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Jay, what do you think about this scenario.....
LSU beats OSU, let's say in a 2 score game or less and Hawaii beats Georgia by 14+. Then what? 
The world blows up 
In reality the nation would say that LSU is the champ and screw Hawaii they only beat one team...
They would get some recognition and could see Hawaii move up to top 5... but they are undefeated now and only 10th... if they win their bowl game I see them going to 5th or so... depends on how many BCS teams will fall behind them... but I don't think they'd be high enough in any poll to have a case for a national championship. Some people will use it as a case for a playoff, but you didn't hear too much about it after BSU went undefeated (of course UF was clearly the best team at the end of the season).
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OSU IS GONNA GIVE LSU A MAJOR BEATDOWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nobody gave Florida a chance last year... Let us be the underdogs. No need for the attention.
I want the Cleveland Browns to be my pallbearers so they can let me down for the last time.
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But I think it's a different dynamic when it's a 2 loss team winning the title.
Also.......while BSU was undefeated, they beat a big 12 team that was I believe 8th or 9th in the country in OT. Many view Georgia as maybe the 3rd best team in the country. So what happens if Hawaii not just wins but blows them out? Then what? It would give them convincing wins over Bosie State who was #19 and Georgia who was #4. I don't see how that wouldn't qualify them for atleast a split IMO, given that no one else in the country wanted anything to do with them in their non conference schedule.
Would be an incredibly entertaining scenario.
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Gotta feel from Georgia... they go from 4th in the BCS to 5th... and LSU goes from 7th to 2nd... kind of screwy.
I really don't understand man.... this is stupid.. I don't wanna play no freakin' Hawaii!!!!
BCS is garbage... I hate LSU. They don't deserve to be in the National Championship. Forget SEC pride, I hope Ohio St. THRASHES them!!!
All due respect to your Dawgs, but Oklahoma is who really got screwed here; either them or Virginia Tech (who doesn't have a case against LSU,...).
Les Miles just made that stupid statement again,.."We're undefeated in regulation,..." That really makes him an idiot,...
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Still trying to do everything you can to discredit The Ohio State University.
Nas, In a year that your Michigan Wolverines were supposed to easily win the Big 10, and contend for a National Title, you find yourselves chilling out at home during the offseason. OH, WAIT, WHAT'S THAT?
YOUR ARCH RIVAL -THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES, YOU KNOW, THE TEAM THAT KNOCKED YOU OUT OF CONTENTION LAST YEAR, AND THE TEAM THAT YOUR 3 BIG SENIORS CAME BACK TO BEAT THIS YEAR, THE BUCKEYES, OH YEAH BRO, THEY'RE IN THE TITLE GAME AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep discrediting all you want, either way, we're there, and you guys are not!
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very true - but I'm hoping OSU gets a 2 pt win and then I could care less what Hawaii does 
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I'm actually fine being in the Sugar Bowl, I really didn't think they would let Georgia get in the National Championship, but all the other teams that did better like Oklahoma, Virginia Tech, who were ranked higher than LSU, got screwed. I just dont wanna go against Hawaii.. Guess we have to give them their 1st loss of the season 
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Still trying to do everything you can to discredit The Ohio State University.
Nas, In a year that your Michigan Wolverines were supposed to easily win the Big 10, and contend for a National Title, you find yourselves chilling out at home during the offseason. OH, WAIT, WHAT'S THAT?
YOUR ARCH RIVAL -THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES, YOU KNOW, THE TEAM THAT KNOCKED YOU OUT OF CONTENTION LAST YEAR, AND THE TEAM THAT YOUR 3 BIG SENIORS CAME BACK TO BEAT THIS YEAR, THE BUCKEYES, OH YEAH BRO, THEY'RE IN THE TITLE GAME AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep discrediting all you want, either way, we're there, and you guys are not!
I'm not discrediting anyone so you can go stick it. 
I was waiting for you to chime in after all the smoke had cleared. I have better things to do then to start arguing with someone who constantly has **** spilling out of their ears.
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'nas,...why does Illinois get the nod when they lose the tiebreaker to Michigan,...why does the Rose Bowl get to "handpick" it's Big Ten opponent,...is it because Illinois finished so much higher in the BCS,....??
I know the Rose Bowl gets first dibs because it "lost" its participant to the Title Game,....as a Big Ten fan, I'm a lot more comfortable with Michigan going out there than Illinois.
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Had Michigan not **** the bed against Wisconsin they may have gone. Tie breakers don't play in to bowl bids, only conference standings. Illinois got the nod because they were the only other Big Ten team that qualified for a BCS bowl (by being ranked in the top 14 of the final BCS poll).
