DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2022 NFL Season Gameday vs Pittsburgh Browns @ Steelers Preview

The Steelers are 2.5 pt favorites.
The Over/Under is 40.5

This game is somewhat unique, because as 4-Life explained, the Steelers will either be in the playoffs or finish last in the division after Sunday's game.

I think it is important for the Browns because it gives them an opportunity to get Watson more acclimated to game conditions. Winning would give the Browns a sweep over their biggest rival and they would finish w/a 4-2 record in the AFC North. Obviously, the game is more important for the Steelers because they can make the playoffs. I don't know the particulars, but they have to win.

I like the way we match-up w/them, but we know the history of this series. I'm hoping for a win this week to finish the year strong. I also just enjoy the game of football and don't get caught up in the records as some other folks might. It's also for bragging rights in our family. My daughter and I are huge Browns fans and my wife and son are huge fans of the Steelers.

The Steelers have been squeaking by with 4th quarter come from behind wins.

Hopefully the Browns can continue the good fourth quarter play they showed last week against Washington

The Browns need to come out strong take a lead and keep it till the game ends.

I have faith that the Browns will end the Steelers play-off chance

As far as my family all

Browns fans !!

Going into the offseason, I didn't think we would be playing for bragging rights and to stay out of the basement in our last game this season. Regardless of the outcome this week, the season itself was a huge disappointment. I get this year was wrote off to make changes, so next year and several after that could be better. Knowing that did not help me watch the season with any more joy.

For the Steelers I pretty much wrote off this year considering that they started this season at 2-6. Trubisky looked awful, Pickett wasn't doing much either with all of his interceptions. O-line looked awful too. But somehow they have gotten to 8-8, which I didn't think was remotely possible. I've been pleasantly surprised. It would be even nicer if they finished 9-8 and somehow made the playoffs. Should be an interesting close game.

This isn't Washington's pass defense the browns are going up against. I fully expect to see watson turn the ball over 2 to 3 times. Steelers defense is a different animal with watt back. They are 1-6 without him. 7-2 with him

Browns-13
Steelers -27

Just wondering what your expectations were for the Browns season? Almost every publication predicted the Browns would go 6 and 11 or 7 and 10. Not sure what is so surprising.

It's still Steeler week. Putting an end to any playoff hopes they might still have would be a joy.

I would really enjoy it if the Jets won, the Bills won … and we won

Weren't you the one who made it known that the Browns had a top 10 offense with Brissett at QB? With the way the defense played in 2021 and a top 10 offense, what should Browns fans have expected? Surely you're not trying to suggest a 4-7 record while Brissett was the QB, right? If what was a fine defense in 2021 hadn't flopped like a beached whale, things would be very different right now. Is that what you think people should have expected?

Before the season? No.

Did I report factual information during the season? Yes.

However, that has no bearings on pre-season predictions/expectations. It's just yet another example of you starting a fight.

Well of course it is. lol You do understand that expectations change as facts unfold, right? I guess you're trying to say that people's expectations shouldn't have changed when the O started firing on all cylinders? I'll ask again in an attempt to get a straight answer which I don't actually expect.

With a top 10 offense and the way the defense played in 2021, what should Browns fans have expected.

Never mind. I know when someone poses a question that you don't like it's their fault for asking it somehow in your world.

See, I told you. You avoided the question like the plague. That's how you address losing. You've become all too predictable.

I answered it. You just didn't like the answer so you moved the goal posts. What's new?

You seem to try and act as though what someone's opinion is at the start of the season has some importance as to how facts can change that over the course of the season and that the only thing that matters is what they thought at the beginning of the season. That is patently false. Still avoiding it like the plague.

A non answer and blaming someone else for bringing up the question isn't an answer.

The more you talk.......the more you remove doubt.

You have already removed all doubt. Actual discussion about things you disagree with is a foreign concept to you. And somehow it's everyone elses fault they brought it up.

