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Magic number decreasing. Guards are on fire


"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. DPJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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The Guardians are incredibly resiliant. Down 3-1 and cam back to tie it up the next inning. Blow the lead in the 10th to have the game tied back up at 5-5. Proceed to blow the doors open in the top of the 11th to take a 10-5 lead. The Guardians broke the White Sox that inning. Rosario stole 3rd base and Moncado was so defeated he never covered the bag, didn't see the catcher throw the ball and Rosario waltzed in for the 10th run.

The Guardians didn't allow the blown call by the ump in 7th inning when Rosario scored but was called out at the plate to get them down.

Man does this team play hard and run the hell out of the bases.

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Great win.

Dodgers payroll $203m

Guardians payroll $57m.

Not sure if many understand how hard it is to overcome that kind of difference.

Amazing accomplishment by the Guardians. It is damn shame ownership is so weak.

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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
Magic number decreasing. Guards are on fire

Actually, it would decrease more than YTBF mentioned since we won and the Sox lost. It would have been a 2 game swing last night.


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Tito is the straw that stirs that drink. Easily the best manager they've had. If he had the payroll Hargrove had to work with we'd have a few rings by now IMO


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Originally Posted by leadtheway
Tito is the straw that stirs that drink. Easily the best manager they've had. If he had the payroll Hargrove had to work with we'd have a few rings by now IMO

Maybe, maybe not. Tito is good at getting the most out of players. I am not sure that with the players Grover had you could get all that much more. That lineup was stacked. I don't think that Hargrove made dumb decisions that got covered by his players talent.

I will say that Hargrove probably wouldn't have this team in 1st place.


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Nice cup of coffee move for a top prospect.

As long as we are in a pennant race I don't know how much we will play the kid. Hopefully we can stretch this out a bit more, because this isn't over, and allow the kid to get some starts and at bats.

A nice reward for a nice job at AAA and a good jump for the kid heading in to spring training. It's big time for the player. If nothing else his name makes the almanac with 1 at bat or mound appearance, which never goes away. You can always say you played in the big leagues and can point to the almanac to prove it..good for him.


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Arias has been playing quite a bit of first base lately in the minors. Maybe he can end the Owen Miller experience. Brennan has been mashing down in the minors. Love to see the Guardians give these young guys opportunities. Brennan is in the lineup tonight.


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Cleveland up 5-0 going to the bottom of the 3rd.


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6-0 Tribe


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8-1 in the 7th, after a Josh Naylor HR.


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McKenzie is dealing. 13 strikeouts.

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Cleveland wins 8-2. Magic number at 7. laugh


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Guardians a winner. Magic # is now 7.

Fun listening to Kipnis in the booth tonight.






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They are about as close to the finish as the Browns were to victory Sunday.

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Magic number now to 5. Cleveland sweeps the Sox. laugh


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Playoff percentage 99.9

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Tribe pitching... ONE WALK in the three game series.


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What a week for the Guards!


"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. DPJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Just bought my tickets to game 2 of the Wild Card series and game 2 of the ALDS (should they advance). Cannot wait for postseason baseball!

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Love it!


"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. DPJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Playoff percentage 99.9

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This is where the Browns would say "Hold my beer."


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Congrats on your Guardians! Looks like they will win the AL central!

My Braves are in a battle with the Mets in the NL East.


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I think the Braves and Mets will come down to the last day


"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. DPJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I am so proud of the Guards. Damn.

At the trade deadline I was really angry. It felt like the ownership and management gave up on a good young team. Contreras was there for trade. Zip, nada, nothing.

No move at all.

And this team keep chugging. Get down. Come back.

When it was crunch time. They delivered.

Bravo

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How the Guardians turned the AL Central race into a one-team sprint


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On the first day of spring training, Terry Francona called for a meeting with Jose Ramirez. That conversation between a manager and his star third baseman, way back in March, would set the tone for the surprising success of the youngest team in baseball -- a Cleveland Guardians club that is on the verge of winning the American League Central.