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Nobody gave Florida a chance last year... Let us be the underdogs. No need for the attention.
plenty of people gave florida a chance last year, maybe not ohio state people...
it made me sick when the florida players and coaches played the "nobody gave us a chance" card
when ohio state beat miami in the fiesta bowl, nobody truthfully gave that team a shot...
but ohio state was only favored by a touchdown, and even before the game the sec folks were saying florida would win...
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Had Michigan not **** the bed against Wisconsin they may have gone. Tie breakers don't play in to bowl bids, only conference standings. Illinois got the nod because they were the only other Big Ten team that qualified for a BCS bowl (by being ranked in the top 14 of the final BCS poll).
Exactly... all BCS bowls get to hand pick who they want... that's the way it works. Except for the Championship game which obviously takes the #1 and #2... but Ill was the only other Big Ten team that was high enough in the BCS to qualify (top12).
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What do you think the line will be for this one? LSU by 7 and a half?
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This is why they "expanded" the pool of eligibles, too.
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What do you think the line will be for this one? LSU by 7 and a half?
that sounds about right...
i think it may open at -7 even
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I think it will be more like 5 1/2, the books want an influx of bets on OSU if they view them as the clear cut underdog. It will probably shift to 7 or 7 1/2 but I think it will open low to spur action and then adjust.
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Oh I got it I think you meant New Orleans? 
If so don't you think that wording was uncalled for? I mean your making fun of an area of this country that was almost completely destroyed by a natural disater, yes they might speak with a draw and use words differently but I don't think that was appropriate. Now I really hope LSU makes it and get's to play for their community, they could use the good vibes still to this day, I hope they make it and wish them the best if they do and will root for them to win. They can use the happiness with all the problems Katrina caused that whole area.
Here's to LSU making it, and winning it! Go Tigers.
Are you on crack? everyone calls it that....esp the locals down south.....no one gets offended by it...sorry i can't help laugh at your post...
Totally agree. Nawlins is common to everyone I know. It has never been used as mocking people who are from there. I had to laugh at the reaction from Fletch as well.
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1. N'awlins 87 up, 8 down The first sign that you are a tourist is if you pronounce New Orleans as N'awlins. Locals actually pronounce the city name as New Awlins. People from other cities hear N'awlins because of the way locals drag out and connect their words. Most locals actually hate hearing people say N'awlins or New Or-Leans. Im going to N'awlins for Mardi Gras! 
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Ididn't want us in the game, and I sure don't want to play on their home field, but I think from a talent level we will matchup pretty good. The QB that worries me more is their backup. We have done well against more traditional teams, but the full out spread has given us a lot of problems.
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Boy .... right now Mizzou has to equal misery.
From #1 to out of the BCS in one day.
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Congrats you Buckeye fans.... Wish my Bulls coulda hung on...(Damn Rutgers) 
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Boy .... right now Mizzou has to equal misery.
From #1 to out of the BCS in one day.
I feel 'ya,...but this doesn''t happen if you win. How about Oklahoma, who beat them twice ?? (LSU is still the "better" pick, I would have to agree.)
Kansas only had one loss -- but it was the wrong one -- so somehow they have to "pay" for that. But Hawaii has no losses, and still got a nice BCS game anyway, even though they barely beat the team that caused some of the Buckeye "weak schedule" ruckus.
Everybody else won their conference, and you have that "two-teams-only" rule. Maybe that is a rule they should tweak. Look at the Big Ten as an example,...2/3 years ago ?? Ohio State won the conference, and Michigan and Iowa went 11-1. One of those two " wasn't good enough ?? " because of the 2-team rule. That's BS.
Actually I wouldn't mind seeing them tweak the whole thing with an "exceptionary" rule that would prohibit ANY 2 loss team going anywhere in front of a qualifying -- say BCS Top 12 -- team with less losses IF IT PLAYED IN ITS CONFERENCE TITLE GAME or won it outright.. This year, that would automatically eliminate a lot of the "fuss" and provide a preemptory attack in the battle of such a season as this one was. I also would have a rule that would treat ANY 1-AA game as either an automatic loss in the polls, or perhaps a one-quarter point penalty in the BCS number(s). That would stop that garbage in its tracks.
And I think Bob Stoops is right about a playoff,..it could almost instantly create as many problems as it might solve. You already have the money and the fame, and you only need one shot to "get it all." I'll bet a lot of coaches feel the same way.
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What do you think the line will be for this one? LSU by 7 and a half?
The opening line came out within 10 min of the announcement. LSU is favored by 5 1/2 in the opening line.
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Wish my Bulls coulda hung on...(Damn Rutgers)
Hey USF had a pretty good season bpoints. They lost those 3 in a row mid-late year but they weren't blown out in those games. The team had a good offense too,they put up some numbers. As you know in Florida college football is huge so it's good to see USF looking as good as the top 3(Miami,Florida,FSU)
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But Hawaii has no losses, and still got a nice BCS game anyway, even though they barely beat the team that caused some of the Buckeye "weak schedule" ruckus.
