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Originally Posted by Milk Man
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I'm a little surprised about the pass rush aspect because I thought I saw Bryan Tioga or whatever his name is in the backfield more than Elliott, but that's great news.

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Togia (sp?) was disruptive a few times, you’re right. The DL was a strength for us yesterday. In fact, the entire defense was very good if you take away breakdowns. The good news is those can be fixed, whereas talent can’t


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I'm impressed with the D, except for the SEVERAL TD breakdowns....JFYI, ESPN put up QB ratings for week 1, guess where JB and BM are- JB just AHEAD of BM....I love JB's want to, AND he doesn't throw interceptions.....he'll hit more targets with work.....Go Browns!!

Maybe he will.

He has been around enough coaching by this point that his accuracy might be as good as it get's. I think our QB coach is good, but I don't think he has a bag of magic dust that other coaches don't have.

If anything can be improved with time is the timing. That might lead to more competitions.


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NFL Week 1 Game Recap: Cleveland Browns 26, Carolina Panthers 24

Jacoby Brissett and the Cleveland Browns spoiled Baker Mayfield's Carolina Panthers debut with a formidable running game and just enough passing offense to secure a last-second 26-24 win — capped by a Cade York 58-yard field goal.

Offensive spotlight: Baker Mayfield‘s revenge game didn't go exactly as planned, and the Panthers quarterback is set to earn a sub-55.0 passing grade after making two turnover-worthy plays and one big-time throw.

Defensive spotlight: Myles Garrett ensured rookie left tackle Ikem Ekwonu didn't enjoy his NFL debut. The pass-rusher racked up six pressures, including two sacks, and earned a 94.4 pass-rushing grade on first review.

Rookie spotlight: There's plenty of time for Ikem Ekwonu to develop, but his NFL debut was one to forget. He gave up four pressures on 33 pass-blocking snaps and didn't fare much better in the running game.

Offensive line spotlight: The Panthers' interior remained stout despite the tackles' struggles. The trio combined to allow only three hurries on 33 pass-blocking snaps apiece, headlined by a clean performance from center Pat Elflein.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-week-1-game-recap-cleveland-browns-26-carolina-panthers-24


Funny that they do not mention the two sacks Ekwonu also gave up.

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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
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Not to mention Bryan’s flag was crap. People want to talk about the roughing the passer call on Brissett, but that one was just as egregious … if not more so

I thought the RTP call against Carolina was pretty obvious. Helmet to helmet. But yes, the one against the Browns was pretty bad.

I thought both RTP calls were terrible. On the CAR penalty, I was convinced that the refs were going to call 'holding' on Wills...not because he was holding mind you...but he was getting blown up so bad that the DE was almost falling on top of him. That just looked odd as hell. I've seen us get BS calls like that before.

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That's freaking awesome!

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Originally Posted by WSU Willie
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Not to mention Bryan’s flag was crap. People want to talk about the roughing the passer call on Brissett, but that one was just as egregious … if not more so

I thought the RTP call against Carolina was pretty obvious. Helmet to helmet. But yes, the one against the Browns was pretty bad.

I thought both RTP calls were terrible. On the CAR penalty, I was convinced that the refs were going to call 'holding' on Wills...not because he was holding mind you...but he was getting blown up so bad that the DE was almost falling on top of him. That just looked odd as hell. I've seen us get BS calls like that before.

Agreed. Both bad calls.

A worse call that they are mad about here on the radio in CLT is the fake spike, spike - which is 100% a penalty and not subjective, just a case of the Refs not knowing the rules. Even the announcers knew the rules on the broadcast I watched! We dodged a bullet for sure.


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Originally Posted by FrankZ
I believe you have this correct.

To add, I think if the QBs had been swapped this would not have been a close game.


I agree..


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Originally Posted by Rishuz
The t-shirt wasn't a big deal!

He only licensed them!

He can't control what his marketing team does!

He doesn't control his brand!

Much ado about nothing!

Finally you posted the truth about it. I was wondering how long it would take.

York bailed out the Browns. Having a great kicker is important.


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I thought Baker played yesterday just like the Baker we saw for 4 seasons. He made some big plays, made some bad plays. 1 TD, 1 INT, and a rushing TD. Right at 60% completion%, for 235 yards. Was he better than Brissett yes, except Brissett never turned the ball over. I think Baker is and always will be a mediocre QB. Maybe 16th best in the league. Problem is that is 3rd or 4th best in our division. His Browns teams would have always hovered around 8 to 11 wins depending on how well the defense and running game played. I think the Browns front office decided he was not the QB that could take a franchise to the Super Bowl and the emergence of Joe Burrow pointed that out to them clearly. That is why they went all in on Watson and did not care the price. They saw their fortunes tied to a mediocre QB and did what ever they had to to get a franchise QB. I think many Browns fans watching him yesterday in an opposing teams jersey took off their rose colored glasses when he was our QB and saw what our FO saw.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
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The t-shirt wasn't a big deal!

He only licensed them!

He can't control what his marketing team does!

He doesn't control his brand!

Much ado about nothing!

Finally you posted the truth about it. I was wondering how long it would take.

York bailed out the Browns. Having a great kicker is important.

For truth - York and the Refs bailed us out - which I am very happy for. Baker played badly - we'll see how things develop against lesser defenses and more time in the system. I know the "off the leash" was a popular topic in tweets as if it meant something, but if the best DE in the NFL or our D in general need that to play up then we are in trouble.


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Originally Posted by bbrowns32
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That roughing-the-passer call in the last minute was brutal! We caught one huge break there. Even with the 'W', I don't feel great about it.....

