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Haha, torching clowns at the light. I will say, I don't have the "performance pack" on mine, but my buddy who does almost broke my damn neck when he hit the "gas" on his car. The electric torque is something else...


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That’s the spirt of the party of law and order. Lol


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Not to mention there is no loss of acceleration or more electric consumption at altitude. Making electric motors for flying commercial airlines even more attractive.


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Not to mention there is no loss of acceleration or more electric consumption at altitude. Making electric motors for flying commercial airlines even more attractive.

A lot of talk, but Airbus is definitely pushing the hydrogen envelope.

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Why would I buy a car that doesn't meet my needs?

They certainly won't meet the needs of everyone at the present time and I understand that. The hybrid option is also available that will. What I will say is with the fast charge option you can now fully charge an EV in ten minutes. I don't believe that a lot of people will see that as a huge obstacle.


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Give me a gas guzzling V8 all day long! thumbsup

Saudi Arabia, Iran and the entire middle eastern OPEC nations thank you for your support.


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While looking at the fuel cell stuff, I came across an article that said it might make more sense for airlines to go the fuel cell route vs electrical. If so, I'm all for it. Too bad that Airbus is kicking Boeing's bus across the board right now, but Boeing made that bed and has to sleep in it through their own selfishness, recklessness and greed.


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Because I'm not just going to stand by and watch “my all” freedoms get taken away.

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Lol … “my all” …and that truck ain’t licensed boy. Keep it on the farm and you won’t loose “ur all” lol… freedoms son.

The hell you say. I get popped, I just tell them I'm on the way to pick up a load of hay! That there PBR will sit upright in the glove box if you stuff 'er in there real careful.

You could always try to play the sovereign citizen card.

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Originally Posted by dawglover05
While looking at the fuel cell stuff, I came across an article that said it might make more sense for airlines to go the fuel cell route vs electrical. If so, I'm all for it. Too bad that Airbus is kicking Boeing's bus across the board right now, but Boeing made that bed and has to sleep in it through their own selfishness, recklessness and greed.

That's funny, I recently ran across this:

Boeing puts $450M into company building electric, autonomous, passenger-carrying planes

And thought, hmmm... not sure I would willingly jump on one of those. But hey, what's a half-billion, right? lol


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Oh goodness...as long as it's the other company that does it, and hopefully they stay independent of Boeing.

Before Boeing merged with McDonnell Douglas, you had two companies that could build decent planes. Now, you have one company that cannot, either commercially or for the military.

I treat it like the neighbor, Lawrence, from Office Space:

Boeing: "Hey Wisk, you wanna come over and hang out?"

Wisk: "No thanks, man....don't want you effin' up my life, too..."


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What I will say is with the fast charge option you can now fully charge an EV in ten minutes.

I wonder if there is any truth to a few articles I have seen that says fast charging wears out the batteries a lot faster?


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What I will say is with the fast charge option you can now fully charge an EV in ten minutes.

I wonder if there is any truth to a few articles I have seen that says fast charging wears out the batteries a lot faster?

some of the message boards with the EV guys are torn on that. what IS known is you dont want to charge the battery to 100% all the time. but there's settings in some of the EV cars that allows you to set a limit by % on how much it gets charged.

so typically out in the streets, you dont charge it past 85-90%, but when you park it at home and such, top it off.


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I always have mine set to charge to 90% unless I’m about to go on a big road trip. It’s extremely easy to do on the app.

If you go on a long road trip and use the car’s map function, it routes you to all the super chargers you need along the way. Before you get there, you see a prompt that the car is “preparing the battery for fast charging” so I’m not exactly sure what all that entails, but I’m guessing it’s a good thing for the battery’s longevity.

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While looking at the fuel cell stuff, I came across an article that said it might make more sense for airlines to go the fuel cell route vs electrical. If so, I'm all for it. Too bad that Airbus is kicking Boeing's bus across the board right now, but Boeing made that bed and has to sleep in it through their own selfishness, recklessness and greed.

That's funny, I recently ran across this:

Boeing puts $450M into company building electric, autonomous, passenger-carrying planes

And thought, hmmm... not sure I would willingly jump on one of those. But hey, what's a half-billion, right? lol

They are about 20-30 years from electric planes.


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curious to see how this goes...

https://topelectricsuv.com/news/tesla/tesla-semi-all-we-know-feb-2022/

Without the payload, the Semi quad-motor could accelerate like a mid-range sports car with a 0-60 mph time of just around 5 seconds.


4680 Cells
The Tesla Semi should use 4680 cells, at least in one version. The new type of cell measures 80 mm in length and around 46 mm in diameter, hence the 4680 name. At the Tesla Battery Day 2020, Andrew Baglino, the company’s Senior Vice President for Powertrain and Energy Engineering, said that 4680 cells give five times the energy, six times the power, and a 16% higher range as compared to the current cells.


