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Here's the lowdown... OK, as many of you are aware, I'm having some girl "issues", well I got rid of my girlfriend today... But, the thing is. I wanna ask this one girl out, but I've never asked anyone out, I've always been on the receiving end. I'm usually the one who just says yes or no.  Needless, to say, I'm nervous. I like her, I've liked even when I was going out with other people. The trouble is, I don't know if she likes me or not. I know you guys have been through this, because your all older than me. Any suggestions? Note: I typed this post listening to Ozzie Osbourne's "Dreamer".. 
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You only live once dude, If you like her, ask her out.
you had a good run Hank.
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I do have her phone #... I don't know if I wanna ask her in person or through the phone.. Which ever is the less nerve racking.
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Sorry, I'll be no help. Haven't asked a girl out since JFK was president. 
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*puts arm around BrowniePoints in manly, male bonding, straight fashion*
Brownie...here's some advice.
Don't be nervous...and whatever you do, DO NOT OVERCOMPLIMENT.
It's called backhanded complimenting. Make her feel like she can't get you. I'll give you an example of something that worked for me...
It was the night of an Indians playoff game, I was at the local bar having a few brews with my bros when my friend's friend's girlfriend's friends (If you're following that) walked in. They sat at our table/cheering section for the game. One of them was sitting next to me. So I went into what's known as a "set."
I don't remember exactly what i said, but I do know the details of the main part.
Me: "Good game, huh."
Her: "Yeah really."
Me: "You friends with (girl's name?)"
Her: "Yeah, do you know (guy I don't know)."
Me: "No, but I see that you're an Indians fan...are you a Browns fan too?"
Her: "No...I'm a Steelers fan."
***THIS IS THE BIG PART!!!!! DO NOT OPENLY TRASH HER, AND DO NOT SAY "Oh that's cool too." YOU NEED TO RUN WITH IT! SHE GAVE YOU A CHANCE TO CUT HER DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.***
Me: *WITH A SMILE ON MY FACE THE WHOLE TIME SO SHE KNOWS I'M JOKING* "Ok well I guess this conversation's over, you're a Steelers fan."
Her: "No this conversation is NOT over, I'm an Indians and a Cavs fan too, see my dad's from Pittsburgh and my mom's from Cleveland I don't live in Cleveland soooo..."
***SHE FELL INTO MY "TRAP." BECAUSE SHE FEELS CUT DOWN, SHE IS QUALIFYING HERSELF TO ME. I KNOW I HAVE A HIGH PERCENTAGE CHANCE AT THIS POINT SO I JUST LET IT GO TO CASUAL CONVERSATION AND SHOW THE REAL ME***
We ended up exchanging numbers, and now we're in the "hanging out" stage (which in college is a bit different than in middle school). Really cool girl.
And that's how to pick up chicks.
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Send her a nice present to show you are truly interested in her, like Glow in the Dark Condoms. 
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Dude just ask her, it's middle school so you can even do it over the phone. Worst thing happens, she says no, some girl feels bad for you and then you ask her out. 
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Dude just ask her, it's middle school so you can even do it over the phone. Worst thing happens, she says no, some girl feels bad for you and then you ask her out.
Indeed, but if you are going to do it, be a man about it. Ask her in person because she'll have a much more difficult time saying no...I know from experience 
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Well asking in person does increase the chances especially if you get them a nice little candy box or chocolates or whatever, but from his post he said he's too nervous to do that so that's why I suggested the phone if he can't get the courage to do it face to face(by far the best and classiest way IMO)
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BP.. strange as his advice may sound, Ammo's advice is spot on. Of course, he didn't put it in terms that you can relate to...he is talking about a girl he hasn't known, who he is talking to at a bar but the principle is an important fact of human nature...we all want what we cant have. In terms of a young girl who you already, (it sounds like are friends with) apply it this way. In person say something along of the lines of "you know (Lyndsay) (some compliment) and I ve sometimes wondered if you'd be worth dating? But then I kind of figured you were (some cut down), tell you what you work that and get back to me. My point BP, isnt that you have to give a scripted pick up line to win this girl over, simply always talk to her with confidence, let her know that you notice things about her ( compliment) but let her also now that you are above her, cut her down. The point is everyone likes compliments and likes what they can't have. Work that mojo, little man 
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BrowniePoints,
Maybe a 57 year old guy isn't the right person to advise you about dating skills...especially since I haven't asked a gal out since 1972.
