DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns Hire Jim Schwartz as DC.

I like it. Delpit is going to like it.

I also like that he is a former HC that Stefanski can bounce ideas/thoughts off of.

Was hoping for him or Flores. Good job … should be an improvement

Awesome now we hear about for the next 6 months
From Mary Kay Cabot and Nathan Zegura how great
The Browns defense will be in 2023 cause of this hire
And how many Pro Bowlers it will produce

This is probably a good hire. Like Milk said, Schwartz has HC experience and had success as DC. He is older and retired after Pederson was fired in Philly. I do think his scheme is the best fit for our current defensive roster. I understand that nickel and dime packages are run a lot more than they used to be, but you still play base defense.

Agreed. Like a few others I was hoping for Schwartz or Flores. There was talk about Flores getting interest as a potential HC so maybe that was a consideration? Or maybe it was Schwartz no matter what.

Onward.

That’s my only knock on Zegura. He’s such a cheerleader and mouth of the FO that it’s tough to believe him

the guy I hoped for.

1. Proven, good D.

2. D line is a big priority with him.

3. Former head coach so he can assist Stefanski and also just run the defensive side of the ball. If the worst happens and Stefanski is fired mid season next year, we have a replacement on staff and don't have to name Priefer or somebody as interim.

I also feel he has had his head coach gig and isn't on any short lists for a HC job, so the chances are good he will remain in the position for a while. I really didn't want anybody on the NFL fast track to a head coaching job and lose them in a year.

Good hire. I think he was the right guy for this team on the cusp. If we were in a rebuild and starting over, I would have preferred Flores to develop his defense and culture.

Considering his record as HC in Detroit

I prefer he doesn't bounce ideas and thoughts off to Stefanski

LOL !

Hopefully this hire works out and improves the Defense

I was listening to Mary Kay at nauseum In July
Go blah blah blah Jacob Phillips is really going to be
Elite this year blah blah blah Grant Delphit will be a top 5 S
Because this the 3rd year they have in Joe Woods system.
Results please not endless homerism.

Same here - with the addition that, of all the guys I read about (and I am not claiming to have read extensively) - Schwartz was the guy who I read somewhat consistently about how he planned for and schemed for specific opponents and neutralized what they did well.

I love this hire. Hope it pans out.

* Edit - is this confirmed or simply being reported?

I know you were on the Schwartz train as well.

You know how that works...it's being reported, but not official until the browns release the news.

Jake Trotter
ESPN Staff Writer

BEREA, Ohio -- The Cleveland Browns have hired Jim Schwartz to be their defensive coordinator.

If Jake Trotter says it's true...

Analytics!

j/c...

Glad the "search" is over and we've chosen our guy. When I heard we added Dennard Wilson to the list, I was worried things were going south and these guys were passing on us.

I had entered a relationship with Brian Flores as my man-crush-candidate, but I'm good with Schwartz. I hope he takes this defense by the reins and makes these dudes accountable. He's got more than enough experience in dealing with players and egos at all levels, so that has to be a huge plus.

Please, please, PLEASE do something to make QBs uncomfortable and our defense nastier.


It will be nice to have a defense not seemingly called by an algorithm. I honestly felt we could have plugged in a MS Surface Pro on the sideline and had the same or better results in 2022.

No one made you. You dont have to listen

Cant wait to see who shines that we are not expecting.

Never underestimate the power of the Schwartz

NERD!!!

exactly who I wanted. Great signing.. I didn't want to go through another experimental DC hire

Another point to add to that. I think both Berry and Stefanski both know they won't be around past next year if we have another dud season. I don't think either of them wanted to put the D in experimental hands either.

I won't say playoffs or bust, but it's nearly that. It will take something like winning 10-11 games and somehow not get in to the playoffs.

And may it be with us.

But that's often what it all boils down to. We the public often see a list of candidates. It's easy to see when looking at that list who the experienced, best qualified and most sought after people are on that list.

In the meantime while people are waiting for the hire to be announced, we watch the media bolster and puff up how great those lesser qualified candidates are. The fan base gets all worked up and buy into why these lesser candidates would be a fine option. So in the event the Browns have to settle for someone who really wasn't their first or second choice the fan base will still be pacified.

In this case that is not the situation. They landed a highly qualified candidate. A very experienced man with a track record of having a good defense. Someone who actually helped win a SB at the exact same position he was hired for here. He runs a 4-3 base which should make the players fit better and the transition easier with less roster turnover.

IMO they got the best guy on the list for the job. A guy who was one of the two best qualified guys on their list and considering he runs the 4-3, the best possible outcome. A great job done and accomplishment for Haslam and this FO.

I will.. With all that has been done and spent, anything less than playoffs and maybe even deep in playoffs will be a bust.

Agreed. And we've had a bird's eye view to that in Cleveland... over and over again.

I was bracing myself incase it happened again, because the usual nightmare scenario (melodramatic, I know) was playing out just the way you said.

I understand. Like i said, i won't be all up in arms if we win 11 and somehow don't get in.

Okay, let's say they don't make the playoffs. What are you going to do about it? Buy the team and fire everyone? Stop rooting for the team? Or whine and cry about it? No one is making any one of us root for the team. We all have the right to stop rooting for them. This isn't slavery. It's free will. Fact is that none of us have the authority to make demands.

God help anyone who has high expectations.

It seems your train of thought has derailed

It was a serious question. What can any of actually do if the team does not meet our expectations? I've been disgusted w/the team in the past. I contemplated not rooting for them. However, I understood I didn't have one ounce of power on what the team does or doesn't do. Issuing demanding proclamations about what needs to happen are pretty much meaningless.

j/c...



Cody Suek
@CodySuek
#Browns Jim Schwartz defensive EPA/play, DVOA ranks over the past five seasons:

2018 Eagles (DC)- 17th/15th
2019 Eagles (DC)- 11th/12th
2020 Eagles (DC)- 11th/15th
2021 Titans (Sr. Defensive Assistant)- 10th/12th
2022 Titans (Sr. Defensive Assistant)- 22nd/19th

https://twitter.com/CodySuek/status/1615389436392374288

Yeah so...

Good, we need more man coverage

Personally I think Ward, Newsome and Greedy (if he returns) are well suited to Man coverage. Not sure if PFF breaks down CB grades into man/zone rankings etc? But that'd be interesting to see if they did.

Not sure how I feel about this.

I amm OK with Schwartz. I probably would have gone with Flores, or maybe the guy from Seattle .... but Schwartz is OK.