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aye man....

i wouldn't be mad if we trade Ward for whatever we could. he hasn't shown up all year.

True Story: As we walked back to our car following “The Drive”, some guy shouts “Next Year!” My dad “We’ve been saying next year for 22 years!” - That was in January of 1987, about 36 years ago. Which means that we’ve been saying next year for 58 years. There are people who will die of old age before next year gets here. Unthinkable.

I turned 65 this year. I've been a Browns fan since I was 10. I don't believe in next year anymore. I'm starting to run out of time. The Red Sox went 84 years between World series titles. That means some Sox fans went their whole lives and never saw them win one. It's starting to look more and more that it could happen to me.

I’ve been a die-hard Toronto Maple Leafs fan since I knew what hockey was, when I was around five.
I was 17 days old when they last won the Cup back in ‘67, and sometimes I wonder if I’ll live to see one. Now that I’m 55 the clock’s running out.

I've been a ST. Louis Blues fan since 10. I finally got to see them win the Cup after 52 years and what made it so sweet was them beating the Bruins in Boston game 7. It will never get better than that!! I still couldn't believe it happened one month later!!!

I hate Boston and I know a couple long-time Blues fans, Belated congrats!

I went thru quite a few years watching the Dead Wings until they finally put it together in '97. There were a few fun seasons with Probert, Kocur and Klima.

This is what passes for a hockey thread, lol.

Not that Berry was involved at the time, but Danny Shelton was supposed to be our version of Haloti Ngata or Casey Hampton, and look how well that turned out

Thanks Lamp appreciate it!!! Hey, I just got a great idea!! Since we can't seem to find enough good football players maybe we can see if we can find some hockey guys to come play for us. Heck, they can't be any worse than some of our draft picks!!

I have said that for some time. The problem is we probably wouldn't get many takers.

The good news is Winfrey has done a pretty decent job on the field. The bad news is he’s not always on the field because of off the field lol

What is the most significant thing about Mayfield last year that you absolutely refuse to recognize? Hint: You left it out ^ again. The major thing that in its continued absence from your commentary highlights your agenda? Hint: It occurred in the first half of Game #2 last year.

The things you mentioned ^ most certainly happen(ed) to Watson in his short time here...and with this HC running the team and this FO "acquiring" "talent" they will likely continue. Our receivers still drop passes, our OL has been overrated for a long time now (not just this year and specifically our OTs), our scheme and direction is still that of an OC playing HC who is in over his head, our WRs still don't get separation (other than for the guy who wasn't even here last year)...the WR who ran his own routes cancer-ed himself off the team...it's hilarious that you now want those "excuses" applied to Watson yet not to his predecessor. BTW...those ^ things are not - and were not - excuses...they are reasons...observations...problems...they are not some conspiracy against you and your glaring agenda to be seen as the arbiter of all things football and your need to be seen as "right" about Mayfield...which absolutely no one GAS about.

There was one Baker Fanboy here...he left the Board awhile back...there is one, True Baker Hater who consistently and purposefully leaves out a glaring fact that contributed to Baker's struggles last year...and a whole bunch of other people who who see/saw the good, the bad and the contributing factors...ALL of the contributing factors...that led to failures at QB last year.

He is clearly the best DT on the team (for whatever that is worth)...yet our crack coaching staff could only see the immaturity (which I'm sure there was/is plenty) and there is zero leadership to steer a guy like Winfrey in the right/better direction.

I mean, we can pretty much scrap our entire DT group and start fresh. And as soon as clowney is gone, we are extremely screwed on the DL too as teams will focus solely on MG

Yeah, that injury is why he is at the bottom of the league in every meaningful stat this year.

j/c:



Which one of you misfits is this guy? Come clean.

This is an incomplete argument to say the least.
I would say that most on this board would agree that JB played at a much better level than his record shows.

I was unable to address this last week, but it comes down to opinion.

I agree with Mac that starting JB should have been looked at going into the Bengals game. IMHO JB gave the Browns the best chance to win that game. That is after seeing DW at HOU. I definitely would have made the switch to DW once CLE was eliminated from the playoffs.

If you agree that JB would have given the Browns a better chance to win but would have still started DW, we will agree to disagree. The Browns are a competitive team in a league where there are not many above average teams, play to win the game. It is the NFL and nobody on this team believes they are rebuilding. If JB gives you the best chance to win, you start JB. Now that the Browns are eliminated, I can see the argument to get DW the needed reps. But to in essence give up on the playoffs when you are alive does not make sense to me. And many players in that locker room should feel the same way. If they did, you would see a significant drop off in effort. I have not seen that as of yet.

Lol i love that

I like him diving back into the White Claw at the end like everything is A-OK.

At 4-7 your odds of making the playoffs are very remote. I think it's a moot point to try and claim you're giving up on the playoffs with a 4-7 record.

Said no one ever...as is usual with your comments about the words of others.

but we were 5-7 going into the Bengals game and had just witnessed how bad DW was.
Most years even at 4-7 you would be correct, however the NFL is down this year. just look at the NFC ugh.

In the AFC, it looks as if there are 3 teams that are legit SB contenders, one of which we beat convincingly.
The cream of the AFC is BUF, CIN & KC.
I feel MIA is all by themselves as just outside the top 3, BAL would be here but their QB situation is dire and I look for them to come back to the pack.

