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No-one said has said "we should have kept Baker" as a result of the Ram's game.

Anyone who has commented on QB talent has acknowledged that Watson is a vast improvement on BM.

In "Player News" - the idea that posters wouldn't comment on Baker [1] Being Waived [2] Being Claimed [3] Starting after 2 days and orchestrating a 98 yard winning TD drive ... is stoopid. Was never not going to get discussed and plenty of air time.

As WSU mentioned - there is absolutely no doubt the performance, the accolades in the press and by his new team mates and SB winning HC ... and the locker room reception ... must have been a bitter pill for several on here to swallow. That's hilarious and deserves comments too.

Shouldn’t be a bitter pill. Why should it? His play here was erratic.

Baker Mayfield is a bad QB who performs when expectations are low. No one expected him to play well or win the game. That's when Baker excels, like in 2018 and 2020. When the expectations ramp up, he falls short, like in 2019 and 2021. The Rams game was a perfect storm for Baker. No one expected him to play well or even win. He could just wing it. That's when Baker is at his best. The problem is it's not sustainable.

Baker Mayfield is a bad QB. The evidence is overwhelming and there is still his club on here that now blames the Panthers for his bad play. That is comical by a country mile. When Baker is out of the league or a backup next season they'll be someone or something else to blame. Never seen anything like this before where the mountain of evidence is so persuasive yet he continues to get the benefit of the doubt. Absolutely crazy.

You might be right. But as always you try too hard or assume too much what others are doing or saying when they point out factual things like Rhile is a terrible HC. Kitchens was worse. Etc. Those things are real and have an impact no matter how bad Baker is. But that's OK I guess.

What cracks me up when reading these posts about a player that is now gone is that through all the hatred continually posted, it's how hypocritical they are with the posts. Anytime someone posts anything critical about Stefanski or Berry, you can expect without fail that even though their results clearly warrant a change is needed IMHO, you can read post after post about how stability at HC and the FO is more important than current results due to the revolving door in Cleveland that has had a direct effect of the team's ability to be a consistent winner. How this instability in the past has had an effect on the players and ability to build a championship team.

Hypocritically, if you mention anything about the former QB's instability he had to deal with relating to the HC's it immediately goes to hatred of the player. 7 different HC's and counting in a 5-year career, 5 different OC's, and 4 different FO's has absolutely nothing to do with the former players ability to perform and grow yet those same posters will swear that making what IMHO is a warranted change due to results in Cleveland would be detrimental to the team chemistry and stability that is now crucial to a winning organization. I would guess that the lesson learned here is that stability/chemistry only depends on whether you're likeable or not to have HC/FO stability/chemistry as a factor in your career. The former player has his performance issues but no #1 draft pick in the history of the NFL has ever dealt with as much instability at the HC/FO position and still be held totally responsible for his inability to grow as an NFL QB.

What's so hilarious about the whole situation, if Stefanski were to be fired (IMHO is warranted), the hate mongers would be out in force with excuse after excuse about the HC/FO instability if the Browns start out bad next year with Watson performing poorly. I'm willing to bet there would be 100's of posts making excuses for Watson's poor play as Haslam's refusal to maintain stability at the HC/FO positions. Wait for it, it's coming, bank on it - past history guarantees it'll happen here.