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I'll add JOK is a crushing disappointment. Makes no plays. When he's in position, can't bring the guy down. These guys gave up 200+ rushing yards to the worst rushing team in the league. It's laughable.

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I thought the worst call (aside from the 4th and 1) of the game was the little pitch to Hunt with about 50 seconds left. That doomed us to settle for a long FG


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted by Milk Man
j/c...

LOL.


Disrespectful? Myles needs to check himself. He is doing nothing to make a difference. You earn respect, someone ought to tell Garret that


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The Jets, who have the worst coaching staff in the league and a terrible quarterback, are 3-2. What does that make Stefanski?

Want to see a great coach who gets above average results when it's not expected? Check out the Giants.

Want to see a below average coach who gets below average results when it's not expected? Check out the Browns.

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Garrett was double teamed a lot today.


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Originally Posted by Rishuz
The Jets, who have the worst coaching staff in the league and a terrible quarterback, are 3-2. What does that make Stefanski?

Want to see a great coach who gets above average results when it's not expected? Check out the Giants.

Want to see a below average coach who gets below average results when it's not expected? Check out the Browns.

Unfortunately you’re close to the truth.

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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Smart. Tough. Accountable.
Looks good on the team stationary. That's about the only place it applies in this organization. LOL


The Browns finally have a leader in the building. It won't be long before Jim Schwartz is in charge. Thankfully.
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Originally Posted by Swish
and woods has to go. all those yards on the ground we gave up to one of the worst rushing offenses in the league.
He's a genius. He isn't going anywhere. Stefanski doesn't have the guts to get rid of him. So much for accountability on this team. Hollow words from our clueless "leader".


The Browns finally have a leader in the building. It won't be long before Jim Schwartz is in charge. Thankfully.
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If Jacoby Brisset knew where to go with the ball as soon as he decided to pass
while inside the opponents I0 yard line, in the last two games.

the Browns might have won 3 straight including today.

Now is that coaching or what is that?


Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Originally Posted by PastorMarc
I'M TIRED TIRED TIRED OF WATCHING NICK CHUBB STAND ON THE SIDELINES WHEN WE HAVE A SHOT TO WIN >>> STEFANSKI HAS TO ANSWER FOR THAT !!!!
He's got to get better and learn how to put this players in better positions to win. Someday he will figure out that if Chubb is on the field that is a start. He may not be in Cleveland when he figures it out, but that's another discussion for another day. The guy is an idiot who sticks to the process regardless of the outcome. The outcome is what matters and he still hasn't figured that out. But he better figure it out fast or he will be out of a job. I wonder if he has any statistics on that? SMH


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Originally Posted by Milk Man
j/c...

LOL.

Hey Myles go take some driving lessons. Or maybe, just maybe, make a game changing play that results in a win. Until then, just SHUT YOUR MOUTH. Your team lost. Again. And got booed off the field. Again.


The Browns finally have a leader in the building. It won't be long before Jim Schwartz is in charge. Thankfully.
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Post game thoughts: 2 missed field goals.

Stupid game on the line and Brisset screws the pooch

D did oky until, get this - they didn't.

At least Brisset won't turn the ball over at critical times, right?


No reason, other than stupidity, that the Browns aren't undefeated at this point in time.

Tired of it. Glad I didn't throw out some $500 for tickets, the gas money, toll charges, and $ for food, let alone parking and concessions.

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Everything else aside that was going on in the game today...
We had (2) chances within the last 3 minutes at home to get the win and we did not get a point from either drive.

Jacoby's decision on the pass in that situation was-I don't even know what to say-you just can't do that. Hell, he probably could have ran for the touchdown.

And then by some miracle, we get the ball back and get a first down at their 35-and the next three play calls were inexcusable, just horrible.
And with the game on the line, Chubb is not in.

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Originally Posted by The Beast
Originally Posted by Milk Man
j/c...

LOL.

Hey Myles go take some driving lessons. Or maybe, just maybe, make a game changing play that results in a win. Until then, just SHUT YOUR MOUTH. Your team lost. Again. And got booed off the field. Again.


He's becoming the ex QB who plays in Carolina of the Defense !

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Nothing like playing the Browns defense to fix what ails your team offensively. We have to get a new Defensive Coordinator.