TEN probably limps into the playoffs due to how bad the division is, but they are not a good team right now, having lost 3 in a row the latest to JAX.

Anything can and has happened in this league, I do not understand the lost season mentality when so many teams are bad.

As of now, CLE is still in the playoff hunt, but after last week those chances took a hit.

I do not know if JB would have done enough to get the W, but after the HOU game, I am shocked so many fans, threw in the towel when JB had done a solid job leading this team up to this point in the season. Worst case scenario, JB looks bad and DW comes in at half. Best case scenario, JB plays as consistent as he did prior to week 12 and we beat the Bengals a 2nd time this year. and significantly improve our playoff chances at 6-7 as 7-6 right now can put you in a position to get in the playoffs.

I understand the playing DW now, if CLE was out of the playoff picture. but that was not the case. We were lucky to have the opportunity for DW to return against the worst team in the NFL. But when the results were what they were, no shame in giving him time to get back into game shape and be able to catch up with the game speed while JB continues to hold down the spot.

No matter how I spell it out, many of you will not care about wasting opportunities to win games, but would rather give DW any chance possible to show his worth. I understand that point, but I do not agree. This is the NFL and 52 other players bust their a$$es to win on Sundays, and I would expect many of those players would like to be put in the best position to win. From what I saw against HOU, DW did not give the Browns the best chance to win.

I believe it is RISHUZ that called out KS and the coaches priority to winning. I like many scoffed at this assumption, but as the year goes on, winning has not seemed like a priority to these coaches and it is mind boggling to me.

So the team was 4-7 with Brissett as the starter and are 1-1 with DW as the starter and this is an argument you still continue to make?

Last time VERS jr. your argument is flawed. lets look at team record but not statistics.

Then can you explain how badly DW played against the Bengals? Because that's not the way it appears to me. He threw for not only a higher percentage than Burrows, he threw for more yards while under consistent pressure. For someone who would rather throw insults than actually look at the game DW played, it sure seems as though your frustration level is high.

I think DW played better than he did vs the Texans.
I don't think he outplayed Burrow. Burrow did more with less.
No Boyd Hurst or Higgins. Yet he engineered 23 points and a win
How would have DW done if he didn't have DPJ Njoku or Cooper. ?
DW had a high completion % cause late in the 4th Q
The Bengals were giving him open zones to throw into
To keep the clock moving

pit is right. we were 4-7 when DW took over.

we all knew the playoffs were remote possibility because we would have to win out. there is no controversy at the QB spot because we DIDNT have a winning record. obviously JB played really well, but unfortunately since this is a team sport, 7 losses meant our chances of making the playoffs were slim to none no matter who started.

but this actually goes back to why i'm so upset with woods and the defense. so NOW they are actually trying. im sorry but i can be the only one who has noticed how night and day the defense has been the last 3 games compared to the first 10. it's like they only decided playing like this once DW was back in the building, which leaves me to seriously question whether or not they intentionally BS'd the first 10 games. real leadership on the defensive side of the ball, from the players and coaches, wouldn't have me questioning effort and laziness right now.

especially Jets, Falcons, and Chargers. those are 3 games were you can blame the D completely for the L's. we'd be 7-5 after this cincy lost with DW, still in good position to make the post season.

IMO, there is a ton of logic in that ^. DW wasn't as bad as he was against HOU...but we were not a threat to win that game and DW did not play well enough to beat the Bengals. That doesn't mean he won't someday...but he wasn't on Sunday.

Reminds me of myself on most Friday nights. Lol. - But I drink at home, not like that in public. I would hope someone helped that guy to where he needed to go after the game Either that or helped him sit down.. he is seconds away from either face planting or fall to either side. - I’m assuming that this video was taken in the 4th qtr. If this was early in the game, zero chance that he didn’t pass out before the game was over.

The best part was when he came to he went right for the beer. Classic.

Looks like this dude has been at it for awhile! I found a fan made video of him on YouTube.

This guy better get a NIL agent.

I still wonder what would have happened if we had won just 2 of those games, probably the Jets and Chargers, which were won until we totally collapsed. We would have gotten to Watson's return at 6-5 and well within playoff contention instead of 4-7.... Wonder if the staff would have done anything different. I know you don't give up what we gave up for Watson to have him watch from the bench but if he comes in and plays the way he has on a playoff team... the fan reaction would be very different.

Fueled by the camera reaction of York, who clearly wanted the chance. Plus, we've been hearing all year how he has kicked it over 70 yards in warm-ups and I think some people just wanted to see if he could make it. Would it have been the smart football play? I don't know, doesn't seem any dumber than throwing it 30 yards into the corner of the endzone on 4th and 1 in the first quarter from the 25 with your back-up QB making his only throw of the day.

I think a FG would have been dumb, but hard to argue that point lol.

KStef calls at least one or two of these head-scratchers every game.
They drive me nuts when we do it.

When K.I.S.S. is called for, we go exotic. Teams on the margin can't afford to waste plays like these. Our windows to victory are too narrow.

Sitting behind that lunatic would get real old after about 2 minutes.

How is drinking to that level of intoxication fun? Is he enjoying the game? How is he getting home? Will he remember the game or is he just there to drink?
I’m so over alcohol and how it makes people behave. It’s gross.