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I'm glad they caught these guys pretty fast. Brings some closure to the family ya know.
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Now you're just being an ass.  Lumping Toad in with Navy takes away any credibility you might have had with me. He is right, you need to take a reading comprehension course. The worst thing Toad ever said is that he thought it might have been a hit. he came to that conclusion because of info in the media that was not reported in a honest way (jmo). He went out of his way to repeat himself over and over how he didn't think Taylor deserved it, while Navy was saying how Taylor got what he deserved.
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I might welcome it if I could really say what I want!! The police have stated that they have confession and a solid case!
http://www.miamiherald.com/1246/story/326903.html
Sean knew these kids and they were casing his house, not some person from his so called "thug" past!!
Edit: Small minds aren't worth it.
On to important people and topics. I'm glad they are getting to the bottom of it. Too bad the media was allowed to speak of things that weren't factual, or maybe all this speculation wouldn't have gotten so far.
As much as I rally against the media......
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I'm willing to bet that this "robbery" or "burglary" isn't going to turn out to be that simple. This was probably done due to his "Thuglary" (yes i just made that word up). It was probably the result of some kind of illegal activities that Sean is or was involved with. I may be wrong.... but I doubt it.
The lates news so far indicates that Sean Taylor was not "involved" with any illegal activities that had anything to do with these individuals.
All of us have a right to wrong...
Jumping to conclusions before the facts are known...perhaps an indication of someone with a deeper problem than "just being wrong".
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Now, if a person is innocent of a charge, he or she will fight it. They will not have a plea bargain. Taylor is guilty as charged. What goes around, comes around. You play with guns and shoot at cars with them, the same comes back to you.
yet another one...still on page one.
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I might welcome it if I could really say what I want!! The police have stated that they have confession and a solid case!
http://www.miamiherald.com/1246/story/326903.html
Sean knew these kids and they were casing his house, not some person from his so called "thug" past!!
Edit: Small minds aren't worth it.
On to important people and topics. I'm glad they are getting to the bottom of it. Too bad the media was allowed to speak of things that weren't factual, or maybe all this speculation wouldn't have gotten so far.
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Toad...yea, it's all on the media...the media made you say the above.
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I stepped in early then stepped out quickly. All the hatred by the internet thugs was unbearable. I only wish our DBs could backpedal as good as some of our posters. For the record Mac, Toad did show sympathy, however he did draw some conclusions from some very iffy reporting. Others, will still try to find a way to twist and shape this to stand by their statements. Some posters have destroyed their own credibility. 
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I shouldn't be, but I have been amazed by this thread......this was a human being, not just a common horse as Barbaro was.....
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I shouldn't be, but I have been amazed by this thread......this was a human being, not just a common horse as Barbaro was.....
Exactly Shep.
Help me with somthing though.
Maybe being a Cane fan makes me be a little over sensitive, but How do you think this thread would have gone if this had been a player from OSU ?
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That would have been very interesting.....that's all the speculation I could give.
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That would have been very interesting.....that's all the speculation I could give.
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Looks as if I may have been wrong. Although it is still under investigation. If I am wrong, I will be the 1st to say it. Whether or not I am right or wrong.... No one would have had any negative speculations if it wasn't for the years he spent playing the thug role. Spin it how you like, but a person is looked at for what he has done in his life. If Sean had been an upstanding citizen throughout his life, there wouldn't have been any of that speculation. As far as: Quote:
while Navy was saying how Taylor got what he deserved.
Never once did I say that, nor am I pleased that he is dead. Just didn't surprise me at how he left the world by how he lived in the world.
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I don't think it would have mattered if he had gone to Lakeland Community College. What the hell difference does it make what school he went to?
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while Navy was saying how Taylor got what he deserved.
Causing your demise does not mean deserving your demise.
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Why do I have to show any sympathy? I believe he has brought this upon himself. The only people I feel for is his family.
No this is what you said , with only speculation as your sidekick.
By the way do you play DB ?
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Why do I have to show any sympathy? I believe he has brought this upon himself. The only people I feel for is his family.
No this is what you said , with only speculation as your sidekick.
