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NFL Live just said Ripken's 2,632 game streak that spans 16 years isn't even close to as incredible as Favre 269 game streak.

I understand that Brett Favre has many 280 lb. defensive lineman bearing down on him and maybe this is the baseball lover in me coming out, but I marvel at Ripken's streak. Even Salisbury said Brady or Manning may do it.... NO ONE IN BASEBALL WILL DO THIS!!!!

They argued that Ripken never had any 300 lb. lineman bearing down on him while he fielded a ground ball or just stood there while the ball was hit somewhere else..... Yeah so what. In a league where you play 162 games a season plus some with the playoffs to be able to play through all the little nagging injuries that pile up is amazing. Yes football players get roughed up more than baseball players, but their nagging injuries can be rested for 6 days. In Ripken's case... sprain and ankle...he's playing the next day regardless.

I am not taking away anything from Brett Favre, but come one why are these guys ripping on Cal Ripken for his achievements.

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I don't see either being broken.

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What's it matter ... they're both on roids.

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I remember reading that Ripkins streak actually made it harder on the manager. There were times when the manager would have favored given Ripkin a seat on the bench due to injury, matchups against the pitcher or to just simply rest him. Ripkin also started games but didnt finish them towards the end. im not taking anything away from Ripkin because he was a great player regardless of the streak and showed toughness playing thru injuries but Ripkins streak was almost handed to him towards the end. Kind of like Farve giving up a sack to Strahan.

For a QB to have a streak like that though is amazing. Especailly since alot of GBs vet o-lineman usually dont get resigned and leave via FA. 3 or 4 years ago, they let both guards starting leave in FA. Not to mention the top tier o-lineman Verba

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you think a 16 yr consecutive game streak was given to Cal?


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Favre faces 16 regular season game per year.

Ripken played 162 per year.

Just the odds of having the flu on any given day ...... waking up with a stiff back ...... or any number of "minor" yet debilitating injuries that can make it damn near impossible to make it our for any of those 162 per year.

Favre faces more imminent peril, and risk of more serious injury as a QB ...... but Ripken faced far more exposure to everyday illness and/or injury in a far greater number of games per season. (and less recovery time between games as well)

I'd be willing to bet that if Favre had to go play again today he might have trouble being ready to go after his injuries suffered in the Dallas game. Of course, Ripken also might have seen his streak thrown into jeopardy if he suffered a nerve injury and shoulder injury in a game.

Both streaks are incredible accomplishments .... just different. There could be any number of arguments on either side, and both could have merit.


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I might as well bring it up. Farve was addicted to Vicodin, which is a prescription pain killer. He got through many of those games due to it.

I respect both men for their longevity and performance (sounds like a Levitra commercial hehe) but i have to go with Ripken and his record.


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I gotta go with Favre.

While Ripkin played more games, lasting 16 seasons in football is MUCH hard to do then lasting 16 seasons in Baseball. JMHO.

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I agree that Farve's was harder. And to play at the top-5 in the game as long as he has.

Another thing to remember is that Farve got a ring out of it too. Maybe that isn't important in this discussion but it's not like he needed this for his legacy; Ripkin didn't need it but the streak certainly aided his legacy. Farve is a legend because of how he's played year in and year out.

The argument about the flu in a 160+ game season is very valid though.

I'd lean a little towards Farve. But let's not forget his streak is over.

Can we all agree that if Farve extends this out to 16 seasons (isn't it another 2 1/2) years, there shouldn't be even close to an argument?????


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C'mon he's brett FREAKING favre for heaven's sake. I love Cal and respect his accomplishments, but BF didn't only make that record by playing, but willingly throwing himself into the fire. have you seen him after an interception or blocking on a double reverse?


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Ripken, hands down.

In the NFL, you play/start one game on Sunday and get credit for it, maybe only taking one snap. You get 6 days off to prepare/rest for the next one,....

In baseball you gotta go five innnings for credit, and perhaps, have to play the very next day.

Getting beared down on by a 280 lb lineman is no different than getting thrown at with a 95 mph fast ball, especially one not even thrown on purpose.

This isn't even an argument.

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Ripken scratched his balls inbetween turning double plays...While let me think about this for a second...Favre delivers passes STANDING in a pocket dependent on his lineman with 300 lb. track stars chasing after him.

Favre.

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People making the argument for Favre seem to be forgetting that they get 6 days off between games to let the bumps and bruises heal... Play an entire season of baseball with your longest break off being 4 days at the AS Break.

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People making the argument for Favre seem to be forgetting that they get 6 days off between games to let the bumps and bruises heal... Play an entire season of baseball with your longest break off being 4 days at the AS Break.




6 days off from getting pounded by 300 lb lineman out to hurt you or a day off from swinging a bat and catching some fly balls. As much as I respect Cal, Favre's is most impressive.


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If Favre got "pounded" as much as you guys that spit on Ripken say he does, then wouldn't this not even be a question ?? He wouldn't even have a streak,....I really don't see the difference. And like it was pointed out earlier, we all pretty much agree, Cal has never been on roids or Vicadin.

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People making the argument for Favre seem to be forgetting that they get 6 days off between games to let the bumps and bruises heal... Play an entire season of baseball with your longest break off being 4 days at the AS Break.




6 days off from getting pounded by 300 lb lineman out to hurt you or a day off from swinging a bat and catching some fly balls. As much as I respect Cal, Favre's is most impressive.




you must have never played baseball..... at least for long periods of time. Just swinging bats and taking grounders huh? To have streaks like this it's a given that both players have never had any SEVERE injuries. So we'll call them bumps and bruises... They begin to pile up in baseball... you tweak your ankle and it's uncomfortable, you still play the next day. Do it in Football, you get 6 days to recover and if your Favre you don't even have to practice ALL week.

Yes Favre has linemen coming at him, but he may get put on his butt 5 times a game. Then takes a week off and does it again.

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My comment was made with a little bit of tounge in cheek since he said they are bumps and bruises. Favre got hit harder then Ripken is what my point was. No doubt both are impressive but in my mind, Favre's was a bigger accomplishment. But what Cal did was no easy task either. There's days when I want to take a day off so I know how those days can be.


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I guess you have to look at it this way, including playoffs, Favre played in what, 269 games consecutive. Ripken played in what, 2,200.

So 10 times more games for Ripken. Whats more likely, getting injured in one football game or 10 baseball games. The answer is Football.

Favre = more impressive


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woops, that 2600 games for ripken, ok so 12 baseball games for every 1 football game


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I don't know ... having played both, I'd say it's about the same. In 3 years of high school football, I never once had an injury bad enough to keep me out of a game. In a couple years of softball since college, I've sprained my ankle a couple of times, and have seen some pretty bad "ball to the face" injuries suffered by team-mates. You also can't think of it like "12 days to one day", because the baseball games are right on top of each other. If you turn an ankle in football, you wrap it for a week and can usually play the next one. If you do it in baseball, you're usually out the next day.

Now if somebody were to play 20+ years consecutively in the NBA, that would probably get my vote. That sport is rough!

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