But...if I had never asked anyone out and had never been turned down, I'd expect the odds to fail you soon. Rather than have a young gal blow you off...I really should have chosen those words better...why not ask the HOT YOUNG BLONDE TEACHER OUT?
That way when she turns you down at least you had the guts to try. When the other kids her about your move you will have a lot of admirers....and if she didn't turn you down...prepare yourself for an enjoyable time.
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Points...
Can you get a casual friend to "scope the interest level on the down low" for you? You know what I'm talking about - a buddy who might know her friends and who's stealth enough to slide in the BrowniePoints name, and see what kind of a reaction it gets.
You can always go the "go after the friend" route. If you are who you claim to be - the "guy who says yes or no" - try casually --- and I mean casually even talking to a friend of hers. Women - even at your age are catty - you'll know in an instant if the jealously in your main attraction pops out. If so, then go after the prize my little buddy...
Then again Points, I've just done 17-18 beers at the bar, so take the advice with a grain of salt...
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Just gotta do it. If she says no, so be it. I have no clue how old you are, but at a certain point you become unphased by the word no from a woman's mouth 
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I know it's nerveracking, but it isn't any harder than breaking up with a girl. I say just do it.
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The fact that you are asking for dating advice on a Browns message board tells me are doomed. However, ask her out in person and hope for the best. Asking someone out over the phone is lame and cowardly. A good woman likes a confident man.
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Then again Points, I've just done 17-18 beers at the bar, so take the advice with a grain of salt...
I laughed out loud, beerdowner.
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I do have her phone #...
I don't know if I wanna ask her in person or through the phone..
Which ever is the less nerve racking.
Dude if its meant to be its meant to be, you dont have to ask her right away, but dont feel pressured and nervous, if you get a vibe go with it... Don't rush it if you don't have a feeling on whether or not she likes you.
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Don't listen to any of these goobers. If they knew anything about girls they wouldn't be posting on a friday night. I have the only advice you will ever need, and it comes from someone who has been married for 18 years... Become a monk. Life will be easier and much less complicated, trust me. 
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Asking someone out over the phone is lame and cowardly. A good woman likes a confident man.
WTH? BrowniePoints is only what, 14 or 15 years old? There is nothing cowardly or wrong with asking her on the phone.
Brownie, just do what all teenagers do.....ask her out in a text message. 
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Yes, just shut up and do it, but ignore the advice Ammo gave you. Just be YOURSELF, if she doesn't like you for well..... you. Then you don't need to waste your time on her anyway.
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I agree with gm.....there is no need to play games....just be straight. You haven't mentioned how well you know this girl...have you had any real conversations with her yet? Have you hung around with her at all? In any classes together? If so, it will make it easier for you to break the ice. If not, then I would suggest that you spend some time talking to her first. Ask her if you can call her, instead of just jumping in and asking her out. Oh, and once you do ask her out, don't be vague with the question - don't say "so, do you wanna do something sometime?" Instead, be specific on the date and location, i.e. "wanna hang out at the mall on Saturday?" If she shoots you down, big deal...you will be rejected dozens of times in your lifetime, might as well get used to it now. Good luck!
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Hey Brownie, take GM's and Chris's advice, it sounds pretty good to me 
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If he wants a normal sex life, thousands is more like it.
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Yes, just shut up and do it, but ignore the advice Ammo gave you. Just be YOURSELF, if she doesn't like you for well..... you. Then you don't need to waste your time on her anyway.
It IS about being yourself, no doubt in my mind about that one. But there's a gap you need to bridge in order to get that person to want to see the real you. Playing hard to get is one of the keys. Making her laugh. Showing her that you're confident.
