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Record early voting - and record voting (total turnout) be two different things. Maybe they will both be records - but you may be jumping to an erroneous conclusion.


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Record early voting - and record voting (total turnout) be two different things. Maybe they will both be records - but you may be jumping to an erroneous conclusion.

Fair enough. The totals were at record levels. Changes in the laws haven't had negative impact at this point. It may even go on to show they had a positive impact.


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Record early voting - and record voting (total turnout) be two different things. Maybe they will both be records - but you may be jumping to an erroneous conclusion.

Fair enough. The totals were at record levels. Changes in the laws haven't had negative impact at this point. It may even go on to show they had a positive impact.

Hopefully so - but I would fear that the difference in turnout and numbers in a mid-term vs presidential election are significant enough to be of concern.


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Originally Posted by keithfromxenia
Well you are 0 for 4 on those but I will bet I am right on the money with your news networks. So how do you feel that the networks you depended on for news lied to you for 4 years? You know now that they did. Does it bother you? Do you still watch them and believe what they tell you? Just curious.

There's a difference in watching "the news" and watching political pundits and their talk shows. I would never watch MSNBC expecting to find news. I would never watch any political pundit from either side expecting to find news. Why is it you believe that only those on the left are doing the lying? You actually fell flat on "who I believe" because if something is important enough for me to care about I'll fact check it and look at multiple sources for verification. If I can find a local news source where the story actually took place I like those best. They know the community and have a lot of local sources.

So it appears you didn't do very well trying to paint me into a corner either.


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Originally Posted by keithfromxenia
I will be fine if it never comes up again. All that said, there is more smoke around this election than a level 2 hurricane wind could blow away.

And there it is. After 62 court cases, some even decided by Trump appointed judges found nothing, after Trump's own appointed AG said there was no wide spread voter fraud, here you are taking their bait.

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Election laws were changed illegally so many votes were cast illegally.

And this is yet another lie that has already been settled in court several times.

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Unsigned absentee ballots were accepted without scrutiny. Vote collection boxes were out in the community in many cases completely unmonitored. There is some evidence that some people made multiple visits to these ballot boxes in the middle of the night. Just a lot of smoke, might be some fire there too.

Wow, you have been indoctrinated hook, line and sinker.

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But election is over and November will be the first step in righting this ship that is listing badly.

Your post certainly doesn't reflect that. Who are your news sources again?


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Record early voting - and record voting (total turnout) be two different things. Maybe they will both be records - but you may be jumping to an erroneous conclusion.

Fair enough. The totals were at record levels. Changes in the laws haven't had negative impact at this point. It may even go on to show they had a positive impact.

Hopefully so - but I would fear that the difference in turnout and numbers in a mid-term vs presidential election are significant enough to be of concern.

I am not sure what you are saying, but Presidential elections always generate a larger turnout. There are a lot of people who don't even vote unless it is for President.

Makes no sense to me. Local elections have as big of an impact on your life.


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There have been many laws enacted in certain states since the 2020 election that are intended to discourage voters. I'll give you one such obvious example. In Texas each county is now allowed only one voting drop box where people can drop off their votes. Counties in rural Texas where the population is low, that's not a huge issue. But in counties that have millions of voters? You know, urban areas where Democratic turn out is high? It could result with people being in line for hours just to drop off their vote. Having the number of voter drop off boxes per capita would have made it a fair playing field for everyone. But that's not what happened and the reason why it's so obvious.


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Does Texas have mail in voting? Yes.

So, now actually going to the polls is optional. Actually going to a drop box is 'anti democrat'? And optional. But it's not good enough to have the 3 options?

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Why would you even try to uphold that a county of over 4,680,000 thousand people, Harris County which is highly democrat, should have the same number of drop boxes as Loving County which has 67 residents? Is that what you consider an equal opportunity to vote by using a drop box? Look, you can make up any kind of BS you like, but there's nothing fair about that and it targets Democratic strongholds in the state.

Each method of voting should give every resident an equal opportunity. This clearly does not.


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There are 3 options for voting in Texas. One of them is the preferred method by many dem's on here. It's available. Don't even need to leave the house/apartment.

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So that's your excuse to make one of the three methods of voting unfair for millions. Got it.


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I wasn't aware that the drop box was only for democrats. Republican must get their own? Or do republicans have the exact same options as democrats?

Oh, population of 4,680,000? Only 2,480,00 are registered to vote. (I know registration means nothing to you.) But, OF those 2,480,000 that were registered in 2020, only 1,633,000 voted. And of those that voted, 1,434,000 voted early.

So take your population, subtract people that didn't vote, as well as subtract those that voted early.

But, it only affects the D's, right?

https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/historical/harris.shtml

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You're hilarious. I guess you missed that these urban areas are strong democratic strongholds for voters. But now that you mention it, what does it really matter what party they belong to? How is it fair to any voters? And let's use your number which is more accurate when counting actual voters. One drop box for 1,434,000 voters while you have one drop box in a county with the population of 67 residents.

Dear Lord arch. You have an uncanny way of overlooking the obvious.

Using Harris County as an example, in the last election 55.9% of voters voted Democrat and 42.7% voted Republican. Yeah, they're working to stop Republicans from winning.


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So, everyone, R's, D's, and I's, have the same 3 opportunities to vote.

If you don't like that, I don't know what to tell you.

Take it up with Texas - probably the legislature there.

How long are the drop boxes out? A day? A week? A month?

How long does it take to throw something in the box and leave? Don't like it? Mail your ballot.

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But they don't have the same opportunity. You just keep making excuses why everyone in the state of Texas should be treated differently in terms of having drop boxes per capita which gives every voter in the state the equal opportunity to use those drop boxes. Your excuse seems to be, "So what if depending where you live means you may have to share one drop box with millions of people instead of less than 100 people. I mean tough crap. Nobody has to be fair because you don't have to use a drop box." At this point it seems you know it's not really fair but you don't care.


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Keep twisting. You're excellent at it.

You started off by saying it wasn't fair to the dem's, in that one county. I've shown, and PROVEN, the numbers, AND the way people can vote. 3 different ways, actually.

You be you and get the last word.

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Making excuses why democratic strong holds have far less drop boxes per capita is what you've done. Your PROVEN numbers show that almost 2 million people have the same access to drop boxes as a county with 66 total residents. So what excuse will you make for southern states that have closed several polling locations in poor, black areas which will make many without transportation be forced to travel much greater distances? I'm sure you will come up with something.

I can understand why you would want people to stop pointing out why you would make excuses for not making voting fair and equal in a red state.


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You are beyond even being able to have a discussion with. The same damn boxes apply to everyone. The same voting booths apply to everyone. The ability to vote by mail applies to everyone.

Run along now, I'm sure there's some thread that you haven't posted in in the last 3-4 minutes.

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No, when one county only has one drop box for almost 2 million voters and another county has one drop box where the total population is 66 residents the ability to use a drop box is not the same or equal. I know it's hard. It's math.


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