Francona asked the ultra-talented Ramirez to simply play hard and with passion throughout the upcoming season because the Guardians weren't exactly constructed to homer their way to the postseason.

"I told him, 'This is how we have to play, everyone follows your lead,'" Francona recalled while sitting in the visitor's dugout at Guaranteed Rate Field in Chicago earlier this week. "And I said, 'If you don't do it, I can't ask a bunch of young guys to do it.'"

Ramirez was already known by his teammates to play 'with his hair on fire' and they have followed suit, specializing in a brand of baseball built around contact, running the bases and playing defense that is atypical in 2022.

The results have been near historic for a roster of players whose average age is just 26 years old. The Guardians are on track to become the youngest team in the wild-card era to not only make the postseason but also to win a division.


"I don't know if you can put an age on being competitive," Francona said.

And even before the team proved anything this season, Cleveland's brass knew one thing about its squad going into 2022: It was going to be full of opportunity for a group of talented young players.

"We made some deliberate choices, even going back to the offseason, to give some of these young players opportunities to go out and contribute," president of baseball operations Chris Antonetti said. "To their credit, a lot of them have stepped forward and made a meaningful impact."

But as Francona says, no one has a 'crystal ball' and it came together faster than anyone could have expected. Except maybe the Guardians' star player himself.

"Those guys are very talented," Ramirez said through the team interpreter. "They won a lot in the minors so they know how to win. I'm not surprised by their performance this year."

Second baseman Andres Gimenez, shortstop Amed Rosario and left fielder Steven Kwan are three of those players who have become major contributors at a young age.

The two infielders came to Cleveland together in a blockbuster trade for Francisco Lindor, while Kwan was a little-known fifth-round pick in 2018. Batting leadoff, Kwan has set the table for a lineup that ranks 29th in home runs but has also struck out fewer times than any team in the majors.

"It's refreshing to see that kind of baseball," Kwan said. "It starts with Tito [Francona]. He felt if we had a chance, we had to play the game the right way. We've been taking that to heart."

Kwan called Francona the "GOAT" for his managing style. One of the 63-year-old veteran manager's best traits, according to those who know him best, is his ability to adapt a team to maximize its strengths while minimizing its weaknesses.

The young Guardians have learned winning baseball while dealing with the grind of a long season. It's not an easy task and Francona has prodded when the moment has called for it. Kwan recalled a time after a win over Minnesota.

"He called me into his office, which he normally doesn't do," Kwan said. "And he pulls up a video and it's a runner on first and I hit a single to right. The runner goes first to third and the right fielder sails the ball and I'm standing on first.

"He asks me why I didn't take second base? I told him I hadn't had a hit in while and I got to first and I was happy to be there. He was like 'No kid, that's not what we're about. If we're going to do this we're going to do it the right way.'

"That stayed with me."


Mixed in with those teachable moments, Cleveland's clubhouse has been filled with lively celebrations fueled by a handful of dramatic victories, including several huge come-from-behind wins and extra-inning affairs. Perhaps none defined Cleveland's season better than an early May thriller when the Guardians used a six-run ninth to pull even with the White Sox 8-8 before a three-run 11th sealed the deal. An emotional Josh Naylor hit home runs in both innings and it proved to the youth in Cleveland that they could go toe-to-toe with the reigning division winner.

Those kinds of victories began to pile up, including a 15-inning win last Saturday over Minnesota and another 11-inning one on Tuesday in Chicago. In fact, the Guardians beat up their division rivals during the entire season, combining to go 24-13 against their closest competitors and 12-4 in extra innings overall.

"Everyone is saying we're not supposed to be doing this," starter Shane Bieber said. "And maybe that was the story coming in early. But not now. It's a different brand of baseball, and we're enjoying playing it, and we're doing it really well."

Bieber smiled and nodded his head when Ramirez's name came up. Clubhouse conversations often lead back to the five-tool player.

