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We dropped to 3.25 per gallon around here then POOF 4 days later it was back up to 3.65 per gallon


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That seems odd. It's been a very steady drop here. I saw one station this morning where it was $3.15 but that was an outlier. It's running between $3.30 and $3.35 most every other place.


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Ours has been slowly dropping then BAM all at once back up by by40 cents per gallon at every gas station banghead


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
It shouldn't come as shocking. It's easy for people to say, "Well, if I was making that I would live just as I live today and save the rest".

I call BS on that. People are going to buy the new Lexus and have the big home with the nice stuff inside rather than the old car, small home with the old TV and couch. When people get a tax rebate, very few put that in the bank. They go out and buy things by a overwhelming majority.

I don't really discount what you're saying. And you're right about "very few put that in the bank." There are reasons for that however. Percentage wise very few can afford to put that in the bank. Many have actual needs like a better vehicles. Not because they want a Lexus, but because there's is old and keeps breaking down. They are behind on their bills and use that rebate to help catch up. Their kids need clothes, their appliances are breaking down, etc..... The percentage of people who can afford a new Lexus or a bigger house based on tax rebates are practically non existent.

And that's the reality of the situation. When you put rebates or higher wages in the hands of those who are actually struggling, they NEED to spend that money. Thus that money goes back into the economy which in turn helps businesses thrive. When you put that money in the hands of people who aren't struggling, that money is far more likely to be saved or invested in ways that take it out of circulation.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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I find that article fascinating! a third of people earning over $200k live pay check to pay check... that seems crazy to me... over half of those earning $100k....

man... some of those numbers are just eye opening... thanks for sharing

I brought that up in another thread. People make what they spend.

I am sure they save the same percentages as anyone else in their retirement funds. The deal is they have nicer cars and more expensive homes. Those cost money.

It shouldn't come as shocking. It's easy for people to say, "Well, if I was making that I would live just as I live today and save the rest".

I call BS on that. People are going to buy the new Lexus and have the big home with the nice stuff inside rather than the old car, small home with the old TV and couch. When people get a tax rebate, very few put that in the bank. They go out and buy things by a overwhelming majority.

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What about Trump.....Trump Trump Trump Trump. You have the orange man on the brain. The humor is that gas goes well over 5 bucks a gallon, drops a dollar and CBS is claiming it's a windfall. I don't care who's in office, that's funny.

You seem to miss that Trump is still leading the GOP. That millions of Americans believe his BS. Believe me when and if he climbs under a rock where he belongs I'll stop talking about him.

It's hilarious that some of you keep complaining we still talk about trump when the very things he said and did are now the staples of the GOP. He's running the show. So yeah, as long as that's happening he will be brought up. See, that's the problem. when he lies like that people believe him. The worst thing people in this nation can do is ignore pointing out that he's lying no matter how much you would like us to. Orange man on the brain is what's infected and is still infecting the GOP. That's certainly no fault of mine.

And none of that has anything to do with the topic of this thread. We complain because you feel the need to derail every thread into "what about Trump" There's dozens of threads about Trump on this board. Talk about him all you want in those threads. You don't need to bring up Trump in every thread.


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Originally Posted by Swish
well if they're making over 200k and whining about inflation, that sounds like a personal problem.

this board use to criticize those who lived above their means. now all of a sudden, i'm supposed to feel bad for those who continue to do so?

nah.

I was just responding to the statement Jay made on how that happens. I am not asking you to feel bad for anyone.


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Originally Posted by archbolddawg
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Originally Posted by jaybird
I find that article fascinating! a third of people earning over $200k live pay check to pay check... that seems crazy to me... over half of those earning $100k....

man... some of those numbers are just eye opening... thanks for sharing

I brought that up in another thread. People make what they spend.

I am sure they save the same percentages as anyone else in their retirement funds. The deal is they have nicer cars and more expensive homes. Those cost money.

It shouldn't come as shocking. It's easy for people to say, "Well, if I was making that I would live just as I live today and save the rest".

I call BS on that. People are going to buy the new Lexus and have the big home with the nice stuff inside rather than the old car, small home with the old TV and couch. When people get a tax rebate, very few put that in the bank. They go out and buy things by a overwhelming majority.

You don't know me very well.

Actually, I knew you would have something to say, so I do know you.

Obviously, I am speaking in general terms.


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https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...-across-all-income-levels-301596552.html

61% of people live paycheck to paycheck, so I'd guess it matters to them.

It's very odd that a lot of people don't really give a damn about people who live paycheck to paycheck until they can use it to support their agenda.

ie......

We need to raise the minimum wage to help these people.

Their answer? Oh HELL NO!

We need to have paid family leave to help those people.

Their answer? Oh HELL NO!