Automatic Tire Inflation System
Tesla could offer the Semi with an Automatic Tire Inflation System (ATIS), as per a report from electrek. The company has received USPTO’s grant for the patent for this technology, which could automatically revise the tire pressure and keep it at the optimum level. electrek has seen the patent application and says that it mentioned John Furtado as the inventor of the technology. Furtado has worked on the Semi’s brake controls, brakes, pneumatics, tires, wheel ends, and wheels.
An ATIS is not new technology, but Tesla is improving it. Its version of the ATIS substantially reduces contamination in the air stream. As the air stream is purer, the ATIS’ life increases, and it requires maintenance less frequently.


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I can't wait for the Zombie movie that has people running around risking life and limb for batteries.


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Whether we like it or not...times are a changing..! The American people either change with the times and embrace the new technological advances that are coming or they can fear what they do not understand.

As with any new technology, there are going to be challenges to overcome but it appears that the auto industry has done a decent job of doing what they can to make the roll-out of the EV a success. First of all, it looks as though American car companies (Ford/GM) have produced some good vehicles that work well and provide the quality and performance the consumers expected.

I had my first experience with EVs yesterday, as my son brought the family (of 4) and the dog down for our Thanksgiving Day celebration in his recently purchased EV, a Chevy Bolt. The trip was 125 miles plus all the test drives given to those of us who had never experienced a drive or ride in an EV. The charge meter showed that he still had about 2/3 of a charge remaining once he got home last night, after a round trip of 155 miles. I have no idea how that translates into mpg or should I say mpc (charge).

It's nearly impossible to calculate miles per charge because during braking, the Chevy Bolt actually charges its own batteries. Because of this re-charge capability, the Bolt actually gets it's best mileage in stop and go traffic.

You get in, the driver pushes the ON button and lights for the various sensors and electronic systems come on...but you hear nothing, unless the volume for the radio was left on..'turned up' by the previous driver...lol. But really, you hear nothing when the ON button is pushed. Once all the systems are powered up, you are ready to roll...still you hear "nothing", once you select 'reverse' and back up. There was no gear shift..just push buttons to select reverse or drive.

Once you select drive, there is no shifting noise or engine rev as the car is shifted from reverse to drive (forward) and accelerates...it does not shift but remains in 'forward' gear, but I could not hear any electric motor rev as we accelerated. As other EV drivers have experienced, the acceleration and performance of the Bolt was outstanding and not lacking for any situation a driver might experience in freeway driving. The engine package for this model of the Chevy Bolt is rated at 200 HP according to the vehicle manual.

This Bolt was equipped an automatic braking, single pedal mode that allows the car to brake itself when the driver takes their foot off of the accelerator. The car will stop itself to a "complete stop" without the driver doing anything but removing their foot from the accelerator. Also, while driving in this "single pedal mode", the Chevy Bolt is recharging its own batteries.

The Chevy Bolt my son selected was "loaded" with all the bells and whistles a driver could imagine (imo).

...automatic heated and cooled seats with an automatic or manually controlled option.
...visual camera assist video cameras everywhere...-Front and back cameras...-blindside driver and passenger cameras...-plus a 360% overhead camera.
...There may have been more video cameras that I was not aware of...but what else could a driver need to see..?

Also, concerning the noise factor of the Chevy Bolt... it is so quiet that Chevy had to add something to make noise so the Bolt could be recognized "by sound", to assist those who are blind..so they could recognize that a EV vehicle was coming via the road.

I'm sure there were some features that I missed in my short 1/2 hr introduction to the Chevy Bolt...but I must admit, I WAS IMPRESSED..!





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"during braking, the Chevy Bolt actually charges its own batteries. Because of this re-charge capability, the Bolt actually gets it's best mileage in stop and go traffic."


fun fact... BMW started down this path in 2005/06 with their intelligent alternator control with regenerative braking. It helped reduce fuel consumption by about 4%. I think they introduced this to their f01/n63 platform in 2008. It was overshadowed by all of the issues they had with the n63 grenading itself from oil consumption issues in the Hot V.


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It's a good thing technology doesn't sand still.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
It's a good thing technology doesn't sand still.


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You got me.


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Just pokin'. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. wink


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I did. I hope you did as well.


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Who needs electric cars. There's a better plan.

Make them suffer for their climate sins!!

Less Anesthesia in Surgeries Could Reduce the Carbon Footprint of Hospitals, Experts Suggest

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Something I never thought of.. The distance you can travel on a charge is severely affected by temperature. Over Christmas my nephew, who owns a Chevy Bolt, couldn’t make it from Cleveland to Youngstown on a charge. He stopped in Streetsboro for an hour to charge, then In Girard. Girard was out of the way but he couldn’t make it driving straight to New Middletown. He said the chargers were working slow as well.