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still waiting for Garrett to make a play..a positive one that is. See him over run a run play constantly, or constantly only take the outside on a rush so many times the opposition knows this and has the LT setup inside to push garrett outside creating a nice throwing lane.. Sorry but Clowney is 10x the DE garrett is. But neither being done any favors by Berry and his choices for DT and LB.. Get a Suh in the middle that requires his own double team and watch how much better both DE's are


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Well said sir......well said....


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Just watched the post game presser and they could almost record it and use it from week to week. Same old excuses but never gets fixed. Joe Woods should get a job in a school cafeteria and he would still probably screw that up.

We got shredded by the worse running game in the NFL. That's pathetic.

Looks like York might just be a one hit wonder. 2 missed field goals. either one would have won the game.

Why Chubb is on the sidelines when we need some yards to get closer for a FG is beyond me. That one is on KS.

This team seems to always find a way to lose even when the other team wants to hand you a win. We say "No thank you.....you take it".

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Originally Posted by northlima dawg
Everything else aside that was going on in the game today...
We had (2) chances within the last 3 minutes at home to get the win and we did not get a point from either drive.

Jacoby's decision on the pass in that situation was-I don't even know what to say-you just can't do that. Hell, he probably could have ran for the touchdown.

And then by some miracle, we get the ball back and get a first down at their 35-and the next three play calls were inexcusable, just horrible.
And with the game on the line, Chubb is not in.

None of that should even matter. JB is a backup QB in this league for a reason. They knew that before they ever took the field. The idea was to have a defense that could keep the score down so JB didn’t have to “win” the game. He obviously does not do very well when the game is on the line. Not a starter. With that being said he is doing better than anyone expected and has played well enough to have this team 5-0. Problem is he has zero help. As a matter of fact both other phases are working against him. Another week they trot out that unaccountable mess on the field. They are certainly not the only team that just can’t figure it out but why do they ALWAYS have a team that can’t figure it out? Multiple owners coaches and players all with the same garbage result. It’s maddening.


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We seems to be our own worst enemy.

Bad decisions making in crucial moments from our coaches. Simple mistakes on routine plays. We’re often performing our worst when it matter most.

It’s really hard to be positive when we over and over again lose games that’s winnable.

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I'll leave the post game chat with this ... Stefanski is 2-3 against the easiest schedule in the league. I said this before but he gets extra credit for not looking like a slob, not saying dumb stuff (although that might come to an end as the losses pile up over the next several weeks), and for giving the offense an identity. None of those make him a good head coach. He lost to the Jets with Robert Saleh, the second worst head coach in the league after Rhule, with 1:30 left up by 13 with the Jets having no timeouts. The evidence that he's not a good head coach far outweighs the evidence to the contrary.

But we will have people in here who continue to support the below average results because he can scheme guys open. It's one of the dumbest arguments of all time. Stefanski is wasting so many players primes it's crazy.

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We're just wasting Chubb's career.

I'm beyond angry and frustrated just like everyone else.

I would love to hurrell a water bottle at Haslem right now. Not really, I just need to release some anger. Maybe Joe Woods is a more worthy target.

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It's not Haslam. It's Stefanski. He's not a very good HEAD coach. Watch the Eagles. Watch the Giants. These teams have young head coaches. Watch how their teams play. It's night and day.

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I don't blame the coaching

I feel Priefer needs to help York

I put this loss on two missed FGs

and the only turnover of the game

the JB interception

JB played very well

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we’ve simply left too many points on the board in our losses when you take into account how bad our defense is. We have too little margin for error


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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The 2 missed FG today yes. Also the missed XP against the Jets. 3 losses for a grand total of 6 points. It makes me sick!!!!!! WE are a losing organization, been that way since '99. This is what happens week after week when that is the case.

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Competent coaching has at 5-0, 4-1 at worst
York, bro, all that goodwill from that 1st game kick has been evaporated with your misses. Your heading down the path of Zane Gonzalez. Man I wish we could clone Justin Tucker and bring him here.

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All JB had to do is run. He might have gotten the 1st down but if not, it would have been an easy FG or should have been. JB threw it right to the defender. when he let it go, I could see what was going to happen. IF JB wanted to purposely throw the game away, he couldn't have done it better. We're playing the Pats next week. Last year we got beat 45-7 by them and I really heard it for the next few weeks. I'm getting ready for it again.

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I don't know the stats, but the Chargers had to have had close to 500 yards O....or at least it seemed like it. They just marched up and down the field.


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Originally Posted by boofers20
Competent coaching has at 5-0, 4-1 at worst
York, bro, all that goodwill from that 1st game kick has been evaporated with your misses. Your heading down the path of Zane Gonzalez. Man I wish we could clone Justin Tucker and bring him here.