I could go on with a pretty long list of such things. Now all of a sudden they're concerned with those people living paycheck to paycheck? Things that make you go hmmmmm....

well, the minimum wage, and within 2 years... the cost of goods rose to keep the minimum wage workers poor.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
It shouldn't come as shocking. It's easy for people to say, "Well, if I was making that I would live just as I live today and save the rest".

I call BS on that.

Guess I'm the BS minority... I've spent a bit more in the last few years but still live well below my means... have had the same care for 15 years... paid it off in 3 and can't find a good enough reason to buy a new one...

maybe that's why I was shocked that the percentages were so high... especially for people over 100k


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Originally Posted by jaybird
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
It shouldn't come as shocking. It's easy for people to say, "Well, if I was making that I would live just as I live today and save the rest".

I call BS on that.

Guess I'm the BS minority... I've spent a bit more in the last few years but still live well below my means... have had the same care for 15 years... paid it off in 3 and can't find a good enough reason to buy a new one...

maybe that's why I was shocked that the percentages were so high... especially for people over 100k

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I was raised by 2 ppl who were dirt poor during The Great Depression. Those lessons I learned as a kid have served me pretty well.


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Bro- those numbers were shocking to me, too. I don't get it. notallthere


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I have always done much the same. I am not saying I agree with what I said. I was just saying how it is with most people, be it people who have to have the nice car with little else to the people who feel they have to keep up with the Jones family and join the country club. I still have a 2008 Camry. I figure i will trade in in a year or two to buy my last vehicle.

Just human nature, it is what it is.


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So we're discussing gas prices and showing where trump lied about gas prices not only when he was president but also when biden was president should not be mentioned? Because that has nothing to do with it? Sure. Sounds like you just don't like to be reminded he lies about almost everything.


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i wonder what conservatives would do to solve this problem that doesn't involve deregulating and cutting taxes for corporations.


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They'd focus on taking something from the poor and working class.

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They'd focus on taking something from the poor and working class.

oh yea, the Rick Scott plan.


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I know several people within 5-10 years of retirement age, who are taking out home equity and second mortgages to upgrade pools, etc. All while still having 10+ years on their current mortgage.

These are typically the same people who seem to struggle to come up with money for new tires and other car repairs.

I've come to realize that many people just assume money will just appear in their accounts when they are ready to retire.


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I own a 2002 truck with 166,000 miles on it, and have a daily driver 2015 car with around 90,000 miles. Both paid for. I’ll drive the 2015 for a few more years as I focus my finances towards my mortgage. I just set up my mortgage payment for September that’ll officially drop me under 5 years left on the loan. Less if I keep selling art and chip away at the principal with some of my profits. Which I do with each sale.
I can’t wait to make that last payment. I’ll be 53-55 years old and it’ll be ours outright. Outside of the unknown, I’ll be debt free. Man that’ll feel good.


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Originally Posted by FloridaFan
I know several people within 5-10 years of retirement age, who are taking out home equity and second mortgages to upgrade pools, etc. All while still having 10+ years on their current mortgage.

These are typically the same people who seem to struggle to come up with money for new tires and other car repairs.

I've come to realize that many people just assume money will just appear in their accounts when they are ready to retire.

There is also a large subset that understands but plans to work until they drop. Because that kind of being healthy enough to work now guarantees you will be able to work later logic has never failed.

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I guess this is pretty simple when you get down to it: Many people are flat out foolish. Many people flat our let their egos dictate their spending. Many people probably didn't have someone give them any guidance or coaching on money management or balancing a check book / account and the value of self restraint.

It's not hard - live within your means. Don't buy anything on credit. If you can't afford it - save for it. A car and a house are the only things that break those rule. That's how my parents were. That's how I am and more importantly my wife is the same. We're very fortunate - we could afford a bigger home, fancier cars and fancier phones but we don't ... instead we have money in the bank and investments. When the kids want to spend money on junk - 6 times out of ten they get some sort of discussion about the value of things and what it means to have what they want vs not have what they want and how they will feel about it in a months time. I probably over do it a bit, sometimes you just got to let them be kids ... but I honestly see the difference in them and how they ask for "stuff" vs other friends who feel like they want to give their kids "everything". With the kids especially I have always strived to ensure there is not an ounce of entitlement attitude - ever. No coincidence that my wife's family background and my own are very similar - grandparents working class, our parents earned everything they owned and made their own luck/success.

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Too many people seem to confuse the difference between what they want and what they need. So many times I hear people say "I need that" or "I need one of those". When in fact they don't need it at all. Buy what you need and make a plan to save for what you want.


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Sweet car.

It was a lot of fun. Chick magnet, too.
Hey, Vers- do me a favor. Clear some space in your inbox. I wanna send you something.


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