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In the pass game, Ford made 21 catches for 220 yards and scored one touchdown.
Ford has experience being effective in the pass game going back to his days at Armwood High School in Mango, Fla., where he played slot receiver

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/20...i-with-pick-no-156-in-the-nfl-draft.html


Sound like he is supposed to be good in the passing game but 21 for 220 doesn;'t seem so impressive


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Jerome Ford, RB, Cincinnati: NFL Draft 2022 scouting report
Updated: Apr. 30, 2022, 4:15 p.m. | Published: Apr. 30, 2022, 2:50 p.m.

By Scott Patsko, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio – The Browns selected Cincinnati running back Jerome Ford in Saturday’s fifth round of the NFL Draft. Here’s a scouting report on Ford.

Height, weight: 5-foot-10, 210 pounds.

Year: Redshirt-junior.

Stats: Ford played two seasons at Cincinnati and last season was his best. He rushed for 1,319 yards (6.2 average) and 19 touchdowns. He also caught 21 passes for 220 yards. In two seasons at Alabama, he rushed for only 151 yards and three touchdowns.

Combine results: Ran a 4.46 in the 40-yard dash (ranked 12th among RBs). His vertical (31 inches) and broad jumps (9-10) were not among positional leaders.

Pro Football Focus grades: 89.4 rushing; 68.8 receiving; 78.1 zone rushing; 78.1 gap rushing.


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What draft analysts say about Ford:

PFF: “Ford started his career off at Alabama and struggled to even see the football field behind the likes of Najee Harris and Brian Robinson. After two seasons there, he transferred to Cincinnati. In 2020, he was the dash to Gerrid Doaks’ smash in a time-share. In 2021, Ford took over as the lead dog and flourished. The worry was his boom-or-bust nature with four games this past season where he averaged under 4.0 yards per carry.”

Dane Brugler, The Athletic: “A one-year starter at Cincinnati, Ford became the Bearcats’ lead back as a junior in former offensive coordinator Mike Denbrock’s spread RPO offense. The Alabama transfer was a key reason behind Cincinnati’s run to the 2021 College Football Playoffs, leading the AAC in rushing and matching the school record for rushing touchdowns (19) in a season. Ford has the lateral footwork and body strength to keep plays alive, flashing the open-field juice to gash defenses (averaged 6.1 yards per carry in his career). However, his vision and patience lack consistency, and he needs to improve his ball security and blocking to maintain the trust of his coaches. Overall, Ford has room to improve his eyes and timing at the line of scrimmage to be more of a creator, but he has an effective blend of size, strength and speed with upside catching the football. He can provide a punch to an NFL team’s depth chart.”

Lance Zierlein, NFL.com: “Well-built back with NFL size and athletic ability but the vision and creativity are just OK. Ford lacks the desired instincts and recognition of run-lane development, but he’s fast, strong and athletic. He has the tools to find yards with those traits. He’s a talented, explosive option out of the backfield with soft hands and the speed to mismatch linebackers out in space. The pieces aren’t all in place, but Ford could have a future as a change-of-pace slasher with third-down value.”

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/20...nati-nfl-draft-2022-scouting-report.html


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I don't care much for RBs w/poor vision. But, he'll be 3rd on the depth chart at best. Not sure of where he was "slotted," but I question the value of this pick.

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I am not sure Felton is a lock to make the roster.

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Originally Posted by cfrs15
I am not sure Felton is a lock to make the roster.
Didnt they say today that he was strictly going to be practicing as a RB this year … don’t know if that’s a good thing or bad thing for him


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I would like to revisit the "vision" comment I made a few posts ago. I know this will probably upset some people because I am referencing I played the position, but I think it is relevant to this topic. I really try to not reference my playing days as a reference on player evaluations or coaching decisions. For the latter two areas, I use my coaching experience and brief scouting background as my knowledge points.

However, when it comes to dealing w/injuries, positional competition, instincts, vision, speed, power, importance of OL, etc, etc......>I will speak about the RB position.

