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30 percent????? I don't buy that. However bash the GOP all you want since I am not a GOP'er and common sense has taken over a bit more as many states do not allow abortion for convenience anymore.

Nor rape and incest.

Yes the problem is with extremists on both sides, but they are the minority. It's the folks in the middle who need to be able to vote for people who represent them not the nut case extremests on both sides which is where we are stuck at right now. Both parties are being run by them.

It's obvious that's what "we need". It's also obvious those aren't the people running so many of our states that think a woman or girl that has been raped or a victim of incest doesn't have the right to an abortion. And maybe you should take a look at those running in 2022. The crazies are spreading, not lessening.

Ok, Pitt, You do you and I'll do me. Yes, we agree on some things, and on others, we are worlds apart. And my "feelings and thoughts" or "empty rhetoric" comes from things politicians are saying, even if they are mostly progressives. Just because you dislike progressives, doesn't mean they are wrong about what they plan to do if the balance in the Senate changes and they hold the House. And that is looking likely at this point, so I think you are wrong.

Biden has said plainly that they will codify the things the Extreme Court is trying to end. Also, Manchin is now the only hold out on changing the filibuster. They realize that McConnell and the dirty dealing GOPers will DO ANYTHING to maintain power. There is no Kumbaya, let's work together, let's be civil mentality right now. Even Biden has turned that page and he's Mr. Unity, he ran on it. There is too much on the line to not fight it out in the gutter and trenches unless you like you some Christo-Fascist-State; we're talking LGBTQ rights, Abortion rights, Equal rights, Same-Sex Marriage, Interracial Marriage, Privacy Rights, Separation of Church and State, Rights to Contraception, and Voting Rights. And currently, there are several states where GOPers have deceptively confusing ballot initiatives trying to amend their state constitutions to reflect all of their policy idiocy during mid terms when less people vote. Those who really care about preserving gemocracy are truly fired up and speaking out decisively.

Neither should be used to write policy... most on both sides of the argument can compromise at the end of the 1st term as a cut off... this makes sense and is where I think most state laws should be...

Unity and compromise are fine. Not so much "I want it all and I want it now!".

You don't seriously believe the white part do you? And I agree the progressive overreached instead of just keeping it about working people like they should have. I think some of their ideas are nuts sometimes. But they at least get it's about working people and not the 1%er financial ruling class. And at least they put plans out and try to solve real problems, instead of forking money over to corps and the elites at every turn. You just can't say that about so-called moderates centrists or the right. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference which is which until you get to the Trumpian base.

It's not hard for people who actually try.

GOP lawmaker attended gay son's wedding 3 days after voting against same-sex marriage

The gay son of Rep. Glenn Thompson, R-Pa., got married on Friday. A few days earlier, his father voted against the Respect for Marriage Act.

A Republican lawmaker attended his gay son’s wedding just three days after joining the majority of his GOP colleagues in voting against a House bill that would codify federal protections for same-sex marriage.

The gay son of Rep. Glenn Thompson, R-Pa., confirmed to NBC News on Monday that he “married the love of [his] life” on Friday and that his “father was there.” NBC News is not publishing the names of the grooms, neither of whom is a public figure.

Thompson’s press secretary, Maddison Stone, also confirmed the congressman was in attendance.

“Congressman and Mrs. Thompson were thrilled to attend and celebrate their son’s marriage on Friday night as he began this new chapter in his life,” Stone said in an email, adding that the Thompsons are “very happy” to welcome their new son-in-law “into their family.”

Gawker was the first to report on the nuptials in an article published Thursday, the day before the ceremony, though it was not reported whether the lawmaker would attend.

In an email last week to the local newspaper Centre Daily, Stone called the Respect for Marriage Act “nothing more than an election-year messaging stunt for Democrats in Congress who have failed to address historic inflation and out of control prices at gas pumps and grocery stores.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out...ing-3-days-voting-sex-marriage-rcna39863

I don't see any conflict. The Marriage Act is a dog and pony show compared to what Congress needs to be doing.

I can see why you would say that since you aren't gay.

why does it have to be "either/or" ?
why can't it be a "yes/and" ?

Haven't you gotten the message yet? If it's not something conservatives think is important to them it's a waste of time. Get with the program man!

so narrow.
so limited.

Oh I have looked the big problem by far is the far leaning nut jobs on both sides (on both sides) Once again ON BOTH SIDES.

