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the defense will be at best 15 level defense
the draft is the weakest in the afc north you could not trade are entire draft for anyone of there first overall picks
round 2 there was another pick there that could have delivered a superbowl he had 1st over all athleticism .
Deshaun we traded 3 first round picks for a qb that has 90 qb rating in the playoffs and has a average margin of defeat per game of 17 points.
go ahead critisize my typing but as far as this draft goes it is a
F

I don't see any way it is an F, and I am pretty objective about things. I think your expectations on drafting players is a bit high.

In so many years the Browns drafted rookies to come in as starters... No one for them to sit a year or two behind and learn from.

This is the first time in years I can remember the Browns draft back up type players who can give lots of competition to be starters .

This is a good thing, it means there are good starters and having a good back up is really good !

Good teams don't need first round talent, They already have it !

Imo, this has been my favorite draft since 99.

AB is kind of known for finding that mid round talent.. I believe he did very well, time will tell.

I'm excited !

I definitely see the potential for an F. Hopefully, optimistically it works out better.

For Browns love sake, I can say, I'm struggling to name a player from the 2022 draft I like better than Demetric Felton on offense, and a player I like more better than Tony Fields II on defense, and those were both late round Browns' draft picks from 2021.

There is definitely the potential that some of the picks from this year could work out, optimistically, hopefully a lot.

I'm still not comfortable with our D line. We lost three starters in Jackson, McDowell, and Clowney. Jordan Elliot has only three starts. Both Taven Bryan and Chase Winovich have spoty starting history's.
Even if we get Clowney back I'd like us to grab a decent DT if there are any good ones left.

Hicks, formerly of the Chicago Bears would be a great pickup for the dline.

I'm just curious, who are all of these great mid round talents Berry is known for finding? I understand fans wishing to be optimistic but one of the big complaints I've seen on this board has been the lack of ability to develop mid round talent. I do think there are some players that the jury is still out on.

2020

Round 3, pick 88: Jordan Elliott, DT, Missouri
Round 3, pick 97: Jacob Phillips, LB, LSU
Round 4, pick 115: Harrison Bryant, TE, Florida Atlantic
Round 5, pick 160: Nick Harris, C, Washington
Round 6, pick 187: Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR, Michigan

The 2021 class is still leaving a lot to desire by comparison, but there is still Togiai, LeCounte, Hudson, Felton. I'm leaving Schwartz and Fields off that as they're not showing to be much.


That's not a bad track record right there, though. You have more than a handful of starters on a good roster coming from Day 2 and Day 3 picks.

jc….

Anyone hear any updates on McDowell’s legal issues? Is he completely out of play for coming back?
So much upside… so many mental health issues… is the balance still there enough to give another chance?

I haven't heard anything. Based on this past incident and the one where he went berserk in college, I'd say he is pretty much done.

I hope the guy is under medical supervision for his own good and the safety of others.

That's really not a bad list at all.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/browns-malik-mcdowell-will-not-be-tendered/

''The Browns will not tender McDowell as an exclusive-rights free agent because of an arrest in January, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
McDowell was arrested on three charges in Florida, which triggered Cleveland's decision to move on from the 25-year-old defensive tackle. The Browns began to revamp the interior of their defensive line when they agreed to terms with Taven Bryan. McDowell and Malik Jackson served as the starting defensive tackles in 2021, but neither is expected to return this coming season.''

Thanks for the info, Cleats.

Yup. I don't know if he's hitting home runs there, but he's definitely hitting singles and doubles pretty consistently.

You win baseball with base hits.

First off I never said great, I said finding mid round talent, to answer your question Pit it would be ..

Rnd 4 pick 110 Hudson

Rnd 4 pick 132 Togiai

Rnd 5 pick 153 Fields

Rnd 5 pick 169 LeCounte

Rnd 6 pick 211 Felton

Shwartz was a 3rd rounder at pick 91 that one is still a question, the others contributed.

Seems to me like most of Berry's picks have been good, except for his 3rd round picks:

Schwartz
Jordan Elliott
Jacob Phillips

You'd like a little more production out of your 3rd round picks. Hopefully that doesn't carry over into this year's picks, though I didn't like them much (I did like the Bell pick though).

All the other rounds, I feel like he's done a pretty good job finding talent.

If the price of him hitting on his 1st, 2nd, and 4th thru 7th round picks is that he completely whiffs on his 3rd rounders, I'll take it.

Think about the baseballs' love of stats; think "slugging percentage" here as well. We are on base much more with some of Berry's body of work.

As Savage said, homeruns are great, but singles and doubles are good as well.

Too bad he didn't get many of those either.

This draft is growing on me. A lot of these guys, Winfrey, Thomas, Bell etc. seem very intriguing and wee great picks where we got them. I love the York pick. The one I can’t get my head around is the cornerback with our first pick. Don’t understand going CB and that particular guy seemed like a reach. Berry is a lot better at than I am, but am I missing something?

I think they drafted Emerson to defend against stronger TEs like Kelce and Kittle. He can play press-corner on bigger receiver-type tight ends.

If you are playing a 4-2-5, you have corners covering two receivers and a tight end.

I do know it is difficult finding press-cover corners. Even though Emerson is not fast he is good at covering the big "slower" receivers.

I can say I would have made a different pick. It is obvious Berry is seeing this differently. It is hard arguing against the picks. Everyone has their favorites. I guess time will tell who is right.

No doubt time will tell.

I trust that Woods and Stefanski will work the different combinations and settle in on the combinations that works the best.

Interesting take. I had not before heard the angle of Emerson covering TE's...but it makes sense.

He does seem to be more of a safety than a corner at this level.

Yeah, we run a lot of zone coverages. Cover 3 and Quarters seem to be the most prevalent.

Yeah, I was venting some what, because I have seen quite a few post Draft presentations ... who think that the Emerson selection means that we will become a press man team ... but we could have done that with the players we have already if we where going to do that, and I think (and disagree w/ them) he will be a better zone CB then he would be in a predominantly press man coverage scheme, depending on who is is being asked to cover.

I agree w/you about us already having Ward and Greedy, who are suited to play press-man. I didn't mention Newsome because I haven't watched him closely enough to know, but maybe he is good at it, too? Just not sure.

Press-man can be effective, but NFL OC's will destroy it if you run it too much of the time. Mixing up coverages is essential in making the QB make the correct pre-snap reads, forcing QBs and receivers to make sight adjustments and hot reads, and slowing down a QB's progressions. Something we are seeing more and more of in the NFL are teams who are playing mixed coverages. For example, playing Cover 2, which is playing Cover 4 on one side and Cover 2 on the other side. I really think forcing a QB to take more time to recognize the Coverages is a huge key into stopping an offense.

Here is a simple, easy to understand, example of what I am talking about.

I was typing fast........see the part where I said, "For example, playing Cover 2, ..." That should have read as "Cover 6." You can see what I wrote afterwards how it makes sense. Cover 4 on one side and Cover 2 on the other. I really apologize if I confused anyone. Sorry.

Just to note 100% of the Browns drafted players in 2022 appear to be 100% biological, with no bionic parts yet! I wonder if that will always be the case.