian climate envoy Anatoly Chubais has stepped down and left the country, citing his opposition to President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the situation, becoming the highest-level official to break with the Kremlin over the invasion.

Chubais, 66, is one of the few 1990s-era economic reformers who’d remained in Putin’s government and had maintained close ties with Western officials. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

Known as the architect of Russia’s 1990s privatizations, Chubais gave Putin his first Kremlin job in the mid-1990s and initially welcomed his rise to power at the end of that decade. Under Putin, Chubais took top jobs at big state companies until the president named him envoy for sustainable development last year.

Chubais announced his resignation in a letter to colleagues and friends Tuesday, according to people who saw it. Last week, he hinted at a darkened outlook, saying in a post on Facebook on the anniversary of the death of Yegor Gaidar that the fellow economic reformer “understood the strategic risks better than I did and I was wrong.”

In his 2006 book, “Death of Empire,” Gaidar warned of the temptations of imperial nostalgia for the Soviet Union he saw growing under Putin. “It’s not difficult to convince society that a state that collapsed so suddenly can be just as quickly rebuilt,” he wrote. “That’s an illusion, a dangerous one.”

Since the war, the government has stepped up pressure on domestic critics of the invasion. Putin warned on March 16 that he would cleanse Russia of the “scum and traitors” he accuses of working covertly for the U.S. and its allies. Facing economic meltdown, the Russian leader accused the West of wanting to destroy Russia.

“Any people, and particularly the Russian people, will always be able to tell the patriots from the scum and traitors and spit them out like a midge that accidentally flew into their mouths,” Putin said. “I am convinced that this natural and necessary self-cleansing of society will only strengthen our country, our solidarity, cohesion and readiness to meet any challenge.”

Last week, Arkady Dvorkovich, who was senior economic adviser to Dmitry Medvedev during his presidency and a deputy prime minister until 2018, stepped down as head of the state-backed Skolkovo technology fund after condemning the invasion. Dvorkovich, who’s also president of the International Chess Federation, is one of only a few former senior officials to speak out against the war.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...quits-over-ukraine-war-and-leaves-russia

U.S. announces new Russian sanctions, plans to admit thousands of Ukrainian refugees

The news came as President Joe Biden met with key allies in Brussels, while the biggest European conflict since World War II entered its second month.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/biden-...Edu6XjHRVZzBvTu8JPTgNQNDpiKYrQBv3NQPBUII

Tucker Carlson Surprises No One By Parroting New Russian Conspiracy Theory

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carlson-surprises-no-one-071955141.html

Arch is about to be all over this one!!! Hunter is part of the deep state!! He’s been funding bio labs in Ukraine this whole time!!

Hannity presses Tulsi Gabbard on her opposition to Ukraine aid: 'You’re ducking'

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...ukraine-aid-youre-ducking-072522088.html

Ahh, I remember a time not too long ago when a few posters on this board were trying to hype this lady up. Then I got roasted for calling her soft and not qualified.

Where’s all those tulsi simps been lately? I miss you guys. Imagine Hannity being the voice of reason. We really have entered the twilight zone.

I’m glad Hannity did that. That type of relentlessness on the topic needs to come from someone like him.