Yet the very thing you stood on has allowed those crazies on one side not to allow women who are the victims of rape and incest get an abortion. They created policies that forced a ten year old rape victim have to leave Ohio to get an abortion. They do not advocate for or promote the resources needed to care for them in the foster care system. I find it odd how you point out the crazies on both sides when you helped the crazies on one side create this debacle.

You bash the hell out of anybody who is against abortion on demand, and you stand by and watch others bash the hell of anybody who does not agree with them. Tell me honestly please, do I insult, bash, and make fun of those who don't agree with me??? Do others bash the hell out of folks who don't agree with them.

and the side you agree with allows them to murder innocent babies. Here is the difference you agree with them being allowed to murder babies, I disagree with the idiots who won't allow abortion in the case of rape/incest.

I stated the facts of what is happening in several states and what did happen here in Ohio. You made it plain that you advocated and voted to help create this situation by overturning roe vs wade. Unless you had no idea what would happen? We all warned you and others what would happen and how this would end up looking.

How is any of that bashing you? This is the results of what you wanted and advocated for. I know the reality of it may sound like bashing but it's the actual results of what you wanted.

ON THE REGULAR. MAGAts bash everything including their own RINOs, the police trying to stop their violence, and all non-White and or non-Christian Americans who don't align with their crude rude fascist hate-filled agenda. Prove me wrong.

The reality is that you support abortion bro. Don't claim that you don't because you don't believe in it but your don't have the balls to stand up for your beliefs.

I agree.

What I have is the balls not to force my beliefs on others. Some feel making society obey their beliefs means they have balls. It doesn't. If anything it's a sign of weakness. When they can't control other Americans they feel weak and powerless. When they feel they can't impose their will on our nation they feel threatened and must change that. Hopefully that will help you understand what balls do and do not look like. That Jr. high BS you're pushing doesn't work with me.

Do you have any Xanax? It sounds like you could use one about now.

BULLCRAP

Some believe it's ok to have sex with minors, some believe it's OK to kill children. Some believe it's OK to kill people just because they disagree. Some believe it's OK to chain smoke around others. Some believe it's OK to drink a case of beer and drive. etc, Etc, ETc, Why in the hell is it OK to push your beliefs on them???

Yet they also saved the lives of many children who would have been dead. Why is it that you support this????? Are all for murdering innocent children like you say your not?

Bottom line Bro you won't stand up for your beliefs. Look in the mirror and tell me how you feel when a mother murders her own child.

Forget it Bubba. Don't get sucked in

"Because of Texas abortion law, her wanted pregnancy became a medical nightmare"

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...ted-pregnancy-became-a-medical-nightmare

and those folks who ignored her symptoms should be charged People have gone from one extreme to another .... freakin idiots.

How can you charge people for following the law?

The side you agree with thinks you’re wrong about rape/incest, and left to their choice would probably eliminate birth control pills and condoms.

There are a number of stories about Doctors not taking action in cases where a pregnancy has become non viable pregnancy for fear of criminal charges.

The House hearing last week had an interesting twist where a pro life proponent was trying to redefine abortion in a way that was contrary to the definition… Trying to thread a needle to open up an escape clause to allow termination in the case of rape/incest/very young age. While creative, the strategy would require rewriting everything in the world about abortion.

Not much is being said about that. Whoever leaked that draft may have really screwed the pooch on that one.
One thing the blurb posted doesn't mention is that Roberts wanted to find ways to preserve parts of Roe. I suppose to find a middle ground on the issue, but I guess we will never know...at least in the short term.

Can I get abortion in Texas if I have a life-threatening pregnancy?

Yes. Texas’ ban on abortion makes exceptions for cases in which an abortion would save the pregnant patient’s life or prevent “substantial impairment of major bodily function.”

Not a medical doctor, nor a lawyer... nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.


IMO, I don't think your statement here mitigates the story from above. They can treat infections. Medically and legally, there is a big difference between being in actual danger, and knowing what is going to happen next. They have to allow the infection to progress until she's in actual real danger. The likes of that TX governor is taking the decision-making out of doctors' hands for actual medical questions, and preventing them from following standard of care.

Oob's, you seem to be picking at straws.

Is she in danger?
Fake real danger, or real, real danger?

One would hope that MD's don't make the call too soon, nor too late.

The hospital's actual lawyers appear to disagree with you...