"What I find so special and invaluable about him is the way he plays the game," Bieber said. "It's hard to put into words. For our superstar to play the way he does, with that infectious energy, and putting his body on the line and doing it every day, with the intent to win, he really sets the tone."

Ramirez is a first-to-third machine, yet another way he epitomizes the Guardians' unique brand of baseball. In their just completed series against the White Sox, Cleveland basically ran them out of contention for the division title.

"It might be a little frustrating for our opponents and when you have so many young guys watching him [Ramirez] hustle like that, they think, 'Why can't I do that?'" Bieber said.

They can and they have. Not surprisingly, the Guardians lead the league in going from first to third on a single. It's just one trait which has them poised for an October run. Cleveland has five players with 15 or more stolen bases, the most in baseball and the most for the franchise since 1919.

"They are young but they don't back down from challenges," Francona said. "All the things that we've tried to live by, they try to do it."


Shaw believes the foundation was set years ago while Cleveland was going through its last window of contention. It included a World Series appearance in 2016. Several current players were in the minors or entering the organization at the time -- and now are on the verge of getting their first chance to play in the postseason.

"Tito has been at the helm the entire run," Shaw said. "We were winning and everyone saw how it's done. Now it's happening again."


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Guardians win again, and the Sox and Twins both lose.


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Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan
Guardians win again, and the Sox and Twins both lose.


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Ramirez is a first-to-third machine, yet another way he epitomizes the Guardians' unique brand of baseball. In their just completed series against the White Sox, Cleveland basically ran them out of contention for the division title.

"It might be a little frustrating for our opponents and when you have so many young guys watching him [Ramirez] hustle like that, they think, 'Why can't I do that?'" Bieber said.

They can and they have. Not surprisingly, the Guardians lead the league in going from first to third on a single. It's just one trait which has them poised for an October run. Cleveland has five players with 15 or more stolen bases, the most in baseball and the most for the franchise since 1919.

"They are young but they don't back down from challenges," Francona said. "All the things that we've tried to live by, they try to do it."

It's a beautiful sight watching this team run the bases. Guardians stole four bases tonight.


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The Kinderguardians are kicking butt and playing great baseball


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Turned it on at the right time


"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. DPJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Nice read.

In an era of waiting for 3 run homeruns, it's refreshing to see a team play station to station, create runs baseball. Hitting homers isn't the only way to score 4-5-6 runs. A walk, bunt and single can score a run.

If you don't have 4-5 guys throughout the lineup who can legit hit 30+ homers and drive the gaps you best play some small ball.

Today you have everybody thinking about launch angle. That's great for the true power hitter, but not so much for the other players. Today you have plenty of player who hit 20 or so homers but in doing so it costs 25 points on their batting average, so they hit 260 rather than 285.

A few studies have been made. The one I reference was by Ron Polk who coached at Mississippi State for many years. One of the best managers ever.

If a player hit nothing but ground balls. Everything from a bunt to a hot smash on the ground, the player would hit 300. If a player hit nothing but fly balls, everything from a weak foul ball pop-up to the catcher to looping single or the longest home run ever seen, you would hit 250.

If you hit nothing but line drives.. Anything from that liner that is caught by the 3rd baseman or that shot that never gets much over 20 feet high that is caught or just barely clears the fence, a player would hit 750.

It's pretty clear that line drives and ground balls is the way to play the game except when you are trying to lift the ball to allow a runner to tag, in which case it's a sac fly and doesn't count against your average. Except for the true power guys, this launch angle stuff is ruining hitters.


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I remember when there was the question if Jose was going to be leaving.

My brother told me. He may quit being a fan of the team. Jose brings so much to the game. A unique player for sure.

You look at him physically and you would not think he can what he does.

He is a great player.

I sure hope people start to fill that stadium.

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Cleveland wins 4-2, and the Sox are down 7-2 in the 8th. Could be down to a magic number of 1 in an hour or less. laugh


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Cleveland wins 4-2, and the Sox are down 7-2 in the 8th. Could be down to a magic number of 1 in an hour or less. laugh

Officially ONE!!!

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