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The end of an era... 70 years of service.

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I think it's a sad day when anyone does. On the other hand I have never understood American's fascination with the British Royal Family.


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Sad, but she had a full life. And for a Queen with very limited power, she left her mark serving her namesake well.

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RIP Queen Elizabeth. As someone else stated, I have no idea why so many Americans have a fascination with royalty ..... but she seemes like a good leader, who helped, in some smal way, to m,ove the country to a represenative type of government.


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Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan
RIP Queen Elizabeth. As someone else stated, I have no idea why so many Americans have a fascination with royalty ..... but she seemes like a good leader, who helped, in some smal way, to m,ove the country to a represenative type of government.

probably less to do with America specifically. the world has a vested interest in the british royal family.

let's remember YTown, we're not the only country whose independence day is sponsored by the British lol. there's like 20 something other countries as well. it is OG America afterall, so i get why we pay so much attention to the royal family, for better or worse.


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I don't get or join in the "obsession" with royalty - but QEII was all class and reigned over different generations in a way few others ever could. As a head of state with basically no political clout, she was much loved and set an example that could be embraced for the last 70 years and 15 prime-ministers. A sad day that marks a huge change. It will be interesting to see how Charles is accepted and embraced moving forward.


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I think most of the obsession in this country is with women who have some age on them. I don't think men are overly obsessed with the royal family.

I think it just stems back to when as children women of that era dreamt about prince's, being a princess and other similar childhood fantasies, much like us guys dreamt about being baseball players and things like that.


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mostly, I think it's just crazy that they named her after a cruise ship


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Balls !! Cried the Queen !!

If I had two ! I'd be King !!

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Originally Posted by PrplPplEater
mostly, I think it's just crazy that they named her after a cruise ship


Those wacky Brits.
And hey call us 'daft'....

sheesh.
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RIP to the Queen. I don’t really put much stock into the royal family stuff, but she seemed like a good lady


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She was dressing like that long before Cam, so maybe Cam was trying to emulate her?


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Well, he did look like a queen.

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Sorry for the loss, she was not only a figure but also a person.


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Originally Posted by THROW LONG
Sorry for the loss, she was not only a figure but also a person.

Indeed.

It would have to be pretty hard to be a Royal. From birth to death, you are always in the spotlight. Being Prim and Proper every day of your life would have to be very hard.

I read somewhere the Queen was photographed less than a dozen times wearing slacks in her life as Queen, or even princess, and those were usually in some sort of hunting or riding clothes. A dozen times in over 70 years. Pretty amazing when you consider she was photographed pretty much every time she was seen anywhere.

I wonder if back in the bowels of one of her castles she just kicked back and sat around in an old beat-up robe and Phillip went the weekend without shaving?


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Wasn’t she a nazi as a young girl?


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
.... I have never understood American's fascination with the British Royal Family.
Envy. Plain and simple.....


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Wasn’t she a nazi as a young girl?

WTF?


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Originally Posted by bbrowns32
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
.... I have never understood American's fascination with the British Royal Family.
Envy. Plain and simple.....

Thats not it. People like the royals for the same reason people read tmz and the enquirer. Gossip and drama about celebrities.

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Originally Posted by mgh888
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Wasn’t she a nazi as a young girl?

WTF?

Look it up.


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Originally Posted by EveDawg
Originally Posted by bbrowns32
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.... I have never understood American's fascination with the British Royal Family.
Envy. Plain and simple.....

Thats not it. People like the royals for the same reason people read tmz and the enquirer. Gossip and drama about celebrities.

I'm pretty sure that this is the answer.
We've never been a particularly deep, insightful society.

Interesting: our Music Director is from Canada, but Alain Trudell is Quecbecoir. The Queen was dead before our first rehearsal this week, and he made no mention of it during our entire run. I'm not so sure that Canadiens in Montreal are as broken up about the Queen's passing as their fellow Canadians in Ottawa are.

I'd ask our friend lampdogg to give us Canada's temperature on this subject.

Lampy: how are Our Friends Up North reacting to the news of the Queen's passing?


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Originally Posted by lampdogg
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Wasn’t she a nazi as a young girl?

WTF?

Look it up.