I know what I said, I reposted what I said in the above post for those of you that can't comprehend.
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Why? Wanna hold my jock?
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God I hope my lawnman doesn't kill me this week, or I will have caused my own demise by hiring him.
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God I hope my lawnman doesn't kill me this week, or I will have caused my own demise by hiring him.
Difference between hiring someone to do LEGAL jobs and thugging around committing felonies.
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Can't, that appears to be firmly attached over you head.
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You know after reading your initial responses in this thread, I actually thought you really cared about Sean Taylor, but your last few posts show me that you seem to care about being "right" more then anything else, plus your use of the silly icon in a thread about a man's death isn't being the sensitive, holleir then now person you've tried to make yourself out to be. Just because he played for a team you root for, doesn't mean people are wrong because they don't share your opinion. In the long run I hope this is a wake up call to all the athletes who live a questionable lifestyle.
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God I hope my lawnman doesn't kill me this week, or I will have caused my own demise by hiring him.
Difference between hiring someone to do LEGAL jobs and thugging around committing felonies.
Seems his lawnman was doing both. A legal job and thuging around.
You and you are not alone on this, drew a opinion on him based on one LEGAL problem, and what are some , in my opinion , acts of imaturity.
Spitting in Pittmans face, who by the way was released by a team for beating the hell out of his wife twice.
Does that make him a thug too ?
Not attending offseason conditioning, all the Canes work out in the Gables every year.
That's kinda like me calling you a murderer because you were in the Navy.
Are you a murder ? NO, because you may have be doing what was needed to be done to protect our country.
He may have been doing what was needed to protect himself.
So now that it has come out that this wasn't somthing that he broght on himself , do you have any sympathy for him now ?
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Seems his lawnman was doing both. A legal job and thuging around.
You and you are not alone on this, drew a opinion on him based on one LEGAL problem, and what are some , in my opinion , acts of imaturity.
one LEGAL problem? You mean one FELONY.
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Does that make him a thug too ?
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There you go again, I could give a rats crap what the Canes do.
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Are you a murder ? NO, because you may have be doing what was needed to be done to protect our country.
No, its not kinda like that.
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Protecting himself? If by protecting yourself you mean gathering some more thugs to beat a man you may be right. Oh wait, he didn't need protecting, he was hunting this man down... In 2005, Taylor was accused of brandishing a gun at a man and repeatedly hitting him during a fight that broke out after Taylor and some friends went looking for the people who had allegedly stolen his all-terrain vehicles.
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So now that it has come out that this wasn't somthing that he broght on himself , do you have any sympathy for him now ?
It is still an ongoing investigation.
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Just stop digging your hole.
The man is dead, and at the moment it appears as if he was killed by a couple of punk teenagers looking for a buck. His felony charges don't make him deserving of this at all.
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Just stop digging your hole.
The man is dead, and at the moment it appears as if he was killed by a couple of punk teenagers looking for a buck. His felony charges don't make him deserving of this at all.
Didn't say that. If you would learn how to read, I never said he deserves to die for his felony charges.
So STOP putting words in my mouth.
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P, Just because you and Toad are buddies I guess means you cannot see the truth for what it is. Toad quote: Quote:
So while I'd like to believe he'd been changing his ways, nobody, not you, not Rolle, not the 'Skins, and not even his own girl can prove otherwise.
Ya know, what I'm gettin' here is the feeling that you want everyone to believe he'd changed his ways. You can't prove that he has, so you'll probably just have to live with the fact that people will believe what they want to believe.
Well maybe you and Toad can hold hands and believe the cops/Gibbs and all the rest of the people now!
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Hey, I'm no cop. I wasn't there. I don't know the facts of what they've found or haven't found at the house. What I do know is that on the radio they talked about a knife being left on the pillow of his bed the previous week, and that the investigators took a computer out of his house. Neither of those facts are things I've ever heard of when talking about a simple burglery gone bad. I also can't ever recall a burglery where the crooks made a ton of noise, broke into the bedroom, fired shots, then left.