Has nothing to do w/disagreement. They were two completely different topics. You didn't like my answer about preseason predictions and expectations, so once again, you moved the goalposts.

It's the exact same topic put into a timeline. You somehow think what someone thinks preseason is an accurate depiction of what someone expects after watching teams play the game week in and week out. Nobody actually expected this offense to be as good as it was before the season. But it was good. Are you saying that shouldn't change someone's expectations? Somehow you try to present this as the only thing that matters is what you thought before and after the season. That's simply not true and you seem to manage to be able to focus on addressing me while still avoiding at address this.

A regular season is 18 weeks long. Things change over that period of time. Teams people thought would be bad turn out to be better than they thought they would be. Teams people thought would be great turn out to be not so great. So what someone thought preseason actually has no bearing on what unfolds as a season progresses. And what unfolds as the season progresses has everything to do with expectations moving forward.

And that's exactly why people are disappointed. It's not a hard concept to grasp. You didn't seem to have a problem understanding how well the offense was doing with Brissett at QB. But now somehow you have a problem with people taking that into account and pointing out how a reasonable person would change their preseason expectations based on that.

A problem? I asked a legitimate question. There were no accusations. No insults. No sense of malice.

Nobody expected the offense to be this good with Brissett at QB. That's the answer to your question and why before the season began expectations were lower. Which has nothing to do with anything that transpired that changed those expectations as should have been expected with the Browns having a potent offense.

Where did I accuse you of insults, accusations or malice? You just keep making things up and still dodging.

Here, perhaps this will help you understand what "expectations" are:

ex·pec·ta·tion
/ˌekˌspekˈtāSH(ə)n/

noun
plural noun: expectations

a strong belief that something will happen or be the case in the future.
"reality had not lived up to expectations"



a belief that someone will or should achieve something.
"students had high expectations for their future"

You said I had a "problem" w/what he said. I didn't have a "problem" at all.

Get your last word in, Larry. Once again, instead of talking football, we are left feeding your delicate ego.

And those expectations change based on the circumstances. Early in the season fans saw how well the O was performing. That changed the expectations for the rest of the season. You know, the future.

I have never seen someone work so hard to avoid answering a valid question.

You're the one avoiding answering a football question here. Of course you are blaming someone else for it.

j/c

I want the Browns to win.

I now return you to the vers/pit thread.

A preview from a neutral party.

Agreed, D4L. Damn the draft! We aren't tanking because we have no reward for a lousy finish, no draft picks for the top. We do need to sweep the Rusties into the basement. Hope we have some offense to spare and pound them all day long. Any win any day any way over these guys is a good day's work. Unleash an Elf one more time! Go, Browns!

The most important thing for this game is Watson playing well against a good defense.

It would be nice if the team doesn't roll over either.

I expected Good Baker to show up and for him and Ski to get us to the playoffs and maybe the SB.

It's Jan 6th 2023 and it's 6:44 am. Guess what?


PITTSBURGH STILL SUCKS.

X2

Like death and taxes ... there is at least one other thing you can count on.

2 and 1/2... Clowney will be missing.

LOL........true.

I am not sure if they officially ruled him out on Sunday. They probably will if they haven't already.

What the heck? I think I'm going to throw up!

NO, NO, NO...the Browns offensive coaching staff is now facing Ground Hog Day...TJ WATT vs RT JAMES HUDSON...

We can only hope that the Browns offensive coaching staff have figured out how to make adjustments to stop Watt from repeating his 4 sack day against the Browns RT Hudson again.

Hudson needs to grow up and meet the challenge..!!

The best statement to come out of that video "Chubb - 5.0 Yards Per Carry, 1,488 yards, 12 TDs, such a waste". I could not agree more. Another wasted year in his prime and not making the playoffs.

Having a qb who can make better pre-snap reads should help a lot w/that. Watt is a great player and will be a huge factor, but I doubt Watson is as dumb as the last guy when it comes to seeing where the pressure is coming from.