I didn't believe in this method until I actually tried it and it worked. It sounded fishy to me but it works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_Method
In elementary school/early middle school I was one of the "fat kids" I guess you could say. While that was so early on in life, it screwed me up all the way through high school when it came to meeting girls. Girls loved me but only on that friend level cuz in middle school I wanted a girlfriend terribly, and that stigma largely stuck with me through high school.
Enter college. A totally different atmosphere with a fresh start and it showed, but my confidence wasn't nearly what it should be. One day it was like a light went on and everything just started clicking for me. So one day I was poking around the internet and I found the "method of seduction." Turns out it was basically everything that I was doing unconsciously, but I learned I could perfect my formula.
Do what YOU'RE comfortable doing. You have to make sure they know the real you, no question in my mind. Sometimes it just takes a bit of skill to make a woman buy into that, despite what they'll tell you. I've learned the hard way they don't want "sweet and sensitive guys." (at least at this age)
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LOL! I was married once too! 
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Actually he should be studying for his finals.......  BrowniePoints- Don't play games with the girl as previously suggested....you don't need to trap her, set her up, etc. Talk to her and find a common interest and go with that....
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I have the only advice you will ever need, and it comes from someone who has been married for 18 years... Become a monk. Life will be easier and much less complicated, trust me.
How true this is.
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Brownie, just do what all teenagers do.....ask her out in a text message.
Hey, it worked for my older brother and they have been going out since 2nd year in high school. He is a freshman in College right now.
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Oh to be young again and this be the major problem in your life.
Just ask her out in person and if she says no,just tell her you didn't really want to go out but your buddies bet you 20 bucks you wouldn't do it.
If she says yes,your problem is solved.
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Thanks for the responses. I might give her a call after the Buckeyes and Bulls games today.
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You can always go the "go after the friend" route. If you are who you claim to be - the "guy who says yes or no" - try casually --- and I mean casually even talking to a friend of hers. Women - even at your age are catty - you'll know in an instant if the jealously in your main attraction pops out. If so, then go after the prize my little buddy...
Those 17-18 beers must have been really good, because I'm going to try this. I'm friends with one of her girlfriends.
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Just remember Brownie, Women will put up with anything, but if something better comes along they will cut you with a chainsaw and walk away never looking back.
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I do have her phone #...
I don't know if I wanna ask her in person or through the phone..
Which ever is the less nerve racking.
DO NOT DO IT BY PHONE. Most women like romantic stuff and asking her out over the phone is pretty un-romantic and that alone would show her that you lack confidence in yourself. One of the #1 things that women look for in a guy is Confidence. Its human nature really for women to look for that quality. Show that your fearless, knock on her front door with flower in hand and ask her out on a date. And if she says "No" than don't be all emotional, just say well these flowers are for you, take care and leave. Less is more in that situation. Good luck.
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Just remember Brownie, Women will put up with anything, but if something better comes along they will cut you with a chainsaw and walk away never looking back.
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No, there's nothing wrong with asking her on the phone. Guys do it all the time. It doesn't show lack of confidence at all. I don't know where you got that notion.
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I agree. No issue with him asking a girl out over the phone. I garnered several dates in high school from boys that asked me over the phone.
Hell, I've garnered a few dates as an adult from guys asking me over the phone. And I sure as hell wouldn't call any of them wusses or wimps for doing so. Hell, I married one of them.
BP: Ignore all the crap that these guys are saying about playing ANY type of game (hard to get etc) If she's a smart girl, it won't work and in fact, will turn her away from you. Be yourself, show a sense of humor (I'm sure you have one), be as confident as possible and ask her out. Good luck!
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Just ask her. Every guy that has responded will tell you, "If I'd only known then what I know now..."
Well, what we all know now is that there is no shame in a girl saying no... and if you don't ask, there is a 100% chance she can't say yes. Do you know how many times after high school, after college, once I was settled into a relationship that I had girls tell me at reunions and homecomings that they sort of had a crush on me in school?... and these were girls I would have gladly gone out with but never asked.... because they didn't "seem" interested...
The other thing I've learned is that girls are just as nervous as guys are about asking out/being asked out... and girls try just as hard as guys to do the "cool" aloof, not interested, thing...
So suck it up and ask her out. Be polite, be honest, be direct.....
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