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dawglover05 #1983691 11/02/22 10:32 AM
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Your article only says that it is a transparent ponzi scheme lol.

Social Security's system of collections and payments are very similar to a pyramid scheme -- and there is not a damn thing wrong with that. Pyramid "schemes" get a bad rap because they are usually used to defraud. Like the space time continuum, math and time are also infinite. As long as we are required to "pay in", the system should always be funded. I say should because we still have idiots that are too irresponsible to just let something so simple "work", without thinking they should always be changing it.

Over the past couple decades we've decided we should be able to borrow from SS to fund the government. It's been treated more an more like a garden variety savings account -- which is obviously baaaad.

It is troubling that the article says "for many years to come - until 2034". saywhat Twelve years isn't "many years to come". I guess this could be due to a combination of boomers collecting and a reduced amount of revenue coming in (damn illegals - JUST KIDDING). To properly take advantage of compounding interest, the magic of mathematics, I would think the account should be at least 25-30 years out.


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Pyramid schemes are different from ponzi schemes. I won't argue the borrowing money route, but this is structured. Equating social security to Bernie Madoff style politics is incendiary-based ignorance. You're not doing that, obviously, but other posters are.


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If you're relying on the government and social security for your retirement, you're doing it wrong..

I personally rather cut social security and let me keep that money to invest how I see fit... I understand why we have social security, but I know I could get better returns if I had access to my money


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I have no doubt that both you and I could and a percentage of the population could and would. However, there is a large portion of the population that would burn through it.
Sometime you need to protect people from themselves.


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Ready for the RED WAVE! Take Control!!


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Originally Posted by EveDawg
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i thought that came once a month, not every other year.


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it looks to be more of a red flood vs a red tidal wave.

either way, it seems like D's and R's are going to have to work together to get things done.


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Originally Posted by superbowldogg
it seems like D's and R's are going to have to work together to get things done.

That hopefully will be good for the country...


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JD Flippin Vance Ohio? Really? I hate this state.


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Kind of how I feel about PA electing Fetterman... I don't really like Oz... but Fetterman should be in cognitive rehab... not the senate...


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I'm hoping that Beto decides that enough is enough... he's now lost in his run for Senate... President... and Governor... dude, either go back to the House or retire from politics...


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our state really elected JD Vance.

i already knew the dems were losing in the state and across the country, but i really held out hope that at least ohio wouldn't put Vance in office.

but nope, the W-L of hope in my fellow americans is....looking a bit Hue Jacksonish.


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So.... are we done with Stacie Abrams as well?? or is she gonna run for something again?? I'm really hoping Abram and Beto decide not to run again....


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Originally Posted by jaybird
I'm hoping that Beto decides that enough is enough... he's now lost in his run for Senate... President... and Governor... dude, either go back to the House or retire from politics...

Beto and Stacey Abrams both need to take a back seat or lower positions. Both could win a house seat. Texas is stupid for re-electing Abbott, can you imagine?


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Vance is disappointing. His about-face said everything. He’s already campaigned against aiding Ukraine too.


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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
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I'm hoping that Beto decides that enough is enough... he's now lost in his run for Senate... President... and Governor... dude, either go back to the House or retire from politics...

Beto and Stacey Abrams both need to take a back seat or lower positions. Both could win a house seat. Texas is stupid for re-electing Abbott, can you imagine?


I'm not a huge fan of Abbott... but there's no way in hell I'm voting for Beto... I agree, that both Beto and Abrams should either step back from politics or go back to the house or something else... both have gotten a ton of national publicity and have proven they can lose big elections...


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Originally Posted by Swish
our state really elected JD Vance.

i already knew the dems were losing in the state and across the country, but i really held out hope that at least ohio wouldn't put Vance in office.

but nope, the W-L of hope in my fellow americans is....looking a bit Hue Jacksonish.

Dems are losing across the country? We must not be seeing the same news. With all the pundits saying republicans would get their red wave, sure seems to be a lot of blue wins, but I only tuned in just before 11 PM.


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Right now, the Senate is at 46-46. And a lot of these places are just starting or haven't touched the early and mail-in votes yet. Looking scary right now, if Dems hold on, the big lie might trigger a civil war.

At least that's what GOPers have been saying.

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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
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our state really elected JD Vance.

i already knew the dems were losing in the state and across the country, but i really held out hope that at least ohio wouldn't put Vance in office.

but nope, the W-L of hope in my fellow americans is....looking a bit Hue Jacksonish.

Dems are losing across the country? We must not be seeing the same news. With all the pundits saying republicans would get their red wave, sure seems to be a lot of blue wins, but I only tuned in just before 11 PM.

the country just watched the miami-dade county district turn red for desantis, with him and rubio absolutely running away with the W.

just stop it.


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Fetterman hasn't won it yet. It looks like he will, but I doubt it's confirmed tonight.


