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Just for the purpose of accuracy:

QBR: JB at 61.4 [9th overall. BM at 15.4 [32nd overall.]

Rating: JB 87.1. BM 75.

TD: JB and BM both w/4.

Int: JB w/2. BM w/3.

Sacks: JB @ 5. BM @ 11.

Comp. %: JB at 64.6. BM at 54.7.



As to What I Saw.

I put most of it on the Post Game thread, but to me, the biggest difference in the game was that the game could have went either way and it came down to the trenches. Not the playcalling. Not the skilled guys. Not the QB play It was about the offensive and defensive lines of both teams. We won some. They won some. Again, we could have very easily won that game, but at the end of the day, they had a slight advantage in the trenches [on this particular day] and it resulted in us losing a very close game.

Hi Eo

Last week I wrote that JB was starting to make me wonder about my original thoughts on him. Now after yesterday I'm back to where I was all along...


But for me, it's not all on him. some of the play calling, like at the end of the first drive, made me think, geez, what happened to always putting up points when you can.

Without a doubt, not one of my most fun sunday afternoons watching the Browns.

Late game collapse.. Yikes...

The Browns had a prime opportunity to capture 1st place
In the North. The QB they faced is a 1st Rd flop on
His 3rd team. So the Falcons put the game in the hands
Of their RBs..and guess what it worked
Stefanski needs to start coaching with more feel
Than analytics all the time.
He is a very robotic coach.

The Browns are lacking tenacity on defense
Everyone is a athlete but no one plays with
Fire or intensity. But it's been that way since 1999
The Browns have no tone setters on that side
Of the ball.
This game also showed the shortcomings on offense
Their are no playmakers outside of Hunt and Chubb
Wake me up when DPJ reaches the end zone
Felton and Schwartz only reach the field when it's
Warm-ups.

The dline got pimp slapped up and down

He does that a lot. His "feel" for what's happening and what may transpire is poor. We need a real head coach. Not a wanna be HC who is stuck on being an OC...with his head buried in that Waffle House menu of his. He's not the guy...we need to upgrade that position. Ski did a nice job with this mess of a franchise in getting us away from the Freddie-madness and dealing with the cancer WR and departed QB drama / ineffectiveness...but he's hit his ceiling...time to move up and on. Gotta figure out how to keep Callahan and Stump...but that's it.

I saw Ward look like a high school player (again) and I saw Myles get the same number of sacks this week as last week...same # of solo tackles too. "Leaders" that play poorly and make themselves unavailable won't ever lead a dominant defense.

I saw I. Thomas take on a double team and maintain his run responsibility...so they know that's a thing. I saw Winfrey destroy a guy.

I saw that regardless of who has the "green dot" we still can't get our coverages right in Q4.

I saw Jacoby be...well...Jacoby. Can't take that sack...then turn around and throw into double coverage to end the game.

These next (7) games are gonna be brutal...and our new QB will not have played in (100) weeks for the 8th game after those (7).

Why is Felton on the 53 roster (and active) if DPJ will field punts when Rogers doesn't?

Why is Mond on the roster?

How long will Berry roll with these DTs?

We looked like a team that was missing 3/4 of its starting DL. Couldn't get hardly any pressure. Considering that, the D actually held up pretty well. Unfortunately, there was no Myles to chase down Mariota and eventually guys got open instead of those plays putting ATL behind the chains.

Jacoby got greedy at the end. He tried to pick all the yardage back up in one play. Forced it into coverage. Atlanta did a good job against the screen game and put us behind the chains several times including setting up that long distance to go INT. Sometimes the other team just has the right calls to beat your call. We got caught like that a few times it appeared.

I thought Bell made some nice catches. I'm all for him getting some of Bryant's snaps, especially in the red zone. Try to lighten the box down there. Bryant isn't drive blocking anybody. Spread them out, and all our RBs need is a little crease. Crack down on a DE with WR motion, and I'll take Chubb or Hunt one on one with a CB. Or at least use Bryant in that role. Inline inside the 5, he's pretty useless blocking.

Okay tab. I won't pollute your thread any longer. Wishing you good health.

He just can't help himself.

The Browns really missed Myles and Clowney.. a lot of those late runs for big chunks of yards were simple off-tackle runs that bounced outside and our DEs were always crashing down and there was nobody out there to turn the play back inside.. I'm not about firing anybody, we knew going in that our DL and LB up the middle in the run stopping spots was a liability.. well, it showed.

As for Baltimore, they aren't made a Harbaugh, there is a lot of rumbling about them wanting to fire the DC because of the two fairly large blown leads this year.

Tab, my thing is that even with clowney and garrett on the field, the middle of our line is atrocious. JOK and taki are good LBs, but damn our DTs do not eat up blocks and are routinely getting to the second level and getting their hands on our LBs. i'm glad we have a secondary that isn't afraid to hit, but the lack of talent in the interior is leaving our entire defense exposed.

What about Baker?

We're just an average NFL team, a middle-of-the-pack team at this point. We could get better or have an awful season still. We've seen good flashes and a lot of not-so-good moments so far. This last game was others having tape on JB now in the offense, and I won't say bad coaching, but coaching damn sure had a hand in the loss. We also have a lot of players out, so that plays into it too. We are what we are.

Like you, I thought this would be our year at a run too, going into and earlier the offseason I felt good about where we were at. I think that was one part of me getting so mad. The other part was obvious, but that is being addressed so no need to do it here. With how you have felt lately, I know that feeling had to be even worse for you. I 100% get it. But like you, I've put it behind me and still have hopes we will do it it eventually, there's always always always next year in Cleveland. I hope we're both here when it happens EO. Good to see you posting regularly again.

I don't wish to fight w/you. You've been through a lot. I will say that I responded the way I did due to this quote:



You then proceeded to criticize Jacoby's play. I was trying to point out that JB is playing better than Baker. I think that is football talk. However, if that upsets you.......I won't post on your thread anymore. It's not worth fighting about. I just want you to be healthy and happy.

I saw a team, where we yelled and shouted all offseason that we had nothing at DT, get the ball ran down their throats by a team that had absolutely no passing threat to really respect.

We've made subsequent roster moves after the game for other positions, but STILL refuse to address that glaring weakness.

This FO willfully ignored holes on the team last year that cost us games. They are doing it again this year. Resupplying/reloading at positions that are fine while outright pretending to not see issues at other positions that even Ray Charles would gawk at.

Tell us how you really feel.

I'd probably have to give myself a 5-day suspension if I phrased it the way I might in-person.