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I’m no longer a season ticket holder so I’ll include the people who actually pay for this nonsense in my next sentence. Season ticket holders put up with 1-15, 0-16, and around 3 more years of tanking for the product that we have now. A garbage 2-3 team that is poorly coached and was poorly assembled by one of the most overrated front offices in the nfl. You people, the ones who pay lots of money for this, are the ones who should be most enraged. For a sliver of time, it looked like tanking was paying off. The 2018 season gave fans hope and the 2020 season gave us a playoff win. - Everything that has happened before and after those two seasons has been complete crap. And this is what season ticket holders deserve? One stupid wildcard victory in exchange for a decades worth of crap? If this team doesn’t turn this around quick then we might as well start another rebuild at the end of this season. It’s getting clearer and clearer that the most recent rebuild is a complete failure. Fire Andre Berry; Fire Stefanski if this thing doesn’t get fixed quickly.

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There is zero chance the Browns beat the Pats. You would basically be saying Stefanski is going to beat Belichek. We know that ain't happening. The Pats will probably run for 400 yards. After the game Stefanski will say he needs to learn from it.

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Originally Posted by Rishuz
There is zero chance the Browns beat the Pats. You would basically be saying Stefanski is going to beat Belichek. We know that ain't happening. The Pats will probably run for 400 yards. After the game Stefanski will say he needs to learn from it.


Yep, NE shut out Jared Goff and Detroit with their backup QB, Zappe.


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IIRC last time played NE they totally had our number


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
IIRC last time played NE they totally had our number


7-45 jog your memory ?

It was bad !

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I might start having some fun betting against the Browns and making some money.

The Texans are going to have a dope draft pick next year.

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Originally Posted by Rishuz
I might start having some fun betting against the Browns and making some money.

The Texans are going to have a dope draft pick next year.
I’ve done it for a long time … i wont bet before the game, but if the Browns get a lead I’ll put a little money on the other team. Browns got up 14-0 and I put 10 bucks on LA. It eases the pain by .00001%


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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j/c:

This was a heartbreaking loss. Once again, our offense did more than enough to win. The D was terrible and we missed two kicks. The difference between 3 and 2 vs 2 and 3 is huge. Most people thought the Chargers were going to kill us when the schedule came out and it seemed many still felt the same way this past week. We could have won, but we didn't. No excuses.

Some thoughts:

--Jacoby had a very solid game. I like how he puts the ball low and away from the defender most of the time. Very much unlike the last guy here who threw our receivers into harms way. He was very accurate most of the day. However, at the end..........he made a God-awful decision and it should have sealed the game. Terrible decision. No excuses.

--Stefanski called a great game. He had a great balance of pass and run. He exploited the 8 man boxes. I question the call to hand the ball off on 4th and 1 in our own territory. JB is great at sneaking. Other than that, I thought he called a great game. Even the announcer [a former NFL player was marveling over our scheme.]

--Chubb was magnificent again. However, he dropped a pass that probably would have went for a TD.

--The bust, Njoku, had another very good game.

--DPJ is looking good when he gets opportunities.

--Hunt ran hard.

--The OL played well. The center is surprising me. Wills is really improving.

--Cooper looked good.

--I don't care for Bryant.

--Our D blows! I guess we can blame the scheme, but I actually agree--at least in part--w/lead. Our guys are terrible tacklers in space. Man, we are not very agile.

--JOK gets a lot of love, but he isn't all that. He misses a lot of tackles. Takes terrible angles in the passing game.

--Delpit is a good tackler, but does he ever cover anyone.

--Ward is having an off year.

--I did not like the Emerson pick, but this kid can play. He's winning me over. Physical dude who is surprisingly good coverage.

--Cowney had a good game.

--I was disappointed that Myles never made a big play. I will say that he was getting a ton of attention. They showed one play where he just missed Herbert [who stepped up in the pocket] but Myles had to beat the chip from the TE, beat the LT, and then a third guy came over and hit him. Our other guys have to take advantage of that.

--Our punter is awesome!

--Cade York is becoming a problem.

--Herbert is a great QB. He has great pocket presence. Love the way he moves in the pocket to buy time.

--Staley tried to give us the game. What a dumb call when we didn't have any timeouts left. We out-coached them, but lost anyway.

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If I'm an opposing team... I'm running the ball 80% of the game. Browns defense just can't help themselves.


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