DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2022 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 10 Bengals 23 Post Game

i need an explanation for the 1at quarter debacle.

25 carries the entire game, with watson having 6.

it's like stefanski forgot to run the ball. he literally just had watson throwing like he's been playing all season. the 1st quarter was so mind blowingly dumb that i knew we wouldn't come back to win, despite having plenty of chances to.

Given the amount of talent on this team it's mindboggling how bad we are. The lack of discipline, the penatlies, the playcalls..I can't see anyway to fix it other than a complete coaching overhaul from top to bottom. Bruce Arians, Shawn Peyton..call them now! give them whatever they want, we'll never have this much talent on our team again.

We are in good hands with Stefanski. The fire, passion, preparedness, and discipline the team plays with, especially in must win games, is there...he just doesn't have the talent to capitalize on his skill as a head coach. Next year we are going to soar.

Watson is on Pace to have 8.5 offensive touchdowns
NEXT YEAR.

We miss POCIC.....plain and simple

Next year doesn't exist imo, only this year.
They've told me next year since nineteen eighty nine.
Only this year matters.

This year, they are going to soar.

As long as they have Stefanski the sky is the limit.

j/c:

Amazing we are having trouble running the ball. Is it our O line and the opposing teams are just keying on Chubb?

Regardless, the game went about how I expected it to. Watson looked a bit better.

(sighs)

HA, irony.
next year doesn't exist, only this year.

Offense:
Deshaun Watson/Brisset(who had played amazingly well for a backup qb)
Nick Chubb/Kareem Hunt(the best running back duo in the NFL)
Amari Cooper
David Njoko

Defense:
Myles Garret
Jadaveon Clowney
Denzel Ward

How much talent is needed to at least best a .500 record??

Thusfar Watson looks like a square peg trying to be forced into a round hole. I know it will take a lot of time but the whole Offense has changed with no rhythm or identity. 4 more pre-season games for Watson.

Disregard my last post, I missed the sarcasm. LoL

22+ players of average talent plus an average coaching staff. Seems like we are not up to the formula level yet....

Perhaps we are getting too predictable and lacking 'variety' in our play calling. I felt sorry for Chubb today. Not enough carries and nowhere to go...

- The Browns managed to score an offensive touchdown.

- Finally get $230M QB and pull him out of the game on 4th and 1 to have Brissett throw deep ball to the corner of the end zone to kill a nice opening drive. Brilliant!

- The dinking and dunking brought back Brady Quinn memories.

- When does the elite QB start to elevate the play of those around him?

- The OL has been bad for awhile now. The Ethan Pocic loss was a big one. Going to want to sign him to a new deal.

- Hjalte Froholdt was getting absolutely exploited by the Bengals.

- Delpit getting duped on the flea flicker was par for the course.

- Deion Jones playing hot potato with the football was ill-advised.

- Nice game by Garrett.

- Cooper had only two catches on seven targets.

- Sloppy play and lack of discipline killed the Browns. 9 penalties for 98 yards. Smart. Tough. Accountable.

- On track for another double digit loss season.

- This team is a long way from true Super Bowl contention.

- Four more opportunities to slog through.

- Game balls: To all the fans that had the mental fortitude, sheer will and guts to watch this squad attempt to play the game of football from start to finish this afternoon. It was a grind.

The Bengals were without 2 of their top 3 WRs
Yet Burrow was able to convert 3rd downs
Chase did what he wanted to vs Ward.
The Browns had no answer today when it mattered
DPJ played a solid game but he still can't find
The end zone.

DJ Reader was a force all day. Maybe he caught Berry's attention
DTs can impact a game.

I didn't watch the game but it seems DW had a much better game and made a lot of progress from last week. Penalties were too many. The Bengals are the class of our division. They can play with and beat anyone in the league and we played them tough.

He's trolling us. I think.

My favorite part of the game was watching van pelt on the sideline doing what appeared to be nothing.

If he can't see how good Stefanski is get rid of him.

Next year we are going to soar.

j/c.

I cant even imagine this.

D played well in the first half. O - why go for it when you're within a chipshot field goal range? PUT POINTS ON THEY BOARD!