Burns went helmet to helmet with Brissett. That's a pretty easy call, even though the commentators mentioned it as a bad call. Even so, the DB leveled our WR, I believe Peoples-Jones, when he had clearly seen the ball hit the ground with plenty of time to pull up and then proceeded to level him. That should have been called either way as well.

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More than anything else, I am so happy we won this game due to all the negativity the team has received. it's one thing to receive it from the national media, it's another to receive it from fans who chose one player over the team. We won. You lost!

Only nobody actually did that while you continue to lie about it. It's about a sexual predator being signed to lead this team for then next five years.


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Wondering why a poster who said he isn't rooting for the Browns, and did not watch the game is commenting on this thread? My guess he is probably trashing posters who are Browns fans and making excuses as to why we won.

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Originally Posted by DaveyD
If it weren't for the 2 blown coverages and the lucky bounce to McCaferty on Baker' 3rd muffed snap on 3rd and long, Bakers QBR would have been in the single digits. To think otherwise is silly. I was a huge Baker fan when he was here and it was tough rooting against him but I love the Browns more than Baker. That being said, I think he will do just fine in Carolina.

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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
Wondering why a poster who said he isn't rooting for the Browns, and did not watch the game is commenting on this thread? My guess he is probably trashing posters who are Browns fans and making excuses as to why we won.

And we all keep wondering why you continue to lie on the board. Ah, so many questions yet so few answers.

Obviously you lack the ability to differentiate between "rooting" for a team and being a "fan/fanatic" of a team. But then you love to make things up and lie so I shouldn't be surprised.


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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
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Some people talk about the game. Other people talk about other posters.


rofl rolleyes

There are several of these but just for some more context.

Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
Wondering why a poster who said he isn't rooting for the Browns, and did not watch the game is commenting on this thread? My guess he is probably trashing posters who are Browns fans and making excuses as to why we won.


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j/c:

Can't say much that hasn't been said.

But I hope as the season goes on, the TEs might be become more of an option for Brissett. I understand why Njoku was helping out with the blocking yesterday because we were a man down on the OL and that technically Bryant had 4 targets, but if Brissett can find one of those big guys he's comfortable with on a consistent basis moving forward, I think either can be reliable, mid to long yards chain mover. As the play book opens up, I suspect this might happen.

What could Jakeem Grant have brought to the game? I would've liked to have found out.

One win in the bank. No complaints.

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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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One thing that I don't think has been mentioned is that once again, Stefanski did a great job of managing the clock.

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He's very good at that for sure.

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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
Not to mention Bryan’s flag was crap. People want to talk about the roughing the passer call on Brissett, but that one was just as egregious … if not more so
Hate the rule, not the call.


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Stefanski’s best attribute is his game management especially at the end of the game. It oftentimes starts 1-2 drives before the final one


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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This is not a bad call as some suggested. It is clearly the crown of his helmet to his helmet. It doesn’t even have to be the crown according to the rules.

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On a broadcast they were focused on the defenders hand as they thought that was how contact was made to the head. They definitely didn't see/consider the helmet before moving on to the next play.


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Terry McAuley, the former NFL official, said the roughing the passer call on JB was the right call.

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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
Terry McAuley, the former NFL official, said the roughing the passer call on JB was the right call.

Did Terry say anything about the fake spike, spike which was the play before the FG attempt? The penalty that the refs didn't know the rules for?


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Myles Garrett earns the highest PFF grade of any player in Week 1


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September 12, 2022 1:12 pm ET

Myles Garrett had himself quite a Sunday afternoon in Charlotte. The Browns defensive end was all over the stat sheet against the Panthers in Cleveland’s thrilling win:

Two sacks, four tackles, three TFLs, one forced fumble, one pass defender, six QB hurries of former teammate Baker Mayfield.



Garrett’s impact on the game was undeniable. The film grade reinforces just how awesome Garrett was against the Panthers. No. 95 registered the single highest overall game grade of any NFL player in Week 1 (pending Monday Night Football) from Pro Football Focus.

PFF graded Garrett with a 94.4 grade for the game. That tops veteran EDGE Jerry Hughes, who logged an impressive 93.6 game grade in his debut with the Houston Texans. Much of Garrett’s success came at the expense of the Panthers’ first-round rookie tackle, Ikem Ekwonu, who was on the hook for both of Garrett’s sacks. The overall grade would have been even higher if not for a charted missed tackle on Garrett.

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/12/myles-garrett-earns-highest-pff-grade-week-1/

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''We determined that stepping back does not disqualify the quarterback from spiking the ball, and we allowed him to do that by rule,'' referee Brad Rogers said in a pool report.

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Terry McAuley, the former NFL official, said the roughing the passer call on JB was the right call.

Did Terry say anything about the fake spike, spike which was the play before the FG attempt? The penalty that the refs didn't know the rules for?

That was definitely intentional grounding. You can’t fake a spike and then spike it.

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I don't think these two things have been mentioned.

1. Did anyone else notice that we used Chubb and Hunt together a lot yesterday?

2. Did anyone else notice that we brought Dunn in on several plays and went w/6 offensive linemen?

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Terry McAuley, the former NFL official, said the roughing the passer call on JB was the right call.

Did Terry say anything about the fake spike, spike which was the play before the FG attempt? The penalty that the refs didn't know the rules for?

we definitely got away with that one for sure.


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2. Did anyone else notice that we brought Dunn in on several plays and went w/6 offensive linemen?


This is interesting. We liked to do this a lot with Hubbard (back when he was healthy).


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