It impressed me more that Hawaii could play like absolute CRAP, get down by 21 and come back and win then if they would have just cruised early.
Is Washington a great team? Obviously not but do you think OSU could have gone down 21-0 in the first quarter and come back and won? Or anyone else for that matter? It's a back breaking scenario, one that Hawaii just brushed off. Should be interesting to see how they perform against UGA.
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So either Hawaii came back because Washington is terrible or, Hawaii ain't really that good.
I would think Washington was a better team late season than they were at game # 3,..not trying to defend anything. When scheduled, the Huskies were a formidable opponent -- that was YEARS ago.
This is why I am a proponent of more "forced" interconference scheduling. This year is not the norm,...the Buckeyes have as tough an OOC schedule over the next 10 years as anybody does. (Talking Big Boys, not your Kent State's -- because everybody has those.)
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I know the Gators had one of the strongest schedules of any team this year, and next years looks like this:
Sat Apr 12 Spring Orange and Blue Game
Sat Aug 30 vs. Hawaii
Sat Sep 6 vs. Miami (Fla.)
Sat Sep 20 at Tennessee
Sat Sep 27 vs. Ole Miss
Sat Oct 4 at Arkansas
Sat Oct 11 vs. LSU
Sat Oct 25 vs. Kentucky (HC)
Sat Nov 1 vs. Georgia
Sat Nov 8 at Vanderbilt
Sat Nov 15 vs. South Carolina
Sat Nov 22 vs. Citadel
Sat Nov 29 at Florida State
Talk of stronger schedules need be directed at some.......but not Florida.
But I agree.....more weight needs to be put on schedule strength so teams can't pad 2-3 weak games in there.
Each Big Boy needs to play at least 1 Citadel to spread the wealth.
You start scheduling 2-3....knowing before hand they are going to be chumps, you need to be docked in the final rankings.
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florida played some tough games, but they had 3 puffcakes in there too...
western kentucky, troy, and florida atlantic, all teams that they knew would be easy wins...
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This is another thing that will really tick me off,....it's a TWO-WAY street. Why in the hell, just when The Citadel is getting it's program going again, do they take a late-season loss when you might be in a playoff run,.... Florida should be penalized TWO poll spots for doing that,...!! Truth be told, with the money that Divsion One makes, just GIVE it to these little guys,...(just ask Michigan,..)
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LSU, Florida State, Ole Miss, and an emerging Miami team. Not to mention the other teams that are capable of winning. - That is one heck of a schedule you guys have. How good is Miami going to be over the next few years?
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Talk of stronger schedules need be directed at some.......but not Florida
That's CRAP 'Peen -- EVERYBODY does it.
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What do you think the line will be for this one? LSU by 7 and a half?
The opening line came out within 10 min of the announcement. LSU is favored by 5 1/2 in the opening line.
the total is 52, i think i might lay some money on that one, 2 defensive teams? 2 great running games? why not...
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Here is a link you can see for yourself where your favorite team stacked up. http://www.gberatings.com/sos/I guess we won't need to talk about that any more.
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This explains to all why nd was 3-9. 24th ranked schedule!
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I guess we won't need to talk about that any more.
While wins and losses are indisputable, strength of schedule is still subjective. Thus, the link to the website you pasted doesn't answer, or finalize, any argument that relates to strength of schedule. To me, your source is as invalid as something that an SEC booster writes, or says.
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Here is a link you can see for yourself where your favorite team stacked up.
http://www.gberatings.com/sos/
I guess we won't need to talk about that any more.
I don't quite understand what the beef is,....I never said Florida, or any SEC team has a weak schedule, and have always been adamant that I never wanted to play Youngstown State.
EVERYBODY PLAYS PANSIES.
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That was more for people who were talking about schedule strength here and other threads, not really directed at you.
I clicked you since you are a Citadel fan. Didn't know if you knew we had you on the schedule.
That should be a $400,000 payday for your team.
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Screw 400 K,...I would rather not lose the momentum of a 6-2 / 7-1 playoff-run-season go down the drain having to play Florida. It's CRAP.
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The Mo is one issue.....but it won't factor into you playoff run.
Look at it this way.....unless we just beat your guys up and they get hurt, it will make you better.
And......you might win...what would that do for your momentum???
Then...think of the players....you might forget a trip to Statesboro or Chattanooga.....you won't forget the time you played in the Swamp...I bet they want to play the game.
Granted.....you probably won't win(I hope to heck you don't!!)......but those SouCon schools need a game like that...that pays a big portion of the budget.
Arkansas paid UTC close to half a million to head up to Fayettville to take a beating....but that cash pays a lot of the bills in this program.
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