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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Literally!


I literally spit the pizza I was having for lunch out of my mouth!

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Deshaun: "I don't have a problem"

Rut-roh


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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on 22 lawsuits: "I can't control that"

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There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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Ah denial. The cure all for the delusional. Anyone else think RED FLAG right away? LOL


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I'm still clinging to the hope that he has to stick to those lines because of the pending stuff.


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Originally Posted by Milk Man

It's factual that he saw 0ver 40 different massage therapists - I think that is over a 12 month span - leaving out the issue of consensual or otherwise, he was doing it for or expecting/paying for sexual favors. That's basically without question.

I find it troubling he says he has no problem or issue and does not need counselling. Now maybe that's a public statement because to say otherwise might have legal ramifications with the NFL and with the 22 civil cases ... but it may also play against him with the NFL.


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Originally Posted by Milk Man

Sorry - not gonna buy that one EVER.


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Originally Posted by Milk Man

This statement and Watson's statement are at odds with each other.


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But he can't.


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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
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Literally!


I literally spit the pizza I was having for lunch out of my mouth!

Lmfao stooopppp


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Originally Posted by mgh888
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This statement and Watson's statement are at odds with each other.


Berry's comment was about community perception. I don't think it was in reference to Watson needing help.


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Originally Posted by Milk Man
j/c...


More statements that are at odds with what happened ... all of the teams involved started the pursuit of Watson AFTER the criminal case was essentially resolved by the GJ ... and you'll have to convince me that seeking out both sides of a story is considered interfering. I call Baloney.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Berry's comment was about community perception. I don't think it was in reference to Watson needing help.

Are you saying that based on watching and listening live? Or based on the content of the tweet... I mean, reading the tweet and twisting it in my head, it might mean what you say but I think that is not the way it reads. He's talking first person Watson, says work is still needed and then reafirms the subject is Watson. First part is Watson by name, last bit is Watson by name - you'd have to take an enormous leap of faith to think the middle bit wasn't about Watson.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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But he can't.

I'm posting shorthand of the conversation. The context was such that "what would you do differently", and that's how he answered. Even if everything went down exactly like his defense lawyer laid out, there's still at least some bit of "lessons learned" for Watson. Saying that he had zero control of the situation is... worrisome.


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Originally Posted by Milk Man


It was this part, and two other parts that had me smacking my head. It's not a good look, but I'm not really sure how you can admit to needing to improve/do more/do things differently without throwing chum in the water.


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Originally Posted by mgh888
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Berry's comment was about community perception. I don't think it was in reference to Watson needing help.

Are you saying that based on watching and listening live? Or based on the content of the tweet... I mean, reading the tweet and twisting it in my head, it might mean what you say but I think that is not the way it reads. He's talking first person Watson, says work is still needed and then reafirms the subject is Watson. First part is Watson by name, last bit is Watson by name - you'd have to take an enormous leap of faith to think the middle bit wasn't about Watson.

Peen is correct, Berry was about perception in the community. As for the response of Watson saying he does not need to see a therapist, that was in direct response to MKC question asking him if he has a sex problem and needs to seek help.

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
They will tar and feather her. They will call her a liar because there's no eye witness. They will attack her character and banish her from the city of Cleveland.
Woah, easy there chief. This is Deshaun Watson, not Bill Clinton. How many of the women who are current accusers have received this kind of treatment in Houston or in Cleveland or anywhere? I'm not saying you can't find some random examples of people being stupid but is there any kind of a mass movement to destroy these women? If so, I haven't seen any evidence of it.


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Originally Posted by oobernoober
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But he can't.

I'm posting shorthand of the conversation. The context was such that "what would you do differently", and that's how he answered. Even if everything went down exactly like his defense lawyer laid out, there's still at least some bit of "lessons learned" for Watson. Saying that he had zero control of the situation is... worrisome.

I understand the sentiment, but if he's maintaining his innocence and taking a strong position that you did nothing wrong and have 22 civil cases still pending, what can he really say other than what he said?

Saying anything other could come across as blaming the alleged victims.

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Originally Posted by mgh888
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More statements that are at odds with what happened ... all of the teams involved started the pursuit of Watson AFTER the criminal case was essentially resolved by the GJ ... and you'll have to convince me that seeking out both sides of a story is considered interfering. I call Baloney.

Call it what you want. A claimant attorney might call it witness tampering. You are best served to stay away from your baloney.

Just saying...


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Originally Posted by mgh888
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Berry's comment was about community perception. I don't think it was in reference to Watson needing help.

Are you saying that based on watching and listening live? Or based on the content of the tweet... I mean, reading the tweet and twisting it in my head, it might mean what you say but I think that is not the way it reads. He's talking first person Watson, says work is still needed and then reafirms the subject is Watson. First part is Watson by name, last bit is Watson by name - you'd have to take an enormous leap of faith to think the middle bit wasn't about Watson.


I watched. Either way, it isn't a point worth squabbling about.


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Are people really surprised he isn’t saying much due to the civil cases still being active?

And I dunno why anybody is surprised that he is maintaining his innocence.


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I agree. I think it went pretty much as I expected. I don't know what some people were expecting.

All the answers from all involved sound genuine enough to me.

I have always wondered why reporters keep asking the same questions? It must be they only prepared 2 questions, feeling they would be the first reported to ask a question.

If I was the one answering, I would say "I have already answered that question....next"


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The Haslams not being there is a horrible look.

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Originally Posted by cfrs15
The Haslams not being there is a horrible look.

They're the biggest losers from today's press conference.


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Originally Posted by cfrs15
The Haslams not being there is a horrible look.

I don't think so. Not being at the owners meeting would be a horrible look. They will meet the press in a hour or so.


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Peen...what the helll happened to that ZOOM call you claimed the Haslams were going to use to participate in Watson's news conference..?

Just another claim in an attempt that turns out to be completely false as some stoop to any low in an attempt to make the Haslams look like stand up folks that can be trusted...right?

How telling is it when the one person most responsible for this newest Browns mess refuses to even be seen with Watson on his introduction day...sad.

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Berry not saying Watson was innocent at the end was pretty sketchy.

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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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The Haslams not being there is a horrible look.

I don't think so. Not being at the owners meeting would be a horrible look. They will meet the press in a hour or so.

If they can’t be there then the press conference needs to wait. They used Berry as a meat shield.

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