Our $230,000,000.00 man over 5 years? Playing like it should have been $23 million over five year. I don't care about "rust". Dude, you've had 2 years of availability and money to knock the rust off. Can't read a d. No excuse for being rusty at this point. 3 weeks of practice. Either the rust falls off, or it doesn't. Looking like it doesn't.

Chub - dude needs carries to get his mojo going. Yes, so often in the first half he doesn't do so well.......but dude ALWAYS comes on in the second half.

NFL - if Bogers crew is going to be a flag fest, why even risk injuries to players? Have the players stand off to the side and let the officials determine the game.

So, SO not impressed with our $230 million dollar qb. If this is what we sold out for, we'll suck for 4 more years, and mean while waste Chubb, Bitonio, Teller, etc.

Stefanski whining in his press conference. What a loser.

Losers always whine about doing their best. Winners go home and screw the prom queen.

Wait I forgot...next year we are going to soar. If you can't see how awesome Stefanski is, you don't know football.

Deshaun Watson passing and running =300+ yards of offense, our running game 40 yards of offense. Plus the the drive kiling penalties, getting duped on a flea flicker...etc. But Watson suck..math dont add up.

I wonder if the Stefanski fan club will.show up?
He really didn't coach with a sense of urgency today

Exactly Knight. Doesn't seem like DW was the biggest problem today and he played much better than last week. Let's see how much he improves in the next 5 games. The rest of the season is basically 5 pre-season games as far as I'm concerned.

He looked scared and nervous on the sidelines and in his presser. I hope behind the scenes he was put on notice that his job is in jeopardy.

The issue is the Browns will never be good with Haslam, his structure, and Depo. No one worth anything wants to work in that environment.

4 games....errrr...opportunities.

Yep, last season he played 4,800 yards passing on a team that went 4/12. Most talented QB that's ever suited up in a Browns uniform, anyone that say otherwise is silly. He's just getting warmed up, I just question this coaching staff can put it all together.

AKA..."We have to get better", "This one is on me" BS.

I agree and my mistake, 4 games left.

To you and Knight: I never said DW was the biggest problem. Although, a 62% completion rate got a different qb roasted on here. 79.1 qb rating. Not so great.

If I am not mistaken, he has 1 td, with 2 int's since he's been with the Browns - playing.

I will not, after 1 game - he's now had 2 by the way - buy into the "rust" thing, nor will I buy into the "not in shape" crap.

You signed a contract for $230 MILLION - no one prevented you from practicing on your own. NO ONE prevented you from getting in shape.

Look, folks, he's getting the money - maybe he ought to earn it...........no excuses. His excuses ran out. He doesn't get the rest of this year to figure it out.....I mean when the season is over, he'll have another 8 plus months where he's on his own............I don't buy excuses.

No. Unless not throwing into the dirt is progress.
He spent much of the first half to mid 3rd @uarter, deciding too early to make a bad move to step up in the pocket and give up on the pass to make noticeably bad pocket presence decisions which had almost no chance of becoming a good play, to the point of looking shell shocked and that he was going to abandon the play very early, tenths of a second after the snap.
The pocket wasn't there but, the O linemen couldn't possibly know where he was going to be
It must be hard to make a pocket if the @b couldn't decide where he wanted to stand, or step up, or step back, or step sideways even if there weren't pressure.

Why not?

yea i thought DW played better than expected. the int was bad because it was a late read but he definitely showed why he still has the ability to be a top 5 QB. he didn't drop those TD passes. and he didn't call the plays that had stefanski just abandon the run from the start of the game. i just don't get the playcalling today. no QB, watson or Brady, should justify Stefanski abandoning what is a top 5 rushing attack in the nfl.

Its that way every week, not just today.

No one expected Watson to be a world beater on his first game but he had roughly 120 yards offense against the worst team in the league to roughly 300+ yards on his second outing against the 12th ranked defense in the league. A repectable improvement in my opion and I have no doubt he will get better. As I have said he is the best quarterback this team has ever had and I stand behind that. He had a few bad reads today and missed oportunities but thats expected, your idea that since he is started we should be superbowl contenders is ridiculous. We have far more problems than QB play, Brissett has done better than I had ever hoped and yet we found ways to lose games in a way....well the Jets. But from watching today Watson was the only one who gave me any spark of hope. JMHO

How many TD passes did we drop today?

At least one, DPJ right into the chest.

I don't remember dropping any. Did we?