She, at 6 or 7, copied her mom in a nazi salute at a time when Hitler just came into power and before anyone knew how horrific he was.... likely they were joking about the gesture... she was obviously not a Nazi...


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Originally Posted by Clemdawg
Lampy: how are Our Friends Up North reacting to the news of the Queen's passing?

Although not addressed to me, if I may (as I'm also a Canuck):Canada being a member of the Commonwealth, you might expect a strong sense of sympathy/sadness. This is true in general especially amongst the monarchists but not as overwhelming as you possibly may expect. I haven't seen any data on the subject but I'm certain the majority feels a sense of loss....


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Nice, and thanks for stepping up there, my fellow hoser.

We probably have more of a kinship with British royalty (I personally do not care very much because the monarchy to me is a waste of my tax dollars) than Americans, but I wouldn’t say that as a country, we’ve been deeply mourning her death. She WAS 96 years old, and we were more saddened by Diana’s passing.


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Hey lamp - British Monarchy probably cost the tax payer $100-120M per year - But I've read estimates that they generate $2.5B for the British Economy through tourism. I'd say that's a good return.

Came here to comment on the 9 hour long wait / line to see the Queen in mourning - a line stretching 4.2 miles at one point today. An absolutely tremendous outpouring of love and respect.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...eth-lie-state-westminster-hall-rcna47842

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I believe that, but most of that revenue generated by the monarchy doesn’t find its way across the pond, know what I am saying?

But we here in Canada still pay tens of millions of dollars on things like lieutenant-governorships (every Canadian province has one, and they get their own house and all the trappings), plus the millions we have to contribute to ‘royal visits’.

All that said, most Canadians are fine with it so I am part of a very small minority.


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It'll be interesting to see the evolution - as dry and crusty as Charles might appear he is quite a progressive. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see some sort of scaling back on the expenses like the ones you incur overseas in Canada.


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I understand the superficial-level reverence, but let's be clear here:

People in 1700's/1800's North America laid down their lives to free our sovereign nation from this Centuries-old monarchy.
In 1812, the forces that represented that monarchy tried to reassert their dominance over us... and burned down our nation's Capitol in the process.

We had to beat back this Old Woman's family not once, but twice... just to become a wholly sovereign nation unto ourselves.

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To this day, I'll never understand this nation's fascination for a family that sought to treat White American "Subjects of the British Crown" the same way White Americans treated their subjects/property/human farm machinery stolen from Africa.

Here we are in 2022, still paying tribute to a fading oligarchy that at one time, invaded/dominated/enslaved/exploited over half the known world... mostly, in the southern hemisphere, where all the good stuff lived that they weren't competent enough to produce for themselves.

The Queen's death has eclipsed almost all other US news for the past week.
I understand why, but still don't get it.

What does America owe her more than She'd owe to any of us?
What does America owe this family whose country was saved by us, when Global Nazism sought to bomb London to extinction?


I'm just thinking out loud as an outspoken American citizen, watching some foreign nation mourn the death of a potentate to whose family America never swore allegiance. A family We Americans had to fight TWICE to become the sovereign nation we now are.

I just don't get it.
Old Bat's gone.
Long live her memory; Chuck 3's the new owner of His Family's global shame.

Drop her in a hole, mumble some words, and move on.
I'm totally over this s#.

I'm a 21st c. American citizen.
An American citizen whose Family had to fight through 2 layers of this s# to even become legally recognized citizens of ANY country.
An American citizen whose people laid down their lives in support of a system that brought his ancestors to this shore- as chattel- in the holds of merchant ships.
An American citizen whose people did all this while still not enjoying the full benefits of American citizenship.

Forgive me if I have little to no sympathy for a country mourning a monarchical family that is responsible for the capture, transport and enslavement of those who stand as my ancestral forebears.

It's a sad and poignant day, to be sure- but let's not be sloppy or overly sentimental about this: this family is responsible for f#ing up the lives of entire nations for centuries.

I'll watch it all with interest- because it's World News.
I'll also watch it without one single tear.

Royals Lovers' sense of loss is nothing compared to the generations of loss QEII's family inflicted upon the rest of this world.

I have only this to say to the entire lot of them:

Thoughts.
Prayers.
Whatever.


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Well said Clem! Barvo! And I haven't noticed a single monument erected or military base named in their honor in America. I wonder why that is?


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