So........having said all that, I don't believe this to be a simple burglery. It just doesn't add up. Rolle knew Taylor's old ways and said he'd been with the wrong crowd. He then said that he felt that Taylor's old ways had come back to haunt him. This thing was fishy from the get-go, and now it's REALLY suspect. A simple theft? I think not.
Maybe you and Toad can learn from this since first, you and he are not cops, second - > apparently you do not know SQUAT about robberies nor what is or is not suspect.
Now I did not say looking at his past for a crime is bad, BUT, labeling the guy to be one thing and saying that this crime was a result of that makes either you and him big a-holes!!! Now unfortunately for you, you because friends with someone who ALWAYS does this. Don't believe me, look up your buddies posts about Winslow and Edwards!!!
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Is this not the truth!! I mean of course that they have been proven wrong, well now its I did not say that, I did not mean that!!. What jokes!!! But again, this is the same posters that wanted to trade Winslow and Edwards!!!.... Look up some of those boards when people were telling them that they just need time to grow. But it was like someone said before, certain people do not get the benefit of the doubt, just contempt.
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What does my wife have to do with this??
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He lived a checkered life and when you put yourself into this position you better have an understanding of the consequences involved, and death is one of them. This wasn't random, this was a hit, and if scum wants to kill each other I have no problem with it, no matter if it's a guy who plays football in the NFL
First off Fletch, this stopped being a thread about Sean Taylors' death , about 10 posts into it.
It became a character assination.
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Just stop digging your hole.
The man is dead, and at the moment it appears as if he was killed by a couple of punk teenagers looking for a buck. His felony charges don't make him deserving of this at all.
Didn't say that. If you would learn how to read, I never said he deserves to die for his felony charges.
So STOP putting words in my mouth.
I never said you did. I siad stop making yourself look foolish by constantly bringing up the fact that he had a felony charge. At this stage of the game, what does it matter? What is the point of constantly bringing it up in almost every post? The man had a felony. What does it have to do with what happened to him?
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Navy I have a question for you bud, and I know you will give me your honest opinion  I use to drive drunk seven nights a week, I used to do every drug you can think off. I did things in my youth I would love to take back now, and I am a Bible thumper. Do I deserve to be punished for the stupid crap I did as a youth????
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Your close bud bud thanks for the answer
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Causing your demise does not mean deserving your demise.
I'm not going back and reading all your posts so I will have to take your word that I implied something you didn't say. For that I am sorry.
The rest of my comments about you I am standing by.
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Maybe you should actually read what I have said from the begining. Toad and I have not agreed on what has been said, and I even told you that.
You are clueless.
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First off Fletch, this stopped being a thread about Sean Taylors' death , about 10 posts into it.
It became a character assination.
Thats your interpretation, but I read a thread concerning Sean Taylor, I can't call it character assasination since his character has been questionable.
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Then you have the nerve to Try and call me out after making this statement ? One more time for you
No need to tell me what I already said, an easily can have the nerve to question your agenda on this issue since you changed from caring, to only caring about being right. There is nothing wrong with that comment, the guy lived a questionable lifestyle, at the time it was a reasonable reaction, but I notice you ignored my other statements in which you were caring more about being right, then caring about this persons demise. I also don't think this is the end of the story, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some connection with the burglars and his past, but only time will tell, and then again the actual truth may never come out.
I had no issues with your comments and thought you made a hell of a valid arguement but you ruined it by gloating because you feel your right, and that I didn't find cool because no matter what you think this thread is about, It still is about a man's death.
It was a weird circumstance, why some find this hard to understand doesn't make sense.
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This isn't directed at PDawg...
This thread has been ruined... People are more arguing and trying to make each other look right or wrong or trying to make people look bad instead of actually discussing the death.
If were not going to show the man any respect at least keep the discussions reasonable instead of just bickering...
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I agree this thread went wrong in so many ways, that incudes both sides of the issue, I think people went to extremes but the fact is a man died, and the whole story has yet to unfold. Too many are trying to be right and are forgetting the outcome of the whole situation. This thread has become something that it shouldn't, but when agenda's get involved that makes this a train wreck.
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