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Originally Posted by Swish
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our state really elected JD Vance.

i already knew the dems were losing in the state and across the country, but i really held out hope that at least ohio wouldn't put Vance in office.

but nope, the W-L of hope in my fellow americans is....looking a bit Hue Jacksonish.

Dems are losing across the country? We must not be seeing the same news. With all the pundits saying republicans would get their red wave, sure seems to be a lot of blue wins, but I only tuned in just before 11 PM.

the country just watched the miami-dade county district turn red for desantis, with him and rubio absolutely running away with the W.

just stop it.

You didn't know Florida was a solidly red state now? Let the numbers come in. We haven't even put the overnight numbers into play yet, and we spent hours and hours filling those suitcases with EXTRA votes. wink


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and im specifically focused on ohio right now. we literally decided to turn into indiana and western michigan. this wave of christian nationalism man....damn.


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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
Fetterman hasn't won it yet. It looks like he will, but I doubt it's confirmed tonight.


True... probably won't be confirmed tonight, but I think it's clear he's going to win... that's probably my biggest head scratcher of the night... guy just seems so lost mentally that I'm surprised he's going to win, but I can understand because Oz is more of a Hollywood celeb than a Pennsylvanian...


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We can also lump Val Demings into the Beto and Stacey group. They are good candidates but need to aim lower.


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Originally Posted by Swish
and im specifically focused on ohio right now. we literally decided to turn into indiana and western michigan. this wave of christian nationalism man....damn.

Can't wait for all those guys that don't back Trump to tell us how JD Vance got elected. I can't get over that. Talk about a turd of a candidate... And the brain-dead elected him.


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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
We can also lump Val Demings into the Beto and Stacey group. They are good candidates but need to aim lower.

or should just stop running for office altogether.


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Originally Posted by jaybird
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Fetterman hasn't won it yet. It looks like he will, but I doubt it's confirmed tonight.


True... probably won't be confirmed tonight, but I think it's clear he's going to win... that's probably my biggest head scratcher of the night... guy just seems so lost mentally that I'm surprised he's going to win, but I can understand because Oz is more of a Hollywood celeb than a Pennsylvanian...

I would have voted for Fetterman, hands down. But right now, I'd vote for a turnip over most republicans. Trump remains a clear and present danger. Hopefully, the DOJ takes him out and puts him in a deep dark hole.


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we'll see... I don't think they have enough on him, but if they do hope they charge him...

I am hoping he doesn't run again, but who knows what that man will do...

2024 will be interesting...


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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
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Fetterman hasn't won it yet. It looks like he will, but I doubt it's confirmed tonight.


True... probably won't be confirmed tonight, but I think it's clear he's going to win... that's probably my biggest head scratcher of the night... guy just seems so lost mentally that I'm surprised he's going to win, but I can understand because Oz is more of a Hollywood celeb than a Pennsylvanian...

I would have voted for Fetterman, hands down. But right now, I'd vote for a turnip over most republicans. Trump remains a clear and present danger. Hopefully, the DOJ takes him out and puts him in a deep dark hole.

You seem fixated on killing people you don't like.

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What are you talking about? The DOJ isn't going to kill Trump. You seem fixated on me when you should be working on yourself. Hell, you belong to that party of insurrection, you don't get to say crap about me.

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Boebert currently down 8,000 votes with 75% counted.


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Originally Posted by jaybird
we'll see... I don't think they have enough on him, but if they do hope they charge him...

I am hoping he doesn't run again, but who knows what that man will do...

2024 will be interesting...

He'll announce it on the 15th. Hell, he's already announced, just said tonight he would spill the beans on DeSantis and air out his dirty laundry if he dares to challenge him in 24.

Trump Says It Would Be a Mistake for DeSantis to Run for the White House in 2024

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/el...white-house-in-2024-s4Ss0qY1YijptXFIzEOb

Donald Trump just sent Ron DeSantis a 2024 warning shot

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/08/politics/trump-desantis-2024-warning-shot/index.html

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Chuck Schumer won. I knew some of you would want to know.


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Originally Posted by Squires
Boebert currently down 8,000 votes with 75% counted.

She gone.


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You are constantly saying people should die.......well, people you don't agree with, should die. Should be buried. You are a wanna be tough guy. A wanna be avenger.

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Its just the way he cries his snowflake tears.


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MSNBC said that control of the house is too close to call. They project 219-216 Republicans with a 13-seat plus or minus. So basically a tie that will come down to races yet to be determined.


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Shut up.


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Your tears are delicious tough guy lol


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Originally Posted by archbolddawg
You are constantly saying people should die.......well, people you don't agree with, should die. Should be buried. You are a wanna be tough guy. A wanna be avenger.

Where? You got receipts or just running your mouth because you FEEL I said something that didn't sit right with you? Such a troll. Oh my OCD is violent, he says mean things... and I'm the snowflake. rolleyes


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