Now Christmas it was frigid. I’m not sure how much his distance per charge is affected by normal winter weather. I do know he likes the car.


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A Chevy bolt… rofl Sorry but absolutely the worst vehicle ever. I believe GM (no not you GM dawg poke) put out this pos to make EV’s look bad.

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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
A Chevy bolt… rofl Sorry but absolutely the worst vehicle ever. I believe GM (no not you GM dawg poke) put out this pos to make EV’s look bad.

Do they use some different battery type than every other EV?

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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
A Chevy bolt… rofl Sorry but absolutely the worst vehicle ever. I believe GM (no not you GM dawg poke) put out this pos to make EV’s look bad.
I never said he had good taste


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If you want to simplify it to "same type of battery" you could say that about a Duracell and a cheap ass of brand battery. All gas cars use combustion engines too. But as per usual, you get what you pay for.


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Not sure but the Bolt only had a 200 mile range I believe. Turn on the heater and lights in the cold and you may get 50. And the braking was horrid, you have to stomp on ‘em.. The dashboard is nice but the interior is cheap. You get what you pay for. And in this case not even that.

I do know Tesla uses a fuse of sort on each battery cell. There are hundreds of roughly AA size lithium battery cells in the battery pack. When one battery fails the link is broken to remove that battery from the elec system. If this link maintains, that would cause the entire system to drain and fail much faster.

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Who needs electric cars. There's a better plan.

Make them suffer for their climate sins!!

Less Anesthesia in Surgeries Could Reduce the Carbon Footprint of Hospitals, Experts Suggest

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I don't like to post in this forum, but that article is crazy. My wife is out shopping w/our daughter, but I can't wait to tell her about this proposal. I don't think she is going to react favorably to the thought of giving her patients less anesthesia. The whole idea is pretty whacked because most people know that giving a patient too much anesthesia is a huge no-no. It's not like hitting someone on the head w/a hammer to keep them knocked out "longer."

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Noboby wants to hit school kids in school zones 20mph right? of course.
I mean, I think people are missing the point of letting the overlorts control every waking split>second of your conscious life,

so, OF Course, unless anyone wants to be called a MON STER that wants to endanger school kids in 20mph crosswalks , and what the heck would be wrong with those people, hmm

then, of course NOBODY could object to the gov't overlorts if they would one day plan to install
engine governors that reduce cars speeds to whatever speeds the overlorts demand, and for whatever reason they demand,

on the technology that every car sold in the kingdom be fitted with a receiver for the broadcasted /narrow>casted speed limit.
Many trucks already have engine governors that don't let them drive over 60++ mph.

Why not just let the government decide by whatever street you are on that none of the cars passing by have the physical ability to drive any faster than the government sets, for any reason, emergency or whatever,
I mean, b/c you aren't a monster that wants to endanger the school kids in the crosswalks right?
That is what the evil controlling nature of the anti Christ government will get to if we're around long enough to witness it.

electric cars are just another step down that road.


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So are you trying to say that government overlords are forcing car manufacturers to produce electric vehicles?


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If you want to simplify it to "same type of battery" you could say that about a Duracell and a cheap ass of brand battery. All gas cars use combustion engines too. But as per usual, you get what you pay for.

Yes, if you want to dumb it down so you can understand it.

The batteries used in ALL EVs are not cold friendly due to the chemistry. It doesn't matter if it is a Tesla or a Chevy. It is in the chemistry.

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I doubt anyone cares, but I did talk to my wife about the anesthesia being released from hospitals. She had a couple of things to say.

One is that it is indeed being released straight into the air by hospitals and she thinks it could be damaging to humans because of how anesthesia affects our bodies. Decreases blood pressure, the nervous system, etc. She believes that new ways should be developed to capture the gasses instead of releasing them directly into the air. Of course, money is probably the reason why that has not happened yet.

Secondly, she said let the people who are promoting the idea of less anesthesia be the first to participate in receiving less during surgeries. She said it's a very exact science of how much anesthesia to administer. You can't not administer too little or too much. For us layman, I reckon it isn't something like us going to the deli and say "give me a 1/2 lb of salami. No wait, make that 3/4 of a pound." Anesthesia is very precise and intricate in how much to apply given a huge amount of factors in regards to the particular patient.

One last thing for folks who might not know much about anesthesia. Here is one thing you never want to do, but yet, many patients still ask for it. If your anesthesiologist or anesthetist offer you a "local," take it. Don't say you want to be knocked out because you don't want to see the procedure. Too many things can go wrong while you are anesthetized.

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