The Steelers are 2.5 pt favorites. The Over/Under is 40.5
This game is somewhat unique, because as 4-Life explained, the Steelers will either be in the playoffs or finish last in the division after Sunday's game.
I think it is important for the Browns because it gives them an opportunity to get Watson more acclimated to game conditions. Winning would give the Browns a sweep over their biggest rival and they would finish w/a 4-2 record in the AFC North. Obviously, the game is more important for the Steelers because they can make the playoffs. I don't know the particulars, but they have to win.
I like the way we match-up w/them, but we know the history of this series. I'm hoping for a win this week to finish the year strong. I also just enjoy the game of football and don't get caught up in the records as some other folks might. It's also for bragging rights in our family. My daughter and I are huge Browns fans and my wife and son are huge fans of the Steelers.
Going into the offseason, I didn't think we would be playing for bragging rights and to stay out of the basement in our last game this season. Regardless of the outcome this week, the season itself was a huge disappointment. I get this year was wrote off to make changes, so next year and several after that could be better. Knowing that did not help me watch the season with any more joy.
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Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
Going into the offseason, I didn't think we would be playing for bragging rights and to stay out of the basement in our last game this season. Regardless of the outcome this week, the season itself was a huge disappointment. I get this year was wrote off to make changes, so next year and several after that could be better. Knowing that did not help me watch the season with any more joy.
For the Steelers I pretty much wrote off this year considering that they started this season at 2-6. Trubisky looked awful, Pickett wasn't doing much either with all of his interceptions. O-line looked awful too. But somehow they have gotten to 8-8, which I didn't think was remotely possible. I've been pleasantly surprised. It would be even nicer if they finished 9-8 and somehow made the playoffs. Should be an interesting close game.
This isn't Washington's pass defense the browns are going up against. I fully expect to see watson turn the ball over 2 to 3 times. Steelers defense is a different animal with watt back. They are 1-6 without him. 7-2 with him
Browns-13 Steelers -27
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" Now here you are running these dirty old streets tattoo on your neck fake gold on your teeth, got the hood here snowed but you can't fool me, we both know who you are"
Just wondering what your expectations were for the Browns season? Almost every publication predicted the Browns would go 6 and 11 or 7 and 10. Not sure what is so surprising.
I would really enjoy it if the Jets won, the Bills won … and we won
"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. DPJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Moore are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Weren't you the one who made it known that the Browns had a top 10 offense with Brissett at QB? With the way the defense played in 2021 and a top 10 offense, what should Browns fans have expected? Surely you're not trying to suggest a 4-7 record while Brissett was the QB, right? If what was a fine defense in 2021 hadn't flopped like a beached whale, things would be very different right now. Is that what you think people should have expected?
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Well of course it is. lol You do understand that expectations change as facts unfold, right? I guess you're trying to say that people's expectations shouldn't have changed when the O started firing on all cylinders? I'll ask again in an attempt to get a straight answer which I don't actually expect.
With a top 10 offense and the way the defense played in 2021, what should Browns fans have expected.
Never mind. I know when someone poses a question that you don't like it's their fault for asking it somehow in your world.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
You seem to try and act as though what someone's opinion is at the start of the season has some importance as to how facts can change that over the course of the season and that the only thing that matters is what they thought at the beginning of the season. That is patently false. Still avoiding it like the plague.
A non answer and blaming someone else for bringing up the question isn't an answer.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
You have already removed all doubt. Actual discussion about things you disagree with is a foreign concept to you. And somehow it's everyone elses fault they brought it up.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Has nothing to do w/disagreement. They were two completely different topics. You didn't like my answer about preseason predictions and expectations, so once again, you moved the goalposts.
It's the exact same topic put into a timeline. You somehow think what someone thinks preseason is an accurate depiction of what someone expects after watching teams play the game week in and week out. Nobody actually expected this offense to be as good as it was before the season. But it was good. Are you saying that shouldn't change someone's expectations? Somehow you try to present this as the only thing that matters is what you thought before and after the season. That's simply not true and you seem to manage to be able to focus on addressing me while still avoiding at address this.
A regular season is 18 weeks long. Things change over that period of time. Teams people thought would be bad turn out to be better than they thought they would be. Teams people thought would be great turn out to be not so great. So what someone thought preseason actually has no bearing on what unfolds as a season progresses. And what unfolds as the season progresses has everything to do with expectations moving forward.
And that's exactly why people are disappointed. It's not a hard concept to grasp. You didn't seem to have a problem understanding how well the offense was doing with Brissett at QB. But now somehow you have a problem with people taking that into account and pointing out how a reasonable person would change their preseason expectations based on that.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Nobody expected the offense to be this good with Brissett at QB. That's the answer to your question and why before the season began expectations were lower. Which has nothing to do with anything that transpired that changed those expectations as should have been expected with the Browns having a potent offense.
Where did I accuse you of insults, accusations or malice? You just keep making things up and still dodging.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
And those expectations change based on the circumstances. Early in the season fans saw how well the O was performing. That changed the expectations for the rest of the season. You know, the future.
I have never seen someone work so hard to avoid answering a valid question.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Agreed, D4L. Damn the draft! We aren't tanking because we have no reward for a lousy finish, no draft picks for the top. We do need to sweep the Rusties into the basement. Hope we have some offense to spare and pound them all day long. Any win any day any way over these guys is a good day's work. Unleash an Elf one more time! Go, Browns!
"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
Just wondering what your expectations were for the Browns season? Almost every publication predicted the Browns would go 6 and 11 or 7 and 10. Not sure what is so surprising.
I expected Good Baker to show up and for him and Ski to get us to the playoffs and maybe the SB.
Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. DPJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Moore are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
This isn't Washington's pass defense the browns are going up against. I fully expect to see watson turn the ball over 2 to 3 times. Steelers defense is a different animal with watt back. They are 1-6 without him. 7-2 with him
NO, NO, NO...the Browns offensive coaching staff is now facing Ground Hog Day...TJ WATT vs RT JAMES HUDSON...
We can only hope that the Browns offensive coaching staff have figured out how to make adjustments to stop Watt from repeating his 4 sack day against the Browns RT Hudson again.
Hudson needs to grow up and meet the challenge..!!
The best statement to come out of that video "Chubb - 5.0 Yards Per Carry, 1,488 yards, 12 TDs, such a waste". I could not agree more. Another wasted year in his prime and not making the playoffs.
Having a qb who can make better pre-snap reads should help a lot w/that. Watt is a great player and will be a huge factor, but I doubt Watson is as dumb as the last guy when it comes to seeing where the pressure is coming from.