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The NFL owners meeting begins on 3/27 and runs through 3/30.

Owners meetings are March 27-30, and they do own a jet.

It didn't bother me. Berry can't know definitively so why make the statement other than what he did?

I agree he was just maintaining his innocence. However, I'm surprised he didn't do it more tactfully. "I don't regret my actions as I didn't do what was alleged, but I do regret the effect this situation has had on real victims of sexual misconduct," or something along those lines would have gone over better. He needs a better PR consultant or at least to do a better job of implementing one's plan.

I was all for him fighting it out in court if he was innocent. Now I'm thinking settling is the way to go. Not based on his presumed guilt or innocence, but in how he is perceived on the stand. I could definitely see a jury finding the accusers more sympathetic.

No one will remember the Haslams weren't there a week from now.

You're the one who used the word pertinent, not me.

Why should he regret doing nothing wrong? He was not charged. These women tried to extort money out of him for a consensual act. So he and his lawyer encouraged them to file a police report. He would not discuss $$$ with them. Coincidentally, Jane Doe #3 from the original police report already stated she lied. He also has 18 other women that gave him a massage say he always acted professionally with them. Again, he was accused, not found guilty. You do not have to regret any actions when you do nothing wrong.

Here we go!

Dee and Jimmy look like the Seinfeld's down at their condo in Del Boca Vista.

Jimmy drinking his beer as usual

It's also irritating that what seem like normal people can't understand that 22 accusers is overwhelming and how quickly they will try to dismiss that. I guess we all have our own version of what's frustrating.

We got very comfortable with DeShaun Watson the person. Hmmmm.

Asked and answered.

Jet setters!

Dee had to save Jimmy from himself.

Then you say this.....


You do realize you just stuck up for watson by trying to place the blame on the accusers, right? The very thing you claimed you weren't doing. I've got news for you. We have a poster that is a female licensed massage therapist. If you would like to know who it is PM me. Then maybe you would like to explain this to her.

j/c...

Jimmy is in promotion mode and Dee is in damage control mode. They are tag teaming the fan base.

Jimmy keeps revisiting how much time they put in. I get why he's saying it, but for fans who hate the move, he's saying they spent a lot of time getting comfortable in their own skin, while just shoving it up fans butts with almost zero notice. Just saying there are two side of that perspective.

I have seen the press conference.

DeShaun Watson did ok except for the “having no regrets” part. Who advice him to such a idiotic answer? He seems genuine but I can clearly see why he is accused by these 22 women. He seems like a intelligent and nice guy but maybe early fame and success made him a little bit arrogant and “above” how you normally interact with women. In the sense that he’s probably just not used to being rejected. My advice would be to settle these cases with compensations. Being part of a long legal battle helps nobody.

Andrew Berry looked really uncomfortable. His voice was low, almost whispering and without his normal confidence. His eyes wasn’t steady and his body language was defensive. He didn’t sat straight with his back and his head was hangin. For me body language says a lot more then rehearsed answers. Berry is a professional GM so there is no excuses.

My general conclusion from listening to a Berry is that he didn’t answered one single question directly, most of it was general standpoints saying everything and nothing. By far his worst public appearance I can remember.

Stefanski was just a side kick that nobody was really interested in. Looked like a teacher who was just happy to be there. Maybe that’s his level.

As usual the local media was looking for sensational headlines. Using “attacking” questions will never create open and honest answers. Nobody opens up when the atmosphere is a little bit hostile.

Weird. I thought the local media did an excellent job asking tough, direct questions as they should have done.

Im glad you brought up the body language. The weird part for me was how quietly Berry was speaking. He generally doesn't give much in the way of info to reporters (and he even explicitly made an exception and talked about some contract details), but you can also usually hear him speak.

The other weird thing was that they never looked at Watson when they were speaking about/to him. That seemed weird to me.

The spin is continually ongoing. I mean read the thread for examples. Look at the media. For all of those claiming it's one sided, many are trying to make it look as though watson is the good guy and these women have character flaws. Was my comment hyperbole? It certainly was. But at the same time there's a kernel of truth to it. People often have kinder, gentler way of undermining people. That doesn't change what they're doing. And no, deshawn isn't Bill Clinton. Even Clinton didn't have this many accusers. But Trump does. There's even audio of his behavior and proof he paid off a porn star. It just goes to show that people's priorities aren't half as important to them as they claim they are. That, or their priorities aren't in the order they professed them to be.

Call it what you want, but they answered the questions. Some people have already made their minds up. Many here don't like the Haslams and will never give them the benefit of doubt. Many have drawn their own conclusions about Watson, and will never change their opinion. That's just the way of the world.

Those who don't like it, will continue to throw what ever spin they can come up with to bend the narrative their way. And those who feel otherwise will do the same. The only problem I have, is on these boards, many tend to attack those who disagree. There are a few, who thrive on forcing their opinion on others. It really has brought the quality of this board way down.

As for your comment, it is more than apparent, that your mind is made up that no matter what is said, or evidence is presented, you will never change your mind. That's okay, it's your right, but it doesn't necessarily mean you are right or wrong. But, as you expect others mto respect your opinion, you should also do the same.

Yet many of us were fans no matter what right up until this happened. And if you want to talk about spin, stop acting like those supporting watson aren't doing the same thing. So all of you're "they hate Haslam" BS doesn't fly. If that were the reason we wouldn't have been supporting this team right up until they traded for watson.

It's a weird situation, especially with ongoing legal proceedings (even if civil rather than criminal.) There's probably a lot that they want to say but can't because of "lawyers." There's a reason that teams usually go with some variation of "no comment" when talking about legal situations.

There's also the whole dealing with almost entirely "hostile" questions for an event that is usually a victory lap. Who would be entirely comfortable in that environment?

I said after. I can't help it you don't know what you are doing.

Go take a hike. I didn't do any such thing. I was turning things on a comment Oober said. I don't need to PM you for squat. I know who she is, she is a friend of mine. I talked to her when she went to school. We both like astronomy and aquariums. You know her from Taggerts.

I had no idea you could know and like someone that way and then throw this much shade on their chosen profession. I learn something new every day.


Sad, just sad.

It is sad. Sad you don't understand what was said.

Do you have any comment on the second jury filing no charges against Watson either?

So far he's not guilty of anything.

I've yet to see any evidence.

As someone that, in general and as a rule, always expects the worst from Cleveland local media, I thought they did a pretty good job with asking direct-yet-not-sensational questions. They generally seemed to be asking the right questions and not pulling punches.