Vision is so huge. You can be effective w/speed, elusiveness, power, one-cut ability, etc.......but, if you have bad vision, you are probably not going to be all that. Some may remember when most of the board was upset w/me because I said that TRich had terrible vision. The dude would run into tacklers instead of making the proper read. That was masked in college because Alabama's OL dominated other teams. TRich was exposed in the big leagues.

I was probably most like Walter Payton in terms of a RB, except if he was 100% , I was maybe 20% in terms of ability. I was blessed w/natural speed. Could outrun everyone in high school. Had big thighs, small ankles, high arches, not a big upper body. Very similar to guys like Walter, Berry, LT, etc in body type. It's just that those guys were far superior to me in talent.

I don't bring that up to brag. It's about understanding the game. I remember watching a piece on a television network way back in the day about Walter Payton. They had this segment in it about playing the drums and how Walter ran to the beat of the drums. And how he reacted to the defenders and ran on pure instinct based on what he saw. It was one of the most awesome clips I have ever witnessed. It clicked w/me. It might have---or may not have been--the piece they did when they used Carly Simon's song entitled "Nobody Does it Better." Dawgs, I loved Carly.

Anyway, Walter said he ran w/a beat in his head. He saw the field [vision] and was able to decide to run around or through defenders. That was my game. Quick twitch w/great vision.

Bottom line.............beware of dudes w/out great vision. On the plus side, we have a great OL.

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A couple of more tidbits on RBs.

Your OL is so important. I killed it in high school in a large part because my OL was so good. My freshman year in college was another story. LOL...I did not produce at the anticipated level. The next year, the guys gained experience and we brought in two new guys that were good. They made me so much better. I used to take them out to eat and drink every Friday even though I was poor.

This is also very important. We ran a zone blocking scheme in high school and it superior to man blocking. I always rode my lead blockers outside hip. Zone blockers are way more intelligent than man blockers as a general rule. I told all my guys that you make the read on the second level and I will react off of your decision. I'd ride their hip real close and then cut off of their first move inside or out. They didn't always read it right, but they did most of the time.

So, how does this translate? We have a great OL....although I wish we didn't part ways w/Tretter because he is so very good.......and maybe the best OL coach in the NFL combined w/a HC who came from the best tree in offensive football in the Shannahan/Kubiak tree and there are exciting possibilities here now that we have a legitimate top tier qb.

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Thanks for posting that. There is evidence in that video that disputes that he does not run w/vision. There were at least few examples in that video of him displaying good vision. I stand down.

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So, where did you play in high school, and where did you play in college?

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I won't reveal that. Sorry, but too many mean folks on this site and I have children who know those details. There are two posters on here who fabricate quotes from me in quotation marks in order to make me look bad. If I try and defend myself, they say that I started a fight. If you think that makes me a liar, so be it. FWIW.....I don't bring up the playing days to brag or prove something. I honestly thought that it provides some insight on how the position is played. Vision is important. I'm sorry that you don't approve.

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It's convenient that you won't reveal that.

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Cool stories/info Vers.
I enjoyed it, plus the info about Payton.

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Originally Posted by archbolddawg
It's convenient that you won't reveal that.

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I don't think it matters.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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It's convenient that you won't reveal that.

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I don't think it matters.

Oh, but it does. The conversations should be about personalities and not football. The guy does not add one comment about football and makes two about me, like that is so important. I was just trying to share some insight.

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Thanks for posting that. There is evidence in that video that disputes that he does not run w/vision. There were at least few examples in that video of him displaying good vision. I stand down.

I still think that he ducks his head at times not looking at the defenders
.. its' important to remember that these prospects can make improvements over the course of a season which wont be evident in earlier tape.


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Thanks for talking football. I think you are a valuable asset to this board. Your video showed something different than the player profiles I read. Thanks again.

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Just a few observations:


1 Vers, when presented with information that contradicted your position you acknowledged it and re-evaluated it. No one had to coax you into doing so. Just saying...


2. There is no evidence that Hunt is the subject of trades.

3. D'Earnest Johnson's situation presents more indications that he might be subject to release. He hasn't signed his tender and he's changed agents to someone known for aggressive, antagonistic tactics. I like D'Earnest but I think Ford is more talented.

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Originally Posted by 10YrOvernightSuccess
I wouldn’t have thought RB would be a draft need for us…

taking one at 156 doesn't make it a "NEED" pick.
D'Ernest Johnson will be looking for $$$ in his new contract and will hit the FA market next year. We will end up trading hm for a 5th round pick and move on. Ford I think is more talented than Johnson so we get an upgrade
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Weird he reminds me of Chubb.

Obvious speed. Efficient very little wasted steps. Decisive with quick feet. Shows power.

He has NFL ability. We are loaded at running back. Things will shake out. But he will play eventually.

I think he will do well.

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Me too. I said that earlier and then saw other comments from the "experts" comparing him to Hunt. He looks waaay more like Chubb to my eyes, for all the reasons you mentioned.


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After just a few plays Chubb came to mind.

By the end of the tape for sure he reminded me of Chubb. Hunt is different. Hunt is harder to define.

Hunt does not have Ford's speed. Hunt is violently explosive. He throws his body around. So, no he does not remind me of Hunt.

Ford sure looks like a NFL runner. Feels good having depth. The Ravens lost a bunch of runners last year.

The Browns are beginning to show real depth which will be important.

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Yep. Hunt runs with such reckless abandon that he looks like he's trying to keep his balance on roller skates at times. Arms flailing, the rest of his body trying to keep pace lol.


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Thanks for the video. Ford looks good. I had read three player profiles that mentioned his lack of vision, thus my earlier comments. However, I didn't see an issue w/vision at all. In fact, it looked like he had good vision.

I don't really see him as either Chubb or Hunt, but that's not important. Some things I noticed:

--Some quick twitch behind and at the LOS.
--Nice speed in the open field.
--Strong legs and he shed a lot of tackles in the open field and on the second level.
--Has some shiftiness and makes quick cuts at full speed.
--Did not see him blocking.
--Caught the ball close to his body.
--Had a ton of huge holes to run through.
--Nice build. Compact enough, but not bulky.

Overall, he looked good to me. Has a chance.

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Originally Posted by bonefish
Weird he reminds me of Chubb.

Obvious speed. Efficient very little wasted steps. Decisive with quick feet. Shows power.

He has NFL ability. We are loaded at running back. Things will shake out. But he will play eventually.

I think he will do well.


I thought the same thing when he is rumbling down the field and know one can catch him.

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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
Thanks for the video. Ford looks good. I had read three player profiles that mentioned his lack of vision, thus my earlier comments. However, I didn't see an issue w/vision at all. In fact, it looked like he had good vision.

I don't really see him as either Chubb or Hunt, but that's not important. Some things I noticed:

--Some quick twitch behind and at the LOS.
--Nice speed in the open field.
--Strong legs and he shed a lot of tackles in the open field and on the second level.
--Has some shiftiness and makes quick cuts at full speed.
--Did not see him blocking.
--Caught the ball close to his body.
--Had a ton of huge holes to run through.
--Nice build. Compact enough, but not bulky.

Overall, he looked good to me. Has a chance.


Good pionts Vers ... as far as his pass blocking is concerned he is more advance in that category than most of his peers are coming into the League ... he does a nice job, but there is room for improvement ... that is he needs to learn to extend his arms, but he understands the concepts already ... I think that Stump is probably happy with this pick.


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Me too. I said that earlier and then saw other comments from the "experts" comparing him to Hunt. He looks waaay more like Chubb to my eyes, for all the reasons you mentioned.

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Good pionts Vers ... as far as his pass blocking is concerned he is more advance in that category than most of his peers are coming into the League ... he does a nice job, but there is room for improvement ... that is he needs to learn to extend his arms, but he understands the concepts already ... I think that Stump is probably happy with this pick.

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Chubb, Hunt, D'Ernest, Felton, Ford (Kelly).

I doubt we will carry five backs into the season.

Kelly for sure to the practice squad.

Looks like someone will be traded. My guess is Chubb, Felton and Ford are safe. D'Ernest or Hunt maybe traded?

Last year on Hunt. D'Ernest was tendered and I think he is on the roster after a date that passed.

Even four backs is a lot to carry. So something has to happen. It would seem Hunt but I don't know?

We had four backs with Felton both as a receiver and back. They like Felton as a football player. D'Ernest has proven he can be a starter.

Hunt is a terrific player who will be a free agent. Does Hunt want to start for another team? Do the Browns want to keep Chubb and Hunt together?

If so why draft Ford? Nice to have the depth but soemthing needs to happen.

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How many RB's on the PS? Ford can do more if coached up I believe. Can Ford = Hunt? Can Ford = Felton? I really like Hunt. But we have some (necessary) trade bait in RB room if not on PS.


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The likelihood of sneaking a draft pick through waivers and getting him on the practice squad isn't that great.

I'm expecting that Kelly is practice squad, at most, and likely gone, and either D'Ernest or Hunt are not with us by the start of the season. I expect that it will be D'Ernest that isn't with us, but there's a chance he comes back and someone wants to trade for Hunt. I suppose there's a chance that Felton just moves to the WR room, too.


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j/c:

I prefer to keep Hunt. I think he is a better all-around back than Chubb in regards to blocking, short-yardage situations, and receiving. I am not saying he is better than Chubb, but rather, we need his skills. Also, part of my thinking is that what will teams give up for a RB? BOB is out of the league and this isn't going to be a Duke Johnson situation.

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A lot of people on twitter talking about trading Hunt. I think that's ludicrous. Worst case he signs somewhere else in his prime and we get a comp pick.

No more trading proven players for the hope of rookie. We are beyond that, this roster is good no reason to cheapen it on hope.

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Is Jerome Ford an every down back, or a gimmick use player.
If someone is an every down running back, it's best to throw out their first 3 to 4 games, when grading them.


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Originally Posted by BpG
A lot of people on twitter talking about trading Hunt. I think that's ludicrous. Worst case he signs somewhere else in his prime and we get a comp pick.

No more trading proven players for the hope of rookie. We are beyond that, this roster is good no reason to cheapen it on hope.

I agree, Chubb is untouchable, and Hunt should be also, let Johnson, Felton and Ford fight for the last couple spots ...


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I wasn't all that impressed by Felton, after the shininess wore off. And unless we trade Johnson, keeping 4 backs would mean Felton is gone IMO. Keeping 3 without Johnson also means Felton is gone, IMO. Johnson is the third back until we trade Hunt. I don't think he is ready to carry a team like Chubb or Hunt can. But he's not far from it.

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We have to give Felton some leeway. Let’s see how he does in his sophomore season. Our running back room is crowded, but we won’t be getting rid of Hunt quite yet.

Kareem is certainly above average, maybe elite. We don’t give him enough love cuz of Nick, but that’s cuz of Nick smile . The block to get Baker the first down the night we clinched a playoff spot? Beautiful, showed his toughness and wanting to win.


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Originally Posted by BpG
A lot of people on twitter talking about trading Hunt. I think that's ludicrous. Worst case he signs somewhere else in his prime and we get a comp pick.

No more trading proven players for the hope of rookie. We are beyond that, this roster is good no reason to cheapen it on hope.

I don't think we would be counting on a rookie. We would be counting on Nick Chubb and D'Ernest Johnson. Two guys who I think we can count on. No?

I have been saying to trade Hunt for a while now. I will amend that. My new thinking is to offer an extension to both Hunt and Johnson. The first to sign is the guy and the other traded. I think we could trade either.

Also, on Hunt, I am not sure, but I don't think we would get a comp pick for Hunt since we didn't draft him. If wrong, someone can correct me, with my advanced thanks.


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I think a three headed monster, Chubb, Hunt and Johnson would be the best option and we have seen how that can pay off when an injury strikes. But I don't discount your opinion holds merit